B747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2820 times:
In a surprisingly logical move on Tuesday, the Indian government's Ministry of Civil Aviation finally approved a long pending proposal that permits both Air India and Indian Airlines to lease in aircraft types as per their commercial requirements rather than requiring them to receive ministry approval to add a new aircraft type as is the current system.
This clears the way for Air India to proceed with its proposed acquisition of Airbus 340-300s and Boeing 737-800s on a lease-in basis while the various government bureaucracies continue to process the approval for purchase of the aircraft.
The Air India board is next expected to meet in early May and will consider floating tenders for new aircraft types at that time.
ConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 1, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2763 times:
Hear Boeing's been whispering sweet nothings in AI's ear... any chance they'll overturn the decision on A340s (be nice if they went for A32x instead as well... but one can only hope )
Skyguy From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 461 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2726 times:
ConcordeBoy
...not unless they are prepared to pay some serious and significant bribes to corrupt and venal politicians in the Civil Aviation Ministry and members of Air India's board. Thats the only way things get done there.
"Those who talk, do not know, and those who know, do not talk."
AvioGuy From India, joined Jan 2001, 99 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2708 times:
I still cant see why cant Air India buy the new aircrafts? I dont think finance will be much of a problem, but the politics and beraucracy has always been a major hurdle. Air India is trying to buy new aircrafts for the past decade i think.
InitRef From India, joined Nov 2000, 118 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2651 times:
...not unless they are prepared to pay some serious and significant bribes to corrupt and venal politicians in the Civil Aviation Ministry and members of Air India's board. Thats the only way things get done there.
and what makes you think they are not prepared to, or did not try to, pay bribes?
Aah yes, because American corporations cannot pay bribes unlike French companies...
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But there is nothing stopping Boeing from paying "marketing support fees" to consultants and local agents, who use the money to pay bribes....just as Boeing, Airbus, Coca Cola etc have done in India for YEARS...
Scorpio From Belgium, joined Oct 2001, 4934 posts, RR: 46 Reply 5, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2541 times:
...not unless they are prepared to pay some serious and significant bribes to corrupt and venal politicians in the Civil Aviation Ministry and members of Air India's board. Thats the only way things get done there.
Following your own logic, Boeing must be prepared to pay bribes. How would they have gotten the 737-800 orders otherwise, as, per your logic, "Thats the only way things get done there."?
Horus From Egypt, joined Feb 2004, 5230 posts, RR: 62 Reply 7, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 2426 times:
Boeing once said (pre 9/11) that if Air India got 50 B744s tomorrow, 'it would only be a drop in their ocean of capacity'. Does this mean the A380 may be ordered? Isn't there some Indian aerospace firm that is building a part of the super jumbo?
AirbusfanYYZ From Canada, joined Oct 2002, 1406 posts, RR: 29 Reply 8, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2389 times:
Horus,
That Boeing quote was from an Airways magazine blurb that had an amazing looking B772 in AI livery.
The way things move in India, the A380 may be out of production by the time AI actually signs an order.
Indianguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 10, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2144 times:
IC is also leasing in 7 A319's and 4 A320's which will join the fleet in time for the winter schedule. The A319's are for subsidiary Alliance Air (CD) whose 732's are disintegrating.
Vimanav From India, joined Jul 2003, 1470 posts, RR: 19 Reply 11, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2091 times:
IC is also leasing in 7 A319's and 4 A320's which will join the fleet in time for the winter schedule. The A319's are for subsidiary Alliance Air (CD) whose 732's are disintegrating.
Oh come on Roy... those 732s are old yes but definitely not falling to bits as you make it sound. Believe me there are far worse aircraft flying around in the US with leading airlines.
Make no mistake, its time these planes are replaced but these 732s have rendered yeoman service to Indian Airlines and later to Alliance and deserve a better level of respect from us. Plus if you go thru the safety records of IC, you will see that all its 737 crashes were a result of pilot error or other human factors. The aircraft or maintenance was never to blame for any of them.
rgds//Vimanav
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