Bartond From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 792 posts, RR: 2 Posted (11 years 6 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 5074 times:
Has Air France talked any more about opening up another US gateway? Aren't they considering either DTW or SEA as their next gateway? DTW would seem like a good choice with the Northwest connections but SEA would have to be mostly O&D. Unless AF is just thinking that the Seattle area could use another nonstop to Europe in general. I don't see how this service would hold up but if someone would enlighten me that would be great.
Let's hear about these other airports cuz I don't think AF is coming back to DFW for a long time...
JayDavis From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 2000 posts, RR: 14
Reply 5, posted (11 years 6 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 4749 times:
There is a large article today in the Dallas Morning News about Low Cost Carriers expanding their operations at DFW. At the very end of the article it talks about how DFW Airport is trying to get Air France to re-introduce service to DFW. Don't know if it will happen but DFW is at least trying to get them back into our airport. Maybe they won't come until the new International Terminal is open in 2005???
Leneld From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 606 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (11 years 6 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 4694 times:
That really interesting that you motioned Seattle, because last I heard Air France was not interested in servicing the Northwest region of the US. When the Port of Portland was in the early stages of seeking European flights to PDX this is what was stated by a representative of Air France in our local paper. Who know.. Maybe a year later their views have changed...
Bartond From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 792 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (11 years 6 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 4591 times:
COEWR, I think Concky might be able to clarify this, but I think the reason(s) for AF leaving FW / KDFW), USA - Texas">DFW were:
- AF actually started the route in May of '01....go figure what happened after the events of that autumn
- I believe AF lost some contracts with companies here in the D/FW metroplex
- With the burst of telecom, North Dallas' telecom corridor went to hell, and one of the biggest losers was Alcatel, obviously a French telecom giant, who cut thousands and thousands of jobs and closed a plant in Plano (suburb north of Dallas
- AA, on news of AF coming to FW / KDFW), USA - Texas">DFW, of course upgraded their service to either 10x weekly or double daily 772s (can't remember) on their FW / KDFW), USA - Texas">DFW-CDG runs...bastards.
- Delta began to contract their services from FW / KDFW), USA - Texas">DFW and took most all decent sized aircraft off of FW / KDFW), USA - Texas">DFW routes, thus reducing DL connections for AF travelers
So you've heard of the snowball effect...? Now all of those events didn't happen in chronological order, but at one point they all came about so AF really couldn't win. I've read about 10 articles in the past few years that interview various people within the D/FW airport organization and they all say that getting AF back is their main project as far as international carriers go. However, it doesn't seem like they have any interest in coming back here any time soon. Sucks.
Funniest thing, and I've mentioned this before many times, is that capacity on the FW / KDFW), USA - Texas">DFW-CDG route went from AF daily A343 + AA 2x daily 772 down to the current single daily 763 with AA. Now THAT'S a lot of seats that were lost.