747srule From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 419 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1723 times:
Hey KZBA any more info on this new BA flight? Type, time, frequency?
747srule From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 419 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1663 times:
I can tell you BA 283,269 VS 7,23 UA 935,AA 137, Air New Zealand 1 are the flights I am aware of.
AirxLiban From Lebanon, joined Oct 2003, 4491 posts, RR: 55 Reply 8, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1650 times:
BA twice daily all year round
VS twice daily in the summer i'm not sure but in the off season is it 1 daily?
AA UA NZ each have...what 1 i believe.
so that is yeah around 7 a day unless we have forgotten someone.
let's not forget that back in the early 90s, BA had 2 dailies as well as a 767 to Manchester. BCal had that DC-10 coming in from San Diego and continuing to Gatwick. Perhaps there were 2 744 1 763 and a 1 DC-10 at LAX per day at Los Angeles at one point.
I've been flying LHR-LAX and back for the last 15 years with BA and i've never seen an empty plane. In the early days they flew the Classics but ever since what the early 90s its been the 744, the last time i flew a 742 on that route was circa 1993 or 1994.
One reason I can think of is that some people continue to Oz and New Zealand.
if i'm not mistaken there are lots of brits in orange county and san diego.
MAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 31117 posts, RR: 74 Reply 9, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1612 times:
London-Los Angeles is an airline's "perfect" market. Not only is there a huge amount of high-paying premium business travelers, but a plethora of tourists. Planes go out full in all four cabins, with a just right porportion of business/leisure travelers. Also, the London-Los Angeles market has strong year-round demand. Similar case with the San Francisco-London and Miami-London markets.
BA001Concorde From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 94 posts, RR: 6 Reply 11, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1511 times:
747srule:Hey KZBA any more info on this new BA flight? Type, time, frequency?
BA279 / BA278 will operate LHR-LAX / LAX-LHR on Mon, Wed, & Sat via a B-747-400.
Laxintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 22028 posts, RR: 51 Reply 12, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1460 times:
London - Los Angeles is the 3rd largest city pair between the UK and US. The market while having a summer peak is generally quite a good one allowing for high year around load factors. For the summer of 2004 there will actually be 9 flights between the cities, as AA and BA will be adding a 2nd and 3rd flight respectively.
For the record and those curious here are the top 10 route pairs between the UK and US for 2003 in terms of passengers flown.
BN747 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5287 posts, RR: 52 Reply 13, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 1408 times:
AA now has (2) 777s daily to LHR.
UA 777 (1 daily)
BA 744 (2 daily-3 flts on We/Fr/Su?)
VS 744/A340 2-daily (1 each)
NZ 744 1-daily
At least 8 dailies and on some days 9 flts.
BN747
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AirxLiban From Lebanon, joined Oct 2003, 4491 posts, RR: 55 Reply 15, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1351 times:
BN747, i heard that VS were only operating a once daily in the off season, is this true? I heard that it was going to be A343 only (which i thought was weird) but then on the occasions when i went to LAX i saw their 744 there and not the A340...do you have any idea what I'm talking about???
Just to note, that total LON-MIA and LON-EWR traffic is slightly higher (quite significantly higher in the case of EWR-LGW), because CO flies LGW-EWR and, through most of 2003, VS flew LGW-MIA (which is now LHR-MIA).
BCALdavid From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 74 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1245 times:
I've flown LHR - LAX many times on business - all premium cabins have always been virtually full. I noticed (in economy) my BA flights had a lot of Europeans connecting at LHR, especially Italians and Scandinavians. VS flights, economy seemed mostly UK tourists while AA mostly Americans. I could never understand why AA had only one flight each day, the second summer flight will be very welcome!
BN747 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5287 posts, RR: 52 Reply 22, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1011 times:
I sure do, AirLiban...VS does cut back to a single dailt flight in the off season, however it is operated by a 744. The A340 is what gets pulled. We've gotten the strange VS Gatwick-based 744 G-VROY here once...now I don't know how that happened. This ships are usually deployed to the carribean, TPA/MCO and LAS.
BN747
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Laxintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 22028 posts, RR: 51 Reply 23, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 972 times:
Ok for those that would like city pair traffic stats versus specific route stats here are the 2003 numbers.
1.London-New York 3.67mil
2.London-Chicago 1.36mil
3.London-Los Angeles 1.18mil
4.London-Washington 1.12mil
5.London-Orlando 1.05mil
6.London-San Francisco .97mil
7.London-Boston .92mil
8.London-Miami .86mil
9.London-Atlanta .49mil
10.London-Houston .45mil
The top non London UK-US route is Manchester-Orlando with .43mil passengers in 2003.
And for our Canadian friends the top UK-Canada routes are
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