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Cities That Completely Lost B747 Services  
User currently offlineAirAmericaC46 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 590 posts, RR: 1
Posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 5176 times:

I need data on cities/airports which lost B747 services--scheduled, seasonal, technical stops or regular charters.
Kindly post at least the airline, routing, and the date when the last B747 was operated (if not, year 747 service was curtailed should be sufficient); if you have the schedule and timetable that would be best.

Examples:

1. Pittsburgh

BA 744 LHR - PHL - PIT daily what year?

2. Manaus

RG 743 GRU - Manaus daily what year

3. Biak

GA 742 JKT - DPS - Biak - HNL - LAX what year?

4. Mashad

IR 747 THR - Mashad daily What year?

5. General Santos

PR 742 MNL - General Santos what year?


any other cities/airports?









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User currently offlineGomuppets From Wallis and Futuna, joined Nov 2003, 57 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 5120 times:

BWI used to have KLM from AMS. Sometime in the early/mid 90s (I think) they transferred their service over to IAD. Better yields on the loads was the main reasoning i think.

User currently offlineDeltaffindfw From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1438 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 5102 times:


CVG -

AF to CDG - sometime in 2002?

DAL -

DL to ATL or LAX - 1974 (when DL moved to DFW)
Braniff - same timeframe and reason


User currently offlineNjdevilsin03 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 727 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 5082 times:

FLL

TowerAir 747's fll-jfk

Air Canada used to fly 747's in here occasionally was sitting at the end of the runway in the early to mid 90's and watched one fly right over my head in the old paint scheme.




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User currently offlineUal747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 5043 times:

DFW

KE to ICN
JL to NRT

UAL747


User currently offlineDeltaffindfw From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1438 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 5011 times:


UAL747 - JL was a 747? I know from 1999 to 9/11, it was an MD-11. When did the 747 fly here? Wish I had seen it!!!


User currently offlineBookin From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 75 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 4971 times:

Yeah but in a few years, if they suffer a major fire they could regain the precious 747 sevice from one of these...

http://www.everzone.org/down/highaltitudedrop.wmv



B747-400LCF - B747-200ST!!
User currently offlineLH526 From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 2349 posts, RR: 14
Reply 7, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 4916 times:
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SCL/SCEL Santiago de Chile

Once it saw Lufthansa, British Airways, and KLM B744, now they either dropped the service or switched to A340.
Even Iberia flew to SCL suign it's old B742.

Mario
LH526



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User currently offlineTwalives From United States of America, joined May 2001, 175 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 4796 times:

STL - TWA

STL-JFK 1997?
STL-HNL 1997?
Others?


User currently offlineTavong From Colombia, joined Jul 2001, 835 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 4779 times:

SKBO used to hva 744 service from LH and AF but when they got A340-300 the 744 was finished here  Sad

Gus
SKBO



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User currently offlineBartond From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 788 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 4749 times:

Deltaffindfw - JAL did operate a 744 to DFW for awhile but then switched over to the MD11 before quitting the service altogether. I think you're right in that the 744 service was around 1999 before the switch.  Crying

DFW also used to get a Thai 747 and a Lufthansa 747 back in the 1980's...now we get no pax 747 service but for cargo we have China Airlines, Eva, Singapore, Korean, Atlas, and another one or two.


User currently offlineAms From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 1690 posts, RR: 11
Reply 11, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 4741 times:

Maybe ATH does not receive 747's anymore, Maybe some ATH specialist can comment.


User currently offlineRev3oh2 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 141 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 4666 times:
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Lufthansa began serving Charlotte, N.C., (CLT) to Frankfurt with 747 service in 1990 but several years later, possibly early to mid-90's (can't be more specific) halted service after US Airways began flying 767 service on same route. To date, no further regularly scheduled 747 service has come to Charlotte, although Lufthansa just last month resumed service to Charlotte from Munich using A343's.


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User currently offlineLubicon From Canada, joined Oct 2000, 197 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 4610 times:

YEG lost theirs when Wardair folded and Air Canada cut back their routes. YYC will likely lose 747 service (Air Canada) when the 747's are retired. They used to have summer service to LHR or FRA.

User currently offlineMaehara From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2003, 41 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 4533 times:

Don't have full details, but HRE used to get 747 services from at least BA, Qantas & KL.

Qantas was twice weekly (stop-over on the way to JNB), discontinued in 1998.
Not sure on the frequence & end date of the KLM flights.
BA to HRE was 4-weekly at one stage - currently 3-weekly with a 777.

Hopefully someone else can fill in the blanks...!


User currently offlineGARUDAROD From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 1514 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 4513 times:


Re: Example #3
GA operated the last B747-200Combi from CGK/DPS/BIK/HNL/LAX vv in
November 1995, I believe it was Nov 11th or 12th. The aircraft, 3B-NAS,
ex ZS-SAR, was returned to its lender and then converted into a B747F
for operation by SAA Cargo. The route to LAX was replaced by MD-11's and
the routing was changed to CGK/HNL/LAX/HNL/DPS/CGK. We used to move
a lot of cargo on that Combi!!! It was a shame to see it go. On the day of the
inaugural flight through BIK, I have heard that in excess of 25,000 natives came out of their shacks and huts and lined the runway to watch the giant
plane as it came in. They did not have a Maindeck Loader in BIK, so we could
never load cargo for the maindeck destined there. We did one time have an
engine that had to ride on the maindeck, so they found a Fork lift somewhere
on the island to get it off the plane.



Cargo doesn't whine, moan, or complain
User currently offlineSsides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 21
Reply 16, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4393 times:

If you want to go back a bit more at DFW, AA had 747SP service to AA), Japan">NRT in the late 80s/early 90s before it got its MD-11s. Braniff also served DFW with 747s, I know they flew the DFW-LON route, but I can't remember if they served LHR or LGW (I think it was LHR).


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User currently offlineArcano From Chile, joined Mar 2004, 2406 posts, RR: 24
Reply 17, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4373 times:

As LH526 said, sadly SCL has no more 747 (only cargo ones). Last one was LH747 before they got 346.

Apparently when AR starts operations in Chile they'll bring them back!



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User currently offlineScottishLaddie From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2004, 2384 posts, RR: 8
Reply 18, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4355 times:

EDI had a summer charter to SFB using EAF 742s that only lasted a couple of years and stopped in 2002. Since then no regular jumbos apart from the rugby charters we see for the Scotland V France rugby game every 2 years. This year being a year when they came here.


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User currently offlineCapital146 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2003, 2125 posts, RR: 44
Reply 19, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4331 times:

Wardair operated B747's each summer in the 1980's to from YYZ to BHX, NCL and LBA, none of these UK airports receive regular B747 services today.

LBA flight arrived each Monday (non-stop inbound, via BHX outbound)

Think NCL was also weekly.

BHX may have had more than one flight each week.




Like a fine wine, one gets better with age.
User currently offlineJuanr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4301 times:

Gus, here in BOG we have not lost 747 services, still cargo airlines fly them here; Atlas has 2 daily flights on 747 to BOG and sonn Cargolux will have, also I think that Air France Cargo flies here with 747.

Greetings from BOG

JUAN
A VERY PROUD CITIZEN OF BOGOTA
SKBO


User currently offlineRockyRacoon From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 961 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4246 times:

Another CVG one

SN flew CVG-BRU with a 743, before they went out a business. Well the NW cargo 742 is around still, but the damn thing lands aroun 24:00. God it would be nice to see AF resume 747 serivce to CVG again  Insane


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User currently offlineFlynavy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4246 times:

Aside from VS, MCO no longer sees any scheduled 747 service. BA switched 744 equip. to 772 some years ago. Saudi Arabian served MCO with a 744, as well as El Al, with a 742. Northwest and KLM also served MCO with a 747 at one time, also. KLM also brought a DC-10 in. Some proof...


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There are no photos in the database of KLM's 747 at MCO.

SFB receives a 742 from European Air Charter, also.


User currently offlineKLMflyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 156 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4176 times:

My hometown, Bergamo, some 30 miles to the east of Milan, along the highway from Milan to Venice and at the beginning of the Alps, has an airport - Bergamo-Orio al Serio (BGY) - that started as a small 3-flights per day airport back in 1975 and today is the 3rd airport within the Milan greater area and Italy's hub for Ryanair.
Well BGY airport used to receive a weekly visit by an EL AL B747-200 that regularly flew on the Bergamo/Tel Aviv route on a weekly basis.
Once the new Milan-Malpensa airport was opened, this EL AL flight has been rerouted from MXP and BGY lost its unique B747 experience.
By the way, since Bergamo is a small city (population 110.000) the very first day of operation of the EL AL's B747-200, a giant picture of the jumbo jet was portrayed on the from page of the local daily paper L'Eco di Bergamo.


User currently offlineLeskova From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 6075 posts, RR: 70
Reply 24, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 4105 times:

Harare (HRE) not only lost BA, QF and KL, they also lost AF and LH, both used to operate there (going through JNB)... LH later combined HRE with WDH (they even had full traffic rights from HRE to WDH and back), but when the political situation in Zimbabwe got worse - combined with the decline in traffic - they first rerouted the flight from FRA-HRE-WDH-HRE-FRA to FRA-WDH-HRE-WDH-FRA, then they cut HRE out and then left WDH as well.

Regards,
Frank



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25 TurkishSky : I dont remember exactly when they stopped but IST lost: SQ to SIN; now B777 SV to JED; now B777 IR to THR; now A310 PK to ISB and KHI; now suspended
26 ConcordeBoy : MSY featured scheduled domestic 747 service, but of course, no longer.
27 Aa61hvy : DFW has no Passenger service with a 747, but we get a good amount of cargo 747s: UPS China Air Southern Air Lufthansa (flew one to DFW yesterday) KAL
28 NDSchu777 : Northwest once served MKE with 747's. Here are the 747 flights from the December 18, 1974 Northwest Orient timetable. Dep Arr Flight Stops Freq Eq JFK
29 N62NA : Well, just for historical purposes - looking at my OAG from 1976: MKE had NW 747 service to JFK and MSP DAL (Love Field in Dallas) had DL 747 service
30 Klmdude : It was sad to learn that Sao Paulo GRU lost the KLM B747-400 Combi since March 29th 2004. Now it is 777.....
31 Airplanetire : ATL has lost all 747 service not counting cargo, at least for the moment. -JAL used to fly a 744 here, but terminated that service several years ago.
32 EK40 : BHX used to get regular PIA B742 & B743 to KHI,ISB,LHE via CPH although towards the end a few operated direct out of BHX, we lost them to A310 sometim
33 MikeTheActuary : ISTR that NW used to have 747 into MEM. For example, I remember for a while a 747 served MSP-MEM. Given the changes that NW has been making there, I c
34 Nickofatlanta : KLM also used to fly 747s into ATL.
35 Thrust : STL lost 747 service waaayyyyyy back when the TWA 747-100s still were in service. We used to get 1 or 2 TWA 747-100s per day at STL. And what beautifu
36 Goose : AC's 744 service in YYC was seasonal, and only for a year or so recently. Before then.... aside from Charters and other noteable flights, YYC had no 7
37 Stefandotde : How many 747 will be produced a month right now? They are getting older and older and other more modern planes arrived. Ok, the 747 is one of the most
38 Indio66 : How about PHX??? Does BA or LH use a 74 any more?
39 SIA_B777 : Indio66 I believe BA has upgraded the PHX-LHR flight to a 744 (or if not already, they are planning to)
40 AirAmericaC46 : Thanks for the Garuda data GARUDAROD. Interesting story about that 747 inaugural flight to Biak. I hope someone had a film about it and a copy be dona
41 Post contains links and images B747_A340 : GUA lost 747 service when KLM suspended their AMS-MEX-GUA route some years ago View Large View MediumPhoto © Juan Carlos Andrade View Large View
42 PanAm747 : SAN had a British Airways 747-400 flight from LGW for several years, originally an add-on from their flight to LAX. Believe me, you haven't seen an am
43 Cospn : Wow Glad we still have NW and JL in SPN ????????? Can't Belive all these cities with no 747 service, and our Island only has 60,000
44 Post contains images UTA_flyingHIGH : Forget about losing it, at CMF we never had it UTA
45 Mozart : You may want to do a bit of research on when those flights ended, but scratching my head a bit, here are some I can think of: 1) LUX - lost Luxair/Lux
46 TexAussie : DFW also used to get 747s from Northwest Orient (to SFO and on to NRT) and also used to get Air New Zealand 747s from Auckland/Papeete, continuing on
47 Post contains images Mozart : Oh yes, and before I forget it: 34) Baghdad! Iraqi had 747s. I leave it up to you to figure out when SDA lost its 747 services...
48 Post contains images Leezyjet : Can you imagine the day when we can add LHR to this list !!!.
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