Singapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13711 posts, RR: 21 Posted (9 years 1 month 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 5191 times:
Singapore Airlines Limited - A Member of Star Alliance - has announced that it has signed a letter of intent with two undisclosed airlines to sell 8 Boeing 747-400 MEGATOPS.
These will be converted into freighters. Five will be delivered in 2006, two in 2007 and one in 2008.
Currently, Singapore Airlines is operating
28 MEGATOPs
52 JUBILEEs
3 LEADERSHIPs
On order are
8 JUBILEEs
2 LEADERSHIPs due to arrive this month
10 GIGATOPs
Col From Malaysia, joined Nov 2003, 2039 posts, RR: 22 Reply 3, posted (9 years 1 month 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 5059 times:
Shame, I was hoping that the 744 would be returning, all flights I used with SQ over the last 3 weeks were full, some 777 flights could have done with 744.
Planemannyc From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 989 posts, RR: 9 Reply 6, posted (9 years 1 month 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 4811 times:
I wonder if Air India would be picking any up.
I also wonder if Thai would get any, especially after the UAL deal fell through. Then again, Thai and SQ don't always work well together, although they are part of the same (shaky ) alliance.
I think in the current aviation market conditions, only Asian carriers are interested in the B744.
Na From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 9598 posts, RR: 10 Reply 13, posted (9 years 1 month 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 4431 times:
Xwisard,
CX has to move away from RR-powered 744s as none are available secondhand. At least not the required number. The much-rumoured deal with BA didn´t work out as BA won´t sell so many. QF won´t sell a single one before the A380s arrive. And who else has pax-744s with RRs? Air NZ a few, SAA a handful. Not enough for CX, not available shortterm. It was in the news already last two weeks that CX would have to go shopping at UA or - SIA.
Maybe they´ll try to get the secondhand 744s for their pax fleet still with RRs later.
Col From Malaysia, joined Nov 2003, 2039 posts, RR: 22 Reply 14, posted (9 years 1 month 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 4179 times:
Singapore_Air
Started by having a meeting in Brussels, so used UA BDL-IAD-BRU. Picked up BMI BRU-LHR (new 319). Then got on real class and flew LHR-SIN-PEK (SQ 744/772). Came back on PEK-SIN (SQ772), spent two days at home in Sing (lived there from 94 to 97), then up to BKK (SQ744 9V-SMO regional 744), back on same SMO, then overnight in Sing for early flight back to LHR. Transited through hell at LHR up to MAN, to pick up BMI 332 flight to IAD and back to BDL.
I used to live on East Coast Sing, so rented a car to tour round as I had 4th April off. You cannot get past the maintenance hangers of SQ anymore, they have re-routed the road.
I use SQ as often as possible, you know what you are going to get, and using Changi as a hub is so relaxing. Use MAN for Europe where possible.
GBOAF From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 153 posts, RR: 4 Reply 15, posted (9 years 1 month 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 3811 times:
Singapore_Air...
I work closely with SQ at LHR.
Currently the 744's operated into LHR range from reg's SMI to SPP inclusive!
Any idea which ones will be sold on??..I know its poss way too early!
However, SMI, SMJ, SMK, and SML are the odd ones out on the LHR route with a slightly diff config...i.e. emex etc,
Also, would previously leased a/c i.e. SMT come into the equation as well?? (remember this one well, as the ansett logo is still visable over the entrance to door 1 left!!)
Cheers, GBOAF
Who cares enough to make the world half as big by flying twice as fast? We care!
FLYACYYZ From Canada, joined Jan 2004, 1914 posts, RR: 12 Reply 18, posted (9 years 1 month 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 3190 times:
When I saw 8 744's being sold by SIA, something triggered. Despite bankruptcy protection, and all of the uncertainty that revolves around the company, in a bizarre twist, I wonder if AC will be the proud recipient.
Several months ago, a proposal by the VP of Flight Operations was put before the pilot group to acquire 8 - 744's with a provisional downgrade to 330/340 salary levels. Also, it appears that suddenly this weeks business model is to focus on international, particularly Asia and South America routes which are high yielding and lucrative.
What are the chances?? AC has no money to spend--it seems perfectly logical.
Andrewtang From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 457 posts, RR: 9 Reply 19, posted (9 years 1 month 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 3103 times:
While I don't really mind if Cathay Pacific 744 operate with PW engines, I do hope they come in better shape this time unlike the A340-300 which had quite a lot of problems that need urgent attention and fixing after delivery. And most importantly I hope 9V-SMT DON'T get into CX/KA's fleet in anyway...
Philsquares From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 21, posted (9 years 1 month 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2934 times:
Please re-read the press release carefully. The 8 400s are going to be converted into freighters. So, that would rule out quite a few carriers that were names. It would leave CX. However, what about NWA getting them? They are a P&W operator, they have bought SQ a/c before and currently have 2 ex-UAL 200B SF in their fleet.
Yyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 15989 posts, RR: 59 Reply 22, posted (9 years 1 month 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2785 times:
When I saw 8 744's being sold by SIA, something triggered......I wonder if AC will be the proud recipient.
Rodney, I thought the same thing. I still think AC should look at replacing their 343 fleet with less expensive older 744s. As for the 345's......I simply cannot believe that they are cost justified.
I wonder if SQ was insistent on selling them only for cargo conversion?
Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
Docpepz From Singapore, joined May 2001, 1938 posts, RR: 3 Reply 23, posted (9 years 1 month 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2596 times:
Col: Singapore_Air is, surprisingly, not a Singaporean. He is British. As such he doesn't live in Singapore haha.
Well since the 744 is the only aircraft with the real 3-class premium product in SQ's fleet, does this mean that SQ is going two-class? Cos their Transcontinental 772s that have the spacebeds are only two class.
The Regional 772s that are configured in the Two or Three-class configurations do not have the "real" First or J class seats.
Since the regional 777s are put on routes as far away as Tokyo, Sydney and Istanbul (7-8 hours) it would mean that SQ has a rather weak product on its medium-haul routes on destinations to Australia, with QF fitting all Australia-SIN A330s with the Skybed.
For the first time in history, QF would have a stronger J product than SQ on ALL Australia-Singapore flights. (Discounting the daily 744s that SQ uses to SYD and MEL. PER, BNE and ADL will continue to see the regional 777s, as will 1-2 of the 3 daily SQ flights to SYD and MEL.)
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On a lighter note,
Since Singapore_Air has taken the liberty to christen the SQ A380s the Gigatop, allow me to enlighten you on other names he has come up with for SIA aircraft. (They all start with W)
Flying-Tiger From Germany, joined Aug 1999, 4111 posts, RR: 39 Reply 24, posted (9 years 1 month 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2510 times:
Don't rule out Lufthansa Cargo - they still have an interest in B747-400F/SFs, but LH's own B744 are currently completely tied up in Pax operations. No way for LHC to lay their hands on some of those.
25 United Airline: Well since the 744 is the only aircraft with the real 3-class premium product in SQ's fleet, does this mean that SQ is going two-class? Not ALL of SQ'
26 Mrniji: I wonder if Air India would be picking any up. Only with a lease, not a purchase... buying a/c for the stateowned is a long process...!
27 Brubiac: >>And most importantly I hope 9V-SMT DON'T get into CX/KA's fleet in anyway... What's the problem with this one?
28 Skymonster: Singapore already have at least 4 747-400s parked in the US - three at Victorville and one at Goodyear. Whilst these don't represent enough airframes,
29 Ex_SQer: Well since the 744 is the only aircraft with the real 3-class premium product in SQ's fleet, does this mean that SQ is going two-class? The 744 replac
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