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AF To Upgrade Its CDG-GIG With A B744  
User currently offlineFLYSSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7401 posts, RR: 57
Posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3319 times:

To face the increasing demand on its route CDG-GIG, Air France has announced that its DAILY nonstop CDG-GIG will be operated by a B747-400 during the next winter season starting October 31st 2004.

Until 5 years ago, the daily flight was operating CDG-GRU-GIG. Then the two Brazilian destinations were separated, and CDG-GRU remained daily while CDG-GIG was operated 3 x weekly.
The frequency on CDG-GIG became daily with an A332 two years ago.
This summer both CDG-GRU and CDG-GIG are operated nonstop by a B777-200ER.

Next winter, CDG-GRU will remain operated by the B772, so the offer in seats will be superior on the CDG-GIG flight. This flight will also change its schedule and become a night flight from CDG (just like the CDG-GRU) :

CDG 11:15 PM ---> GIG 06:50 AM next day. AF442 - B744 - DAILY -

GIG 03:55 PM ---> CDG 06:30 AM next day. AF441 - B744 - DAILY -




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User currently offlineMindscape From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 315 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 3269 times:

Hi FLYSSC,

Will it be operated by a brand new 744 in AF's fleet or will it be taken from another AF's route whose traffic passengers has dicreased ?


User currently offlineFLYSSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7401 posts, RR: 57
Reply 2, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 3137 times:

Mindscape,

It's hard to say : AF is going to introduce the brand new B777-300ER in its fleet in may. 5 a/c of that type are due to be delivered by the end of this year. As this new plane will replace the B744 on its routes, particularly CDG-NRT, some B744 will be available for new markets at next the winter season. Moreover, another brand new B744 has just been delivered to AF 5 days ago (F-GITJ). It's the 15th and last B744 all PAX for AF.


User currently offlineMindscape From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 315 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 3089 times:

Thanks a lot !
By the way, do you know why AF has chosen to privilege the B777 than the other type of aircraft ? I have read that it is thanks to the cargo capacity of the B777 in a pax configuration that increase revenues in a same route. Is that correct ?


User currently offlineFLYSSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7401 posts, RR: 57
Reply 4, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 3081 times:

The Cargo activity is very important for AF, very lucrative and profitable. AF is the 4th largest Cargo operator in the world (appart Cargo airlines of course) and the B777 offers a better cargo capacity compared to the A340.

The B777 is a money maker and a great a/c for AF. I don't say that the A340 is a bad a/c, but for AF's operations, the B777 is better. Moreover, due to the geographical situation of CDG, AF is not limited by the ETOPS rules on any of its long-haul routes, so a reliable twin engines like the B777 is perfect.

By the way, I just learned that AF plans also to upgrade its daily CDG-DEL flight with a B744 next winter. The flight is presently operated by an A340.


User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 57
Reply 5, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3027 times:

Over the next year or so, we shall see Air France reassign the aircraft in its long-haul fleet - another 744 was just delivered, the A332s are in service and the 773s enter the fleet shortly. I think that the 773s will take over some premium high capacity routes for AF, like Tokyo, New York and other business destinations. This will free up some 744s to run other high density routes as pointed out in this post......also look for the 744s to take over some of AF's leisure routes, ie to the Caribbean, which will allow some of the older 743s to be retired in a few years time.

I see the following for AF:

773 - premium long haul business routes
772 - long haul services
744 - high density services + selected long haul
343 - thinner long haul services
332 - medium range services + low capacity long haul services

This will give AF the ability to match aircraft with route demand - and also help in markets where there are several frequencies per day.


User currently offlineMindscape From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 315 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2929 times:

Well, means that the AF's Airbus fleet will dicrease, in particularly the 343 ? Presently if I am right AF has almost the same number of 343 and 777 aircrafts.


User currently offlineFLYSSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7401 posts, RR: 57
Reply 7, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2893 times:

Air France currently operates a fleet of 25 B777-200ER, 22 A340-300, and 14 A330-200.
16 B777-300ER are on order and the 5 first a/c are to be delivered by the end of this year.


User currently offlineASTROJET707 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 299 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2817 times:

FLYSCC,

You are very up to date on AF planes, routes and future plans!!!!!!!


ASTROJET707


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