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Heading To LAX, Midwest Express Or AirTran?  
User currently offlineWarszawa From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 727 posts, RR: 6
Posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 3903 times:

Hi All,

I need some help choosing an airline for someone i know. They are going to LAX around April 30th ( Plus - Minus a couple days ).

They're leaving FNT, Flint Bishop Airport in Michigan. They only want to fly out of there ( Not DTW ).

And...its a One Way ticket, they arnt coming back, lol.

Here are the cheapest options:

Midwest Express = FNT-MKE, Arrive MKE 8:25am, Depart MKE 8:50am for flight to LAX = $127.00

AirTran = FNT-ATL, Arrive ATL like 5:25pm or so, depart ATL 7:20pm ( Something like that )...Arrive LAX like 10:40pm, = $132.00

Now...Just a note, the person that is flying, is *NOT* Enthusiastic about flying, so...LOL, with that being said, they dont like to fly all over the place like most of us aviation guru's, they just like to get the flying done and over with.

My question is... Which airline would you choose for the ease of a 0% aviation knowledgeable person who doesnt like to deal with hassles or anything?

I was thinking the following:

Midwest Express...Because:

1. Milwaukee is a smaller airport, less traffic, should be easy to get around, Plus MX Connection & MX gates are very close to eachother
2. Get to LAX around Noon instead of late night
3. Midwest Express...Nobody i know has ever flown them, why not give them a shot? I think they'll be pretty good?
4. No chance of delays probably...Not really a busy airport, airline pretty good on time im assuming.
5. Plane wont be fully loaded im guessing, according to seat maps it looks about 70% loaded right now, unlike airtran which will probably be 100% loaded.

AirTran...Because:

1. Get to leave FNT later, means you wont have to wake up early in the morning
2. More flexibility
3. More layover time at layover airport, no rushing
4. Nobody in my family has ever flown airtran, give them a try?

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Which one would you guys recommend or choose & for what reasons? Is 25 minute layover time enough at Milwaukee MKE airport?

Thanks for any replies ahead of time!


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User currently offlineWedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5925 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 3854 times:
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I would go with Midwest Airlines over Air Tran because they are a full-service airline and it's more direct to connect through MKE than ATL. If the LAX service is through their Premium airline, then there's only 2x2 seating with leather seats (I believe). Air Tran's A320's are pretty crammed. However, their 717's aren't too bad.

User currently offlineElwood64151 From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 2477 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 3840 times:

I would recommend Midwest. It's a more direct routing (FNT-MKE-LAX on YX compared to FNT-ATL-LAX on FL), and also for the reasons you mentioned above.

I wouldn't worry so much about how full the flight is. If they bump you, they still have to send you on your way somehow, though it may simply be a later flight of their own.

The only concern your friend might have is the smaller aircraft size out of FNT on YX (Beech 1900D - 19 seat propliner - on all flights out of FNT). On FL, your friend will fly a 717 and an A320 respectively (until August, when 737s will have replaced all A320s), but again, that will be through ATL.

25 minutes isn't a lot of time at any airport, but gate 52 is close to all the YX mainline gates, so as long as the flight is on time, no problems (isn't that always the issue?).

MKE is a very nice airport. It's not terribly big and it's easy to find your way around. YX is all in concourse D, so not exiting security or changing concourses. With AirTran at ATL, there is the possibility of changing concourses.

For more info on MKE, try http://www.mitchellairport.com.

Fly safe. Fly often!



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User currently offlineAa757first From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3350 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 3839 times:

Well I haven't flown either of them (maybe Midwest soon).


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Now, Midwest has downgraded LAX to Saver Service (3x2) but they still offer more legroom than AirTran. If you fly into Orange County, its still Signature Service. I know some people use Orange County as an alternative to LAX, so mention that option to your friend. Personally , I would feel unsafe on AirTran after some of their fires and crashes, but that is my personal thought.

AAndrew


User currently offlinePhatfarmlines From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 1359 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 3816 times:

Personally , I would feel unsafe on AirTran after some of their fires and crashes, but that is my personal thought.

It should also be noted YX has also had a fatal accident early in its infancy. I think both carriers are the same as far as safety is concerned. This decision factor is irrelevant.


User currently offline744BFA From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 38 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 3808 times:

I would feel unsafe on AirTran after some of their fires and crashes, but that is my personal thought.

I know it is your personal thought, but when was FL's last crash and fire? As I recall FL's 717's are newer than XY's MD-80s and DC-9s.

I have flown FL MCO-ATL-MCO and overall they are a good airline, average biz class, and safe airline. I recommend FL.

744BFA


User currently offlineCopaair737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 3804 times:

I would take YX, because if your friend isn't into aviation, and they want to just get it done and over with, the duration looked less than the FL flight. Also, I hear FL's A320s are like flying on cattle cars, very cramped. Also, it looks cheaper.

-Copa


User currently offlineAa757first From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3350 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 3794 times:

744BFA,

Midwest has been operating 717s for awhile. The DC-9s are almost gone. Plus, FL has had two incidents on the 717s: a total electrical failure in Atlanta and smoke in the cockpit in Orlando. Plus there was that BOS to PHL 717 that caught fire a few months ago.

http://www.findarticles.com/cf_dls/m0CWU/2003_Oct_2/108445803/p1/article.jhtml

AAndrew


User currently offlineElwood64151 From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 2477 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 3772 times:

I would go with Midwest Airlines over Air Tran because they are a full-service airline

Actually, MKE-LAX is operated by the SaverService, YX's traditional low-cost operation started after the 9/11 turndown. It's five-abreast seating just like FL.

If you fly into Orange County, its still Signature Service.

That's true, but then they have to change planes again at MCI.

As I recall FL's 717's are newer than XY's MD-80s and DC-9s.

Actually, YX has a number of 717s, as well. Many of their DC-9s are being retired, and the MD-80s have a significant amount of life left in them.

Plus, FL has had two incidents on the 717s: a total electrical failure in Atlanta and smoke in the cockpit in Orlando. Plus there was that BOS to PHL 717 that caught fire a few months ago.

Every airline has problems. You only hear about AirTran because they are the reincarnatoin of ValueJet. Like it or not, there is a bias against ValueJet in the media, and they all know AirTran is ValueJet, so they report on things that other airlines would skate on. I won't go into it, but I can if necessary.

I still stand by taking YX. It's the most direct service and an easier connection. There is a small possibility of changing concourses in ATL, but no chance of it in MKE.



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User currently offlineWarszawa From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 727 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 3759 times:

" FL's A320s are like flying on cattle cars "

LOL! Thats good to know. I also want to make it comfortable for the person thats travelling to LAX.

" The only concern your friend might have is the smaller aircraft size out of FNT "

Ah believe me...She has her fair experience of Prop Flights  Big grin

She's been on ATA's Connections Saab 340 FNT-MDW, MDW-FNT, and also Northwest Mesaba Airlinks's Saab 340 DTW-FNT. She actually likes the prop flights, as long as the winds are calm though ( The last DTW-FNT flight the winds were gusting to like 25 knots so it was up and down all over, but the FNT-MDW MDW-FNT flights were smooth and she enjoyed them very much )...Women always find the small aircraft " Cute " ehh? lol

I was in more favor of Midwest Express just because i rarely see them having good deals especially out of FNT, while AirTran always has nice deals so its pretty easy to fly them another time.

If Midwest Express, she'd fly FNT-MKE on the Beech 1900, then MKE-LAX on the MD-88 (the 2x3 seating )

" I know some people use Orange County as an alternative to LAX "

Thanks for the tip, good to know. I went to ME's website and i looked up FNT-MKE, MKE-SNA, but man the price for that is skyhigh, was $474. Plus the routing was crazy, lol, FNT-MKE, MKE-MCI, MCI-LAX, she'd be PO'd if i bought that, lol.

As far as safety concerns...thats no real biggy, lol, never even crosses my mind really. Unless " Flash Airlines " managed to fly in the USA and had some good fares on their 737 flights into LAX...I'd be second guessing myself...  Big grin

So Midwest seems like the obvious choice.

Is Midwest Express comfortable? Planes nice and clean etc.? How are those Beech 1900's?

Also it says " In Flight Cafe " for the MKE-LAX segment. Any ideas how that is or what that is?

I'll probably book tomorrow.

Also...You guys can still post opinions on the AirTran / Midwest choice, i havent booked or anything so im still open to suggestions  Smile





Flying a plane is no diff. from riding a bicycle. Its just a lot harder to put baseball cards in the spokes. -'Airplane'
User currently offlineAa757first From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3350 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 3749 times:

In Flight Cafe is the food for sale program.

AAndrew


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