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Boeing Dumps Lears, 2 604s For Sale  
User currently offlinePlanemaker From Tuvalu, joined Aug 2003, 6358 posts, RR: 34
Posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 3048 times:

Well, seems like Boeing really is trying to cut costs now...

Boeing Cutting Its Flight Department

Apparently building corporate jets is OK, but flying on them might not be, according to Boeing’s new CEO, Harry Stonecipher. He is slashing the company flight department because he reportedly remarked that such use is an extravagance. A company spokesman at corporate headquarters in Chicago did not return a call in time for this report. But sources tell AIN Alerts that the aircraft manufacturer has already sold two Learjet 60s, placed two Challenger 604s on the block and “parked” two EC 135 turbine helicopters.

The fate of the company’s flight-department personnel and its own corporate-operated BBJs was unknown at press time. A spokesperson at Boeing Business Jets in Seattle did not deny Stonecipher’s remarks, but emphasized that the company is “committed” to the BBJ program. Boeing continues to see a market for the BBJ, she added. (Aviation International News)


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User currently offlineRes From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 417 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2911 times:

Happen to know the tail numbers on those lears/challengers?

thanks,

Tim



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User currently offlineM404 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2229 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2877 times:
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When Boeing moved the HQ to Chicago was Meigs field ever thought of to base these acft at. Did they know Meigs was about to be hijacked by the Mayor. Where were these acft based and was it with the corporate BBJ that I think I heard they had?


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User currently offlineJetChaser From Canada, joined Dec 2003, 187 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2859 times:


604s are N344BA, N345BA and N346BA

LR60s are N8270 and N8271

BBJ is N349BA

Sure they are an "extravagance" but they'll keep the BBJ just the same, eh?

JetChaser


User currently offlineSQ25J From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 308 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2749 times:

I thought the whole reason Boeing had these is to fly in customers, which makes sense condidering deals are in millions or even billions. Perhaps they will charter corporate jets for this function on a need basis and save money.

User currently offlineATM From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 11 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2650 times:

The corporate aircraft were based at Gary, IN. Airport. Boeing bought/rented an unused hanger on the field. One Challenger was based at Long Beach (LGB.)

The two EC-135 helicopters were based at LGB and were used for executive transportation throughout Southern California. It's my understanding that both for sale. Fairly new aircraft - less than 18 months old.

I heard the Boeing had more than one BBJ in their own fleet - maybe two/three. Not sure of the exact number.


User currently offline727200er From Canada, joined Mar 2004, 318 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2623 times:

I guess if I were a big boeing customer I would actually expect them to send me a BBJ. I think I would be dissapointed if they sent a Lear(Even though I love 'em Big grin )


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User currently offlineBoeing nut From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2575 times:

I heard the Boeing had more than one BBJ in their own fleet - maybe two/three. Not sure of the exact number.

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User currently offlineSocalatc From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 529 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2535 times:

I have lots of friends in LGB that are all(except for a couple) loosing their jobs. All of us in the tower will miss talking to the Helicopter pilots everyday, Its too bad, because they were all very very nice people.

User currently offlineJjbiv From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1226 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2432 times:

I thought Boeing had the hangar at MDW next to Chicago Express on the south side of the field (closest to 31C/13C). No?

joe


User currently offlineCancidas From Poland, joined Jul 2003, 4112 posts, RR: 11
Reply 10, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2399 times:

if you think about it, its kind of funny that the BOEING flight department was flying on BOMBARDIER aircraft...


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User currently offlineCitationJet From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 2459 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2371 times:

Given the size of Boeing aircraft, it would be difficult to have a flight department made up of only Boeing aircraft.
When I worked for Boeing Wichita, I took a company trip on a Boeing company airplane. The airplane was a Cessna Citation 3, Model 650. At that time Boeing owned/leased about 3 Citation 3s.
When I traveled on commercial airlines on a Boeing trip, I sometimes flew on Airbus aircraft.
I received my PPL in the Boeing Flying Club. They used C172, C182s.



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User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2327 times:

They'll keep N737BZ and N707BZ at least, as they're BBJ demonstrators as well as Boeing's corporate transports.

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