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How To Identify Airlines In The Sky?  
User currently offlineAirtrainer From Belgium, joined Aug 2003, 1557 posts, RR: 12
Posted (10 years 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 7680 times:

Hi all, I usually take my binoculars when I see some contrails in the sky, but except from specific C/S as QF's red tail or BA's blue body/engines like shown on the picture below, it's quite hard to find which airline it is... Ok, maybe I should buy some more powerful binoculars  Smile/happy/getting dizzy Any advice ? I'm sure many of you are used with this kind of spotting... Tell about your experiences, thanks.

Happy Contrails

jef


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User currently offlineHorus From Egypt, joined Feb 2004, 5230 posts, RR: 60
Reply 1, posted (10 years 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 7597 times:

Probably listening to ATC 'chatter'


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User currently offlineGSPSPOT From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 2968 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (10 years 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 7585 times:

I've often had the same type of questions. I live under the airways that flights into and out of ATL use. I know LH and AF both fly A340's into ATL, and I always see one in the afternoons. All I can see is white fuselage. It could be either one, but I'm never sure which....


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User currently offlineWarszawa From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 727 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (10 years 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 7566 times:

I share the same enjoying experiences as you...lol, i live in the USA here in Michigan, and i get a ton of planes that fly over....Probably because i live about 30mins east of FNT vortac, and FNT = Part of the PMM4 Pullman 4 arrival into Chicago ORD. I also get a lot of LAX-JFK, LAX-BOS, LGB-JFK, SEA-JFK, LAX-YYZ, etc. and more traffic, but most is coming / going from Chicago ORD.

Mostly the planes that come over my house are typically 737's, Usually UAL's 733's and 735's from ROC/ALB/BUF. Plus a lot of CRJ's, ERJ's, 757s, DC-9's, Dornier 328's, 738's, occasionally 763's, once in a while 777's and one day i got real lucky when i had 7 Delta 767-300's fly over heading south to ATL. I was amazed at the routing, i've never seen this before. All were within 10-15 minute intervals, heading straight south from International locations. If i remember right, they were coming from EGKK, LIRF, LFPG, LIRM ( There was a 2nd Italy airport i dont remember the name, i had 1 that was LIRF and another that was another Italy-Based airport ), EHAM, EDDF, EDDM. I also get 2 NWA A330 flights that fly directly above my house in the evening, one is like 5:30 or 6pm and the other was like 7:30 or so, both bound for EHAM from DTW. Once in a while, if the day is clear, i also see Lufthansa's A343 DTW-EDDF, but usually thats a little hard to see as its farther east, unlike NWA's 330's that pass directly above. I have seen a couple ANC-JFK's and Asia-JFK's, including NWA's 747-400, EVA Air Cargo's 744, Korean Air's 747-400, and a couple more, all bound for JFK.

3 Weeks ago i got real lucky when i saw Air Tahiti's A340 enroute LAX-CDG passing north of my house. First time i ever saw that plane. I've also seen ( at least i believe ) UAL's new colors 777 enroute ORD-EDDF, which flew above my house too, i think it was new colors but it was evening so it was hard to tell. BAW's 777's have passed over too, but none of their 744's. Last summer i saw Iberia's A340-300 or 200 i forget, enroute LEMD-KORD.

Most may not believe me that i see all these planes, but if you lived near FNT or in Port Huron/St Clair Michigan, i guarantee you you could...i sit at my desk and the desk is right next to the window, and i live in a VERY rural area, on 2 acres, with no tree's for about 1/2 mile, so its very easy to spot a contrail coming across the sky. I just whip out FBOweb, see what it is, and use my binocs to confirm.

I wish i had a good camera. They were all in NNC colors too. All 767-300's, and all Deltas bound for ATL.

I find out the airlines and locations by using FBOweb.com and Area Track by zip code, thats how i find out whats around. Plus i have 7x binoc's that are pretty good for determining the aircraft and sometimes the airline.

Im hoping to take pics of these planes, i get so many flying over, so many contrails, i wish i had a good camera.

I just got a SONY F717 camera, and yesterday in the mail i received 3 Filter-Lens part of a kit that i ordered. Im awaiting a 3x Telephoto lens along with a .5x Macro lens, should be coming later this week or next week.

I dont know but... Right now, the F717 has a 5x Optical. 5x X 3x = 15x zoom, which is double the power of my binocs. Hopefully i can take good long-range pics with it.



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User currently offlineInnocuousFox From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2805 posts, RR: 15
Reply 4, posted (10 years 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 7472 times:

Having a scanner and Flight Explorer dialed out on the laptop doesn't hurt!

Also, you can't miss the big goldfish in the sky! (WN). UAL and UA are easier due to the dark undersides.



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User currently offlineDC-10 Levo From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 3432 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (10 years 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 7412 times:

Most of the planes passing over my house are on their way up to POL which is a VOR. On a clear day I am able to see planes making their left turns out towards the Atlantic Ocean. Most of the time I can't identify them even though I have a pair of powerful binoculars and I still haven't found a graphic flight tracker for the UK.

DC-10


User currently offlineAirtrainer From Belgium, joined Aug 2003, 1557 posts, RR: 12
Reply 6, posted (10 years 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 7250 times:

Thanks a lot for your answers, this is exactly what I was expecting  Smile
I'm lucky today, there's a big blue sky over Belgium !

Regards

jef



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User currently offlineSabena 690 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (10 years 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 7158 times:

Hi Jef,

I spot overflights almost every day when the sky permits it...

My log from this morning:
TK A343 from IST
LT A330 from DUS
TP A319 to AMS
KTHY B737 to LHR
AI B744 from LHR to India
AC B744 from FRA to Canada
RJ A310 to the UK
GF A343 from LHR to DXB

All the registrations of those flights can be tied up with ACARS logs, like the one of the civil spotters yahoogroup. When I'm 100% sure that I got the correct reg, I log the aircraft in my JP (I'm a registration spotter).

For example: I had a look at the ACARS logs of 14/4 this morning. In total, I saw two new frames (4X-ECC LY B772 BG), Israel">TLV-LHR and JA403A NH B744 CDG-NRT).

Of course, before you start to tie up your flights, you have to learn their routings (for example: a BG DC10 will not appear on ACARS. This means that, when you see one flying to the UK, you have to know that this flight is going from DXB to LHR. If you don't know this, you will not be able to tie your flight up).

I don't know where you are located in Belgium, but for example this afternoon, I'm going to look for the CX260 CDG-HKG. It always flies right over my house around 14.30lt. The nice thing is that I hear those aircrafts, so I don't have to look out all the time. It's nice to have a spotting break from time to time when you have to study from morning till evening...

Good luck this afternoon (although some high clouds are appearing)

Frederic


User currently offlineIsitsafenow From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4984 posts, RR: 24
Reply 8, posted (10 years 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 7013 times:

My Binulax 20x50 sometimes does the trick and sometimes it doesn't.


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User currently offlineUal777contrail From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (10 years 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 6946 times:

UAL Is VERY easy to see with the battleship grey paint scheme.

it has a very dark blue bottom and a silver strip running the length of the plane.

I was hunting last year south of Vail and I was around 13,000 Ft and we stopped at a crystal clear lake to rest, me being a huge fan of airplanes sat on my back and watched countless planes heading into the DEN area. I could clearly see UAL planes with my binoculars, and even saw some WN 737's passing high above going north. It is very cool to notice the planes, and a good set of binoculars helps.

UAL 777 CONTRAIL


User currently offlineXFSUgimpLB41X From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 4183 posts, RR: 37
Reply 10, posted (10 years 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 6875 times:

You can't, those are unidentified government airplanes spraying chemtrails. Can't you tell?? All real airplanes don't have engines under their wings..those are mind control pods! AHHHHHH!!!!!


Chicks dig winglets.
User currently offlineRkmcswain From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 222 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (10 years 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 6792 times:

When you're 5 mi. from IAH, you don't have to guess. It's always a Boeing CO twin, ERJ, or MD... so all you have to do is see if the engines are on the wings or not....

 Sleepy

 Yawn

 



User currently offlineInnocuousFox From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2805 posts, RR: 15
Reply 12, posted (10 years 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 6725 times:

Cloud Dreaming
©2003 Dave Mark

When we were young
We all were told
To look up in the sky
And see the shapes
Made by the clouds
And they go wandering by

To picture things
That were not there
Or an imaginary ride
To lay down in
The earth-bound grass
And wish we were that high

The clouds I see
Stream out behind
A silver flash of steel
And they, too, paint
Their shapes for me
And pictures all too real

I see in them
Their destinations
And routes stretched far and wide
A giant web
Or complex puzzle
With mysteries inside

I imagine the places
To which they fly
And why they might endeavor
To leave behind
And streak ahead
And draw for me this feather


I picture things
That are not here
An imaginary ride
As I stand
Down here in earth-bound grass
And wish I was that high

I want to ride
That speck of steel
And visit destinations
‘Till I’ve seen
Them for myself
Not just my mind’s creations

But when I’ve ridden
Up with the clouds
I could not help but look
Down at the grass
And roads and cities
Like maps inside a book

I’ve often wondered
If behind my speck
I, too, a cloud was leaving
And if someone
Was looking up
And he, like me, was dreaming?



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User currently offlineElectraBob From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 931 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (10 years 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 6620 times:

I live just north of Detroit Metro Airport and I can't wait to be able to get outside on a perfect, blue-sky afternoon and try to identify airliners with the trusty old binoculars.

I have seen the Qantas B744 just north of my house on many occasions---flying the LAX-JFK segment of it's flight from Sydney...that has to be one of the most beautiful sights you will ever see...many times I have identified that aircraft without the binoculars.

The only bad thing about looking at aircraft through the binoculars these days..
TOO MANY REGIONAL JETS!!!!  Smile



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