BA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11135 posts, RR: 61 Reply 2, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1390 times:
Fantastic. They will be a nice addition to Cargolux's 3x weekly service from Luxembourg.
I hope they do well. I know economic ties between Malaysia and Lebanon have grown quite a bit.
BA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11135 posts, RR: 61 Reply 3, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1361 times:
By the way, they are also planning to start Beijing.
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BA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11135 posts, RR: 61 Reply 4, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1329 times:
A little off topic, but I noticed that MASkargo's 747-200Fs have windows. Is there any reason for this?
Most 747 freighters don't have windows.
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Mas777 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 1999, 2916 posts, RR: 6 Reply 5, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1291 times:
Some of MASKargo 747F have windows as they are converted B747-236Bs that the airline originally operated as passenger aircraft. They were bought directly from Boeing after British Airways cancelled their order hence the -236B model.
BA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11135 posts, RR: 61 Reply 6, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1239 times:
Thanks for the info Mas777.
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BA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11135 posts, RR: 61 Reply 7, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1200 times:
Could someone tell me why MASkargo only owns 2 747-200s and is wet-leasing 6 747-200s from Air Atlanta?
I find it strange that a cargo airline owned by a major Asian carrier is relying on wet-leasting most of its fleet from another aircraft. The wet-leased 747-200s are also ina mostly white paint scheme.
Is there some reason preventing them from acquiring their own aircraft? I think it would be a wise idea if MASkargo bought 747-400Fs to replace its wet-leased 747-200s and become self-reliant.
I also read that they are expanding the facilities in Kuala Lumpur, so it would make sense to operate their own fleet.
Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
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Joule From Malaysia, joined Dec 2003, 159 posts, RR: 4 Reply 8, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1162 times:
The 2 747-200s owned by MH were orginally full pax versions from delivery in 1982 up to 1995-96 when they were converted to freighters. MAS bought them from BA as part of UK-Malaysia economic trade (in order to get more landing rights to LHR, i.e. buy aircraft with RR engines).
It is not uncommon for major airlines to lease aircraft (whether pax or freighter) and in the case of MASkargo, it is relatively cheaper to lease these older planes than to buy new 747-400Fs. So costs is a major factor here.
MASkargo did approach MAS some time back to ask that MAS' outstanding order for pax 747-400s be converted to -400F but was unsuccessful. MAS was also in deep financial trouble at the time and was focused on turning the company around rather than spend money on aircraft.
At this time there are no plans to buy 747-400 freighters for MASkargo.
BA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11135 posts, RR: 61 Reply 12, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1129 times:
Thanks for the information
Joule,
My concern is the fact that 6 of the 8 aircraft are wet-leases. This means, the carrier that owns the aircraft provides its own crew, own maintenance, etc. Often times, airlines wet-lease planes only for short-term purposes until they are able either to purchase aircraft or dry-lease.
Wet-leasing gets very expensive overtime. It is really not much different from chartering aircraft.
This is why I brought the issue up. MASkargo doesn't need to get 747-400Fs. They could buy OR dry-lease some 747-200Fs and/or 747-200SFs (converted freighters).
In the long run this is much cheaper than having to wet-lease aircraft for this long.
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