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Rumor ATA Looking At The 717?  
User currently offlineTimberwolf24 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 575 posts, RR: 1
Posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 15245 times:

Several posts on the ATA Yahoo business board state that ATA is looking at the 717. From what was posted it will be a sizable number 60 to 70 aircraft. I have a feeling it could be wishful thinking knowing the financial shape ATA is in and that Boeing is looking at closing the 717 line.
Has anyone heard rumors of this floating around ATA and might be able to shed some more light on this?


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User currently offlineAa757first From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3350 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 15095 times:

Why? They already were in some financial trouble and they have all of those 738s. I don't see why they would.

AAndrew


User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12113 posts, RR: 49
Reply 2, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 15032 times:
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I understand they were able to refinance the debt right now, it is still going to come due soon. I think it is wishful thinking on someone's part. I think they would be looking at a replacement for the L1011's first.


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User currently offline7E72004 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3587 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 15009 times:

I highly doubt they are going to get the 717. The 737-800s are good enough and if they are going to buy any new aircraft it should be to replace the L1011s or saab340 (perhaps rj's)  Big thumbs up


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User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 57
Reply 4, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 15003 times:

I am not trying to be harsh, but was the talk about ATA or AirTran.....frequently, these two airlines get mixed up because of the similar initials. Of course, AirTran is the largest 717 operator.

User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12113 posts, RR: 49
Reply 5, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 14966 times:
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I believe they meant TZ/ATA and not AirTran/FL


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User currently offlineAs739x From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6153 posts, RR: 24
Reply 6, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 14960 times:

Timberwolf....can you post the article please?

ASSFO



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User currently offlineCwapilot From United States of America, joined May 2000, 1166 posts, RR: 17
Reply 7, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 14921 times:

If even 2/3 of these 717 rumors turned out to have anything behind them, the 717 would be nearing 1000 orders by now, wouldn't it? Unless the new Embraers start falling from the sky, I think it is safe to start searching out cemetary plots for the 717 program. (All the while, I am hoping I can say later on that I was wrong...)



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User currently offlineDfwRevolution From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 978 posts, RR: 51
Reply 8, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 14855 times:

I agree that an L1011 replacement would be more likely. Boeing has mentioned that an unexpected North American airline might place a launch order for the 7E7, ATA anyone?

Regards,
DFW


User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16285 posts, RR: 56
Reply 9, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 14841 times:

I read something similar recently. Apparently ATA feels that the 738 is too large for some of the viable destinations from IND (and to a lesser degree MDW) since they have moved rapidly to a hub & spoke format at IND/MDW. The 717 would enable ATA to significantly build their IND hub.

Despite my username, I am not a mindless 717 devotee.  Smile






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User currently offlineGamarocchi From Italy, joined Nov 2003, 198 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 14809 times:

It would really be nice, I don't like the idea of the last incarnation of the glorious DC9 dying out. Still, lately not a single one of the rumors about airlines being interested in the 717 turned out to be true. There even was a joke about those 5 717 Hex'Air (a regional French airlines) was supposed to be ordering, and some poor 717 fans were so desperate to believe it. I HOPE that aircraft will get new orders now, but I am not believing any rumor until I see a serious article. Alas, I am afraid that the aircraft is just too heavy to compete with the Embraer jets, it carries too few people to be able to replace most DC9/MD80s.... If BIG orders don't come during these year, the plane is dead.

User currently offlineTimberwolf24 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 575 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 14755 times:

ASSFO
Here is the link to the ATA message board the postings were on. The info was posted in Msg #4708 RE: North American & ATA and MSG #4710 RE: Virgin & ATA.

http://messages.yahoo.com/?action=q&board=atah



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User currently offlineRumorboy From United States of America, joined Aug 2002, 356 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 14727 times:

The reason why this rumor has started is because the company has approached the pilot union(ALPA) about setting up a pay scale for the 717. It doesn't mean they are getting the aircraft. Just the company and the union are talking about it. This has come up before except it was a different airplane last year. The company and union were talking about a pay scale for the 767s. Although I don't see them getting 717's it would be great for them to get a 100 seat airplane. There smallest airplane 737-800 holds I think 174. It would open small to medium size cities that right now ATA could not do.

User currently offlineSyncmaster From United States of America, joined Jul 2002, 2037 posts, RR: 10
Reply 13, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 14669 times:
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Weather it is true or not...

I actually think it might be worth a try. And the 717 would be the right aircraft to do it, this would allow them to enter into much smaller markets, and provide more point-to-point services, like what NW is doing with non-stop Diesel 9 service from GRR to TPA and MCO, as well as many smaller cities like GRR. They could really start something. At least that's my two cents.


User currently offlinePA34plt From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 44 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 14618 times:

7E72004 :

ChiEx won't be replacing the Saab340's for a LOOOONG time. They already looked at replacing them with RJ's and supplementing with RJ's, Saab 2000's, and Q400's.


User currently offlineChiGB1973 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 1616 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 14507 times:

TZ has decided it needs a smaller aircraft for the mainline fleet. Whether or not we actually get anything remains to be seen. I have heard no rumors on-line. The 340s are here to stay for a while as PA34plt said. The regional jet market is too strong for ATA to consider buying it now. I talked to the president of C8 personally and he says they are looking at different options, one being the SAAB 2000, but have not decided on any one aircraft nor when the SAAB 340s will be replaced. There would have to be considerable work done on the boarding/staging area. There is not really enough room on the south side of MDW for too much bigger of an aircraft.

I am a fan of AirTran's 717 and it would be nice to have some around. TZ's focus is also on scheduled service. Though the military has been a very important part of ATA and always will, replacing the L-1011 fleet is a ways down the road. Wait until some of these 777s get a few more years on them.

Keep rooting for us guys. This is a great airline. Tough times are standard in the industry and ATA is holding its own, but there is a long way to go.

M


User currently offlineAloha717200 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4506 posts, RR: 15
Reply 16, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 14412 times:

I thought ATA had already gotten rid of its last L-1011? They aren't in pax service anymore from what I've sean and heard... Confused

User currently offlineElwood64151 From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 2477 posts, RR: 6
Reply 17, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 14333 times:

Cwapilot:

You and me both, dude. You and me both.

Alas, I am afraid that the aircraft is just too heavy to compete with the Embraer jets,

Alas, I wish that were the problem. Then Boeing could do something about it. Unfortunately, it has far more to do with payscales than weigh scales.



As for TZ buying the 717, there is a fairly sizable hole in their fleets that a CRJ-900, E-190, or 717 would fit very well into. With strong RJ sales and lagging sales of 717s, it's possible that the 717 could be an excellent addition to TZ's fleet that could be available at an significant discout. The only problem I see is TZ's still heavy debt-load, which might make financing something of a problem.

With the L-1011, didn't TZ get some 757-300s?



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User currently offlineSyncmaster From United States of America, joined Jul 2002, 2037 posts, RR: 10
Reply 18, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 14301 times:
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Elwood64151, yes they got quite a few. Not sure the exact number, but they are for scheduled passenger service. The L-1011's are used for charter services, I believe both military (primary use) and vacation charters. I may be wrong! WMUPilot would be a good person to ask.  Big thumbs up

User currently offlineTZFALAX From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 80 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 14074 times:

We have 12 757-300s. (550-561). Memos have indicated that the company is currently seeking an aircraft in the 100 seat range and out online the word is the 717. We are looking at expanding North-South versus East-West. One memo even mentioned the possibility of a new hub. It was also stated that the new aircraft would be operated mainline and not C8. Again, everything is still very premature. Very limited information is actually being released from the company at this point. There will be employee meetings across the system in the next month.

User currently offlineAloha717200 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4506 posts, RR: 15
Reply 20, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 14011 times:

I sure hope ATA goes with the 717 over the E-jets. Not that I don't like the E-jets, but a TZ order just might save the line.

User currently offlineSwaluvfa From United States of America, joined May 2002, 277 posts, RR: 6
Reply 21, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 13976 times:

With all of this being said......do you think there might be a possible merger with AirTran to gain a solid fleet of 717s AND a hub in Atlanta. Both ATA and AirTran are low cost, both now offer business class, maybe a new powerhouse low cost carrier could form? This would give AirTran the nationwide service AND international service that they might be seeking, and it could give ATA a good solid market share in the east coast.

User currently offlinePlanemaker From Tuvalu, joined Aug 2003, 6201 posts, RR: 35
Reply 22, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 13935 times:

...there is a fairly sizable hole in their fleets that a CRJ-900, E-190, or 717 would fit very well into.

Sorry to have to set the record straight but... the CRJ-900 is barely an 86-seat aircraft. BBD did a little bit of marketing sleight-of-hand to "fool" everyone that it could compete with the FD-928 and E190. It is certainly not a 90-seater let alone have anywhere close to the capacity of the 717.

If ATA needs a 100-pax aircraft "now" then the 717 is their only bet. The E195 won't be available for delivery until 2006.



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User currently offlineFRA2DTW From Germany, joined Feb 2004, 322 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 13862 times:

I also believe that something might be in the works between ATA and Airtran. They would be a powerful combination, with discount hubs in Atlanta, Chicago and SFO. Wonder what would happen with Indy - combined maintenance?

User currently offlinePlanemaker From Tuvalu, joined Aug 2003, 6201 posts, RR: 35
Reply 24, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 13818 times:

...but a TZ order just might save the line.

Save? More like extend. "Save" is just getting a bit too optimistic.  Wink/being sarcastic



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25 Post contains images Flyinryan99 : Please forgive me for being stupid (working for the company and not knowing)....who does ATA finance the airplanes through? If it's Boeing...then I wo
26 Ltbewr : Interesting the idea of them considering the 717. Probably be best for serving to/from Indy to smaller cities in their system or to be added on rather
27 BR715-A1-30 : I think it would be awesome if TZ got 717s. If they were to order 60-70 examples, it would be AWESOME!!!. I had the privilege to take a peek at Midwes
28 B757capt : Air Tran and ATA together would be really great for both airlines. That will really scare us guys at NW
29 Micknix : If they need something smaller, why not downsize and go with some 737-700's. They could use the 737-700's on less dense routes and to increase frequen
30 Yyz717 : why not downsize and go with some 737-700's. They could use the 737-700's on less dense routes and to increase frequency on existing routes such as MD
31 Ejmdwfan : If there was a merger between ATA and Airtran I wonder what would become of Chicago Express. Airtran and Chicago Express both fly to Quad Cities, Milw
32 Wedgetail737 : If ATA gets 717's, then Wichita's Fair Fares will be on the bandwagon to get them here, I'm sure. We'll still looking for a west coast flier though.
33 Ifly2eat : Financial trouble with the B-737-800's? Where do you get this BS? We had a 95% load factor for April. To answer the question we are looking at the B-7
34 AirTran737 : Personally I thing that merging with TZ would be a nightmare. We've already been through one merger, and some of the original AirTran pilots are still
35 Ifly2eat : AirTran737: I'm not sure why you think all ALPA pilots think you guys are all scabs over there. Just a few years ago ATA was a scummy little airline t
36 AirTran737 : Ifly2eat It's good to hear that you have a good opinion of our airline. I have some really good friends who have gone to ATA from Skyway in the last y
37 FRA2DTW : I would assume from the beginning that ATA will be stapled since Airtran is the healthier carrier that will bail out George M. and his 14 percent bond
38 AviatorTJ : I would HATE TZ and FL merging. I try to keep that out of my head because, I am sure I would lose the great service and planes that come along with FL
39 Sllevin : Or ATA could do something radical, and acquire 25-30 Fokker 100's from AA. The reduced capital costs might well be worth the slight increase in costs/
40 Midway2airtran : Maybe TZ is looking to convert future B737/B757 orders into B717's to get a good 100 seater deal? By the way, how many more B737's does TZ have on ord
41 ChiGB1973 : TZ has all the 757-300s that we ordered, 12. We have 9 more 738s to be delivered. I am not sure of the new delivery schedule since they were deferred.
42 Wmupilot : ATA is not looking to merge with any airline. ATA and AirTran would make a great codesharing partnership. I would think the first LCC Partnership woul
43 Elwood64151 : Or ATA could do something radical, and acquire 25-30 Fokker 100's from AA. The reduced capital costs might well be worth the slight increase in costs/
44 ChiGB1973 : Wmupilot I was off for a few days and only heard it on here. I worked out last night and back today, the 717 rumor is spreading like wildfire. I agree
45 AirTran737 : Come on ATA order the 717 and save the line. You'll love the airplane!
46 Aloha717200 : The new livery is much better as far as I am concerned and will be glad when all the 757-200s have been painted. I actually like the old livery much b
47 PHLBOS : Having looked at the Yahoo Business Board posting, it appears to me that the post reads more like a discussion post rather than an actual article. Unt
48 Capitol8s : I miss the original AMERICAN TRANS AIR titles and livery....The "Circus Wagon Paint" (Palm trees) was a bit much....
49 Wmupilot : From what I have heard (rumor) the deal was signed a couple of days ago. Apparently they are Airtran's cancelled orders and ATA got an awsome deal on
50 AirTran737 : Well hopefully ATA did order the 717, it'll be great to see another paintjob on such another lovely bird. Hey Wmupilot, is Julie still the manager in
51 FlyABR : airtran actually cancelled some 717 orders...? seeing as how they've been growing that surprises me...
52 AA737-823 : Wmupilot: Um, I don't think AirTran HAS any cancelled 717 orders... they just ordered ten more with the 737 order, so why would they cancel any? Also,
53 Scootertrash : I'll add some fuel to the rumor mill fire: We had a ATA jumpseater today... A L1011 pilot. Anyhow, he said that ATA was in talks to acquire some (30-i
54 FutureB6Capt : WHY? What would be the point of that? With the 738's they already are are financially unstable... As for the talk of FL and TZ merging? IN YOUR DREAM
55 Wmupilot : AirTran737- Yeah Julie is still the manager here in GRR. The way servicair has lost contracts here in GRR your prolly lucky you went to FL in MKE. ATA
56 FlyABR : I'll add some fuel to the rumor mill fire: We had a ATA jumpseater today... A L1011 pilot. Anyhow, he said that ATA was in talks to acquire some (30-i
57 ChiGB1973 : You can bet there will not be 104 seats. That would require 3 flight attendants; an extra one for 4 seats. I am thinking 100 even or as many as they c
58 Atrude777 : Some routes I can see that ATA could use on the IND routes with the 717 could be STL-IND, IND-SDF, IND-BNA, etc etc i sure hope ATA comes to STL and f
59 AirTran737 : Im sure that if ATA orders the 717 they'll use the same seat configuration that we use at AirTran 105 in coach and 12 in business class. I know the cr
60 Wmupilot : Why do i also smell a possible Low Cost alliance with another airline? Seems that all the moves the company has been making seems to indicate somethin
61 Isitsafenow : Excuse me...May I barge in this room with a question? Why would you want to buy a 717 or A318 when an RJ namely the EM170 or 190 will do the same thin
62 Dc10guy : Do you remember the movie Vacations ??? Remember aunt Edna ??? Well that's what the 717 is ...Its Aunt Edna. Nobody wants her so she gets passed aroun
63 Wmupilot : So far ATA is an all Boeing airline. They won't go for any Airbus product. This may be the same reason why we haven't looked at Embrear or Bombardier
64 QantasA332 : Well, we'll just have to wait and see in ATA's case... However, there's a fairly good chance that Phillipine carrier Cebu Pacific will keep the 717 pr
65 AA737-823 : ISitsafenow- Simple- the Embraer 170/190 do NOT do the same thing as the 717 for 75% of the cost. They do DIFFERENT things. Capacity is not all that a
66 717fan : Lets hope this all comes true!! I'll keep my fingers crossed!
67 Rwinn : I'm sure the same will happen when the 195's come into service for B6. I thought B6 was going to be running the 190s? -Robert
68 Aloha717200 : They're 190s. fillerfiller
69 Isitsafenow : American737-823 I know all about Spirit. I was the one who said they would not buy the 717. I agree on the cargo aspect. That is one excellent point.
70 ChiGB1973 : Isitsafenow, The EMB jet is very popular, hence ATA does not want something that has no room for negotiations. Boeing has this nifty little program re
71 Planemaker : If ATA needs a 100-seat aircraft now, then the 717 is really the only option available - 717s are readily available now. However, if they can wait 2 y
72 Wmupilot : Here is the answer to the rumor. This question was on the employee Infoline and a reply from the company heads: "3. Is there any truth to the rumor th
73 Post contains images 7E72004 : You will NEVER see IND-SDF---SDF is only an hour and a half from IND at most.
74 7E72004 : p.s. I meant an hour and a half drive and plus...it would not be a profitable route.
75 717fan : If they are really interested to buy the 717, they should do it quick, otherwise its possibly too late.... I am sure Boeing will do a lot to have ATA
76 LV : I'm just wondering where they would get the gate space at IND for the expansion...kick the other guys in C over to D when US finally gives up its grip
77 Wmupilot : Don't forget about the midfield terminal project. I do believe that when it gets finalized ATA will move a vast majority or it's gates tho the new fac
78 Ouboy79 : The 717s would definitely completely swing the door wide open for a ton of new markets. I think it would be a safe bet to see them rolled out into the
79 EuroLeb : 2 simple questions: How many B-717 have been ordered / in operation to date? And how does this aircraft compare with EMB and CRJ's jets? It would be r
80 AirframeAS : Saw something on CNN Headline News (4-25-04) about the 717 program was getting a huge lift from somebody but they didnt say who the customer was. Some
81 LN-MOW : That could be the SN Brussels deal that may be in the works. SNBA has been quering maintanance companies in Europe about price/service for 15 units of
82 GSPSPOT : I thought the LCC's were ruling the skies these days.... Why is ATA in financial trouble?
83 Ifly2eat : Because management at ATA has no business model. All they do is throw darts and see if one or two stick.
84 Elwood64151 : Unless there is a big order/orders for the 717, you will see Boeing pull the plug on that airplane before August first of this year. Nice try, but I d
85 Wmupilot : Because management at ATA has no business model. All they do is throw darts and see if one or two stick. wow ifly2eat...you seem like a nice armchair
86 NYCTZ : Hi Wmupilot! I agree with you on all points but I believe the bonds mature in 2009 and 2010. I could be wrong but a little investigating could find th
87 Post contains images 7E72004 : THe Indianapolis star (www.indystar.com) has an article that discusses ATA looking at the 717. Very interesting as the rumor appears to becoming close
88 Post contains links and images AirTran737 : http://www.indystar.com/articles/6/141879-9226-031.html That should do it. Im really glad to see that TZ is looking at the 717, she's such a great bir
89 Oerk : Does Boeing offer a 717-300? I thought there was only a -200 model, but why does the Boeing web site show a picture of a 717-300?
90 AirTran737 : The 717-300 was a ploy to lure the Star Alliance into ordering the 717, but as we all know they didn't.
91 7E72004 : I am sure Northwest is in the middle of "closed door" talks in terms of replacing the DC-9 but we will probably not know anything for a while.
92 Vivavegas : Management has not commented on this, read closely: "Flight crew members of the Indianapolis airline said executives, including Chairman and founder G
93 ORDagent : If TZ gets the 717 I would be thrilled as I always have liked rear engine aircraft. The two limiting factors I see are as follows: 1) TZ at MDW has al
94 Aloha717200 : I have to wonder though if, even a large 60 plane order from TZ, would save the line. I was a bit more enthusiastic earlier thinking that it would, bu
95 MidnightMike : There can be a 717-300 produced if ATA orders it, there can be a 717-100, all of the testing has been completed on it when it was offered up to the S
96 Post contains links and images PHLBOS : Had Boeing dumped the 736 and increased the range on the 717, i bet it would have sold better. I don't believe the 736 has sold that great either; NO
97 Quickmover : I have always thought that if you are flying routes less than 1400 miles and need something that holds 117 passengers, why spend the extra 15-20 mil.
98 Ckfred : It was in today's Chicago Tribune that ATA is looking at both the 717 and the Embrear 190. There is a gap between the Saab 340 (34 seats) and the 737-
99 RobINDYHP : they had that same article in the Indianapolis star. the CEO said they were looking at the 717 and the embrarer.
100 Airbus3801 : Does ATA even need them, as well as their money problems?
101 N751PR : ... However, there's a fairly good chance that Phillipine carrier Cebu Pacific will keep the 717 program alive with an order for some later this year,
102 Ouboy79 : I think everyone needs to sit back and see, what I believe (from what I've been told) the main driving force is...to exploit the smaller markets they
103 Wmupilot : I do believe that many employees are still sore about the hourly Indy shuttle. There are many more options for those aircraft. Several current C8 citi
104 Mlsrar : Also MKE had am almost daily funjet charter to LAS on the 738 aswell In which last minute tickets could be had for about $108 return...it was awesome.
105 Aussie747 : QF (aka Jetstar's 717's) will not be retiring the 717's for a while. Not until they have sufficient numbers of A320's will that happen. If Jetstar doe
106 IndustrialPate : When FNT opened up there was a weekly departure to LAS on the 738. TZ operated FNT-LAS and FNT-CUN on behalf of its Travel Charter outfit, which was s
107 Post contains links Wmupilot : Here is the official word from management in the form of a press release from the company. It pretty much confirms that we are looking at a smaller ai
108 Post contains links AirTran737 : Here's a sneak peek at what the future might hold for TZ.....I like it http://rockawayreef.netfirms.com/ata717.html
109 Post contains images 7E72004 : I like the 717 in those colors
110 Mikephotos : If Mike is around i would love to see a 717 in ATAs current livery. Looks like AirTran737 beat me to posting my link...thanks!! Michael
111 Post contains images Ouboy79 : Of course none of the ATA 717s will have eyebrow windows. Great looking bird I must say.
112 Post contains images Mikephotos : What are you talking about Ouboy79? You must be mistaken. I don't see any eyebrow's on that 717 Mike
113 ChiGB1973 : TZ won't have 117 seats like AirTran. I understand FL's seat pitch is 29". I think I heard 112 from some of the upper level guys. Looking forward to i
114 Ouboy79 : Mike - No fair! LOL Hopefully we'll see something from ATA soon. Any chance we could maybe get to see what the Embraer 190 would look in the TZ colors
115 Rj777 : Well, unless Embraer can come up with a sweet deal on the 190, the 717 is looking like a shoo-in.
116 AirTran737 : Does anyone know specific dates as to when TZ is looking for a new aircraft type? We've all been talking about how great it would be to see such and s
117 ChiGB1973 : From what I understand, Boeing wants the order this month. There are some things to be worked out at ATA. The sooner, the better!
118 Elwood64151 : The 717-300 was a ploy to lure the Star Alliance into ordering the 717, but as we all know they didn't. The 717-300 wasn't a ploy. MDD had always plan
119 ChiGB1973 : I have faith in Boeing! and ATA! M
120 Ramerinianair : I was looking throught the posts and I was reminded of my HA experiance. Hawaiian Airlines squeezes 123 seats into their 717 A/C. 123 seats with 8 F s
121 Miami1 : Ramerinianair - Hawaiian do not have a forward LAV or Galley 2 unit in their 717s, hence the extra seats. TZ would need these as it's average flight i
122 AirTran737 : Well hopefully ATA gets off their butt and orders the 717, I think it would be a perfect fit for their future route structure.
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