Refueler1974 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 235 posts, RR: 0 Posted (12 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 4388 times:
Does anyone know, or have any ideas about, what Northwest might replace the A320 with eventually? I have been told that their 1st A320 is nearing it's 15th birthday (August 1, 1989). I do know that they are still good aircraft and they still have a lot of life left in them, but do you think that NW will start replacing the oldest airframes anytime soon? If so, what might be their successor?
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DeltaGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (12 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 4316 times:
That's a pretty rhetorical question....if NW can keep their -9's for 30+ years, expect a NG a/c like a 320 to be around for 40+....but, at the retirement, the last 320 crew will be picked up by a -9 crew.
Nwfltattendant From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 341 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (12 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 4276 times:
A320s will NEVER last as long as the DC9s. The DC9s are rock solid aircraft that be slamed around, abused, smashed, and then put back at the gate looking like a million bucks. So back to the original question. The DC9s will replace the A320s
Col From Malaysia, joined Nov 2003, 2275 posts, RR: 22
Reply 11, posted (12 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3540 times:
The 320 will be with Northwest for a long time yet. They actually compliment the DC9 very nicely.
As for Airbus poor maintenance as it get older. It must be true, why else would CZ, jetblue, Frontier, and other 320 family users keep ordering in such quantity. They hate them, and their future maintenance costs will put them out of business in 10 years, it is all in their 10 year plans. Start airline or go to single aircraft fleet, run it for 10 years, sink it and open beach bar in Phuket. And we all thought they purchased because they were a good plane, which customers like, we must all look stupid!!
For my fellow Statesiders who love Boeing, the 380 could have more US content than the 7E7. Airbus should send more work to US instead of Japan, we buy their planes, the Japanese would prefer to buy a 707 over the 332.
DeltaMD11 From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 1709 posts, RR: 30
Reply 12, posted (12 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3524 times:
I don't think that it's even feasible to be talking about the replacement of NW's 320's now---they're still babies in the grand scheme of things. NW is happy with them and I'm sure that they are going to be around for a long time. This question is like asking what jetBlue intends to replace their 320's way the hell down the road from now. Who knows? (and no that is not an invite to make more speculative remarks)
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Luisinho From Portugal, joined Nov 2000, 230 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (12 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3516 times:
Reading all this posts... and this is not the only one... i get the ideia that some Boeing fans, unhappy with boeing's performance in market just came to this places to spread confusion saying that the X airline is not happy with this airbus, or that one is going to replace their new airbus, etc.
This type of thing really "sucks"... this is a hard "sucking".!!
I hate to hear that! Does any one ever heared that the X airline is going to change their new Boeing Model for an airbus?
But what drives me mad is that when somebody makes this never revel the source... just say that "i heared that....."!
Instead of trying to distroy the good work made by the european engineers, why don't you go to Boeing and give them ideias to build a new model?
They perhaps will thank you... and perhaps pay you!
ManchesterMAN From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 1257 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (12 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3512 times:
Yes, back to topic ...
We don't really have a precedent in terms of judging the longevity of airbus aircraft as none of them are as old as the likes of the DC9. We could look at the early A300 and say there aren't many of these around (with pax carriers anyway) but I suspect that is as much to do with poor payload / range capabilities of these early aircraft and suspect economies rather than the physical condition of the aircraft.
Only time will tell whether the A320s last as long as some 737s / dc9s but I'm sure replacing these aircraft is the last thing NW fleet planners are thinking of at the moment. I'd say they've got 10 years before they even need to think about this and given NWs form maybe a little longer.
Scbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 15373 posts, RR: 45
Reply 15, posted (12 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 3423 times:
We could look at the early A300 and say there aren't many of these around (with pax carriers anyway) but I suspect that is as much to do with poor payload / range capabilities of these early aircraft and suspect economies rather than the physical condition of the aircraft.
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Flyguyclt From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 537 posts, RR: 8
Reply 16, posted (12 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 3372 times:
This is a comical thread. I needed a good laugh this morning. Thanks all !
NWA is still getting new A320 and A319 aircraft or at least has in the last year. So if anything. They would replace older 320 with new 320. I was just on ship 3315 (N315US) this past week. Still running like a champ and I think the manufacture date was sometime in 1990.
HlywdCatft From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5321 posts, RR: 6
Reply 18, posted (12 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 3256 times:
What about 757 replacements?
Some of them have been around since before the Republic Northwest merger. I remember Northwest starting to take them around 1984-85 so some are at least 20 years old. I know the old Republic ones went to America West
EAL757 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (12 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 3056 times:
You guys are all making great points...so can I raise this question:
what would you rather fly on, a DC-9 or an A-320? Stick me on a DC-9 anyday baby!
Unfortunately the last time I had the opportunity to fly on one was AirTran's ValuJet days--we actually flew on the one that crashed in the Everglades a few months before that incident...but of course, the plane wasn't to blame so stick me on the DC-9 anyday!