Mindscape From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 314 posts, RR: 0 Posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3371 times:
Hi all,
I am a new member and of course I am sure my topics have already been discussed before and sorry for that.
I am not gonna dare to put the topic on B777 vs A340, but I would like to know why the A330 is said a great a/c in comparison with the A340 ?
I thought that they were very similar, while the A340 is targeted for long haul, the A330 is more suitable for medium haul... That is correct for the A340-500 and the A330-200, but what about the A340-300 and A330-300 ? Why some airliners such as NWA/CX have chosen the A330-300 while some others the A340-300 such as Swiss/LH.
Thanks for your opinion on this !
Brons2 From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 2969 posts, RR: 5 Reply 3, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3328 times:
Well...the A333 will actually climb off the runway for one thing
Firings, if well done, are good for employee morale.
Horus From Egypt, joined Feb 2004, 5230 posts, RR: 62 Reply 4, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3304 times:
Also AC operate A333s and A343s.
In general CX use their A333s on regional trunk routes, and their A343s on thin-long-haul flights. AC initially bought their A333s for European services and A343s for Asian services, but currently both types are used on both markets.
I think the A343 looks better that the A333, but the A332 is better looking than the A342.
Spike From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 1170 posts, RR: 6 Reply 5, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3195 times:
CX use their A340s and A330s on short, medium and long haul routes. I always feel cheated when a A330 is put on a 5 hour plus route, rather than a A340 or 777.
As for A vs. B, the A340-600 knocks the 777-300 for six!
Aguilo From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 243 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 2826 times:
The A330 and the A340 are the same exact fuselage, in varying lengths. The only difference is the number of engines. A340 is marketted for those airlines that want to have 4 engines (long and ultra long haul) where the route is so long that you don't want to have to be worrying about ETOPS requirements (Europe or US to Africa for example)etc. The A330 is meant for medium to long haul routes where the distances are not so great that you need to worry about "only" having 2 engines (between US and Europe for instance)
ConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 8, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2774 times:
where the route is so long that you don't want to have to be worrying about ETOPS requirements (Europe or US to Africa for example)etc. The A330 is meant for medium to long haul routes where the distances are not so great that you need to worry about "only" having 2 engines (between US and Europe for instance)
Hate to break this to you... but the overwhelming majority of the longest scheduled flights currently being operated are typically well within ETOPS120... let alone 180/207 or anything worth "worrying" about
So, as mentioned above, the A330 is suited also for long haul (Europe to west-coast USA e.g.), and many airlines use it for long hauls (LH, NW, CX, etc).
I think the reason why it's often used for medium routes is the high amount of passengers it carries and the low costs/seat/mile on those routes in comparison to other aircraft. Many charter airlines use the A330 on such routes.
Btw, LH also uses the A343 on medium routes to the middle east for example.
ETOPS, as already said, is probably a huge factor for airlines to use "4 engines 4 long haul", but then, the 772 flies on ultra long hauls...
Maybe also the fact that 2 engines are cheaper in maintenance than 4 engines may convince airlines to use the A330 instead of the A340...
Solnabo From Sweden, joined Jan 2008, 786 posts, RR: 2 Reply 12, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2676 times:
A vs A! Great topic
All Buses are topmodern, 21st century a/c. I can go on forever....*lol*
Dont wanna p-off some people though!
The only Bus I dont like is 318! Why buy it when there is RJ´s like Bombardier/
Embraer 170??
**Glad Påsk**
Roberta From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 13, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 2606 times:
As I so love to mention each time afforded the opportunity---
No A342 in commercial service has anywhere near this amount of range.
well as i love to point out if anyoe did want an A340-8000, airbus would build it, but as the plane is so small economics arent great unlike the on the A345
Hate to break this to you... but the overwhelming majority of the longest scheduled flights currently being operated are typically well within ETOPS120... let alone 180/207 or anything worth "worrying" about
True, only JNB-PER operated by SAA A342s is the only regular one i can think of, but as we all know some airlines such as Iberia and Virgin have a policy of 4 engines for long range, or at least they claim they do.
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