AirtranSAV From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 37 posts, RR: 0 Posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3103 times:
You know, traveling through Savannah-Hilton Head International Airport, I notice that AA is missing. Now I know that AA used to fly to RDU, however, now that they have all but left RDU, we have no service here.....Does anyone know why??? How can CO, DL, FL, UA, US, and, NW fly here but no AA??? Thanks
Ssides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 19
Reply 1, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3054 times:
Because the southeast has historically been AA's weakest region of the country. With DL at ATL, FL at ATL, US at CLT, NW at MEM, and even UA at IAD, there's really no reason for AA to be there. DL already flies non-stop from DFW, which is probably sufficient for that city pair.
The only thing I really find odd is that AA doesn't offer a MIA-SAV flight. SAV currently doesn't have any nonstop service to Florida, but to an extent that makes sense, because most Floridians aren't going to vacation in Georgia or South Carolina. In addition, SAV is already a large RJ airport, and AA's RJ operation at MIA is limited at best. AA probably doesn't want to dedicate mainline aircraft to this market, or waste its time with turboprops.
TravisNC From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 96 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2971 times:
Now I know that AA used to fly to RDU, however, now that they have all but left RDU, we have no service here.....
I know it's not the point of this thread, but with ~80 flights/day to 16 (soon 18) destinations I wouldn't say AA has "all but left RDU."
As far as SAV I have to agree that AA's not there because they just aren't that strong in the south. For example, they only have 10 flights/day to the state of Alabama (BHM, HSV), 8 flights/day to JAX, 6 flights/day to South Carolina (GSP), and 3 flights/day to GSO. They also don't fly to Charleston or Myrtle Beach and they have similar O&D as SAV.
Dutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 56
Reply 9, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2882 times:
When AA shut down its RDU hub, which focused on moving passengers north and south on the US east coast, SAV became a difficult city for AA to serve. When the RDU hub was in full operation, AA had 3 mainline flights from SAV to RDU primarily with 727 and 72S aircraft. (Same was true for Charleston, SC) Later, AA tried service to DFW but it really did not work as the flights generally were routed via JAX, so most connecting destinations were atleast 2 stops away. I am not sure if AA ever tried a SAV-ORD flight (I know that UA did at one time) and for some strange reason no airline can seem to make a SAV-MIA (or a CHS-MIA) flight work (National and then Piedmont tried to make these routes work long ago, and no one has every been succesful). As pointed out, the Southeast is AA's weak spot in its US coverage, which is unusual due AA's large presence at MIA. Maybe regional jets will be the answer - something like a EMB145LR could make routes from SAV to ORD or DFW a success.
Cities like SAV (and CHS and other smaller southern cities) are Delta country, and passengers seem to stick with DL even if it means transiting ATL to almost every destination.
BA747400 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 428 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2853 times:
From what I heard, RDU has a major chunk of AA's focus right now. I heard that they were considering making RDU another "Mini-hub" in the near future due to their lack of southeast service. If this plan goes through, you can be guaranteed that SAV service will be on the list.
MAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 34118 posts, RR: 70
Reply 11, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2849 times:
As pointed out, the Southeast is AA's weak spot in its US coverage, which is unusual due AA's large presence at MIA.
American Eagle is planning to build-up a Southeast feed network out of MIA. It has already started with Richmond added in January, and Eagle complimenting mainline with additional flights to Charlotte and Nashville. Memphis will be added in December. Also look for Greensboro, Greer, Birmingham, Norfolk, and Louisville to be added down the line, among others. The flights will mainly be to capture O&D (not hard considering most will be flown with 37 and 40-seat ERJs) and Caribbean connections.
As of now, though, it still won't add any new destinations, but it will greatly increase one-stop connections to key markets in the Caribbean. I have heard Savannah, Myrtle Beach, and Charleston are being tossed around for the long term, but they are at least two-three years off. Those two would be resumed Southeast markets for AA.
The thing with MIA-SAV/CHS markets is that South Floridians in general simply perfer to go the Caribbean, Keys, and the Bahamas. They are, after all, much closer, and for South Floridians especially, good deals and airfare are very easy to come by, since many tour companies, resorts, etc. offer a plethora of "last minute" weekend get away deals. Spirit, however, has done very well with FLL-MYR. It went from seasonal to year-round, and next winter Spirit will operate a second-daily flight on the route.
Hannigan From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 327 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2763 times:
"I am not sure if AA ever tried a SAV-ORD flight (I know that UA did at one time) and for some strange reason no airline can seem to make a SAV-MIA (or a CHS-MIA) flight work"
UA has 4 daily SAV-ORD flights M-F, 5 on Sat, and 6 on Sun with CRJ-200's (DH and ZW). And this time of year I would say about 80-90 percent of the time they are full if not oversold. That in mind, you can also say that perhaps 50-60 percent of the time the outbounds (SAV-ORD) are delayed for flow control also. I know this because I am one of the UA agents in SAV.