Backfire From Germany, joined Oct 2006, 0 posts, RR: 0 Posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 2208 times:
Italy has jailed the air traffic controller for eight years, and imposed similarly-harsh prison sentences on three other officials after the Milan Linate SAS collision.
CPH-R From Denmark, joined May 2001, 5745 posts, RR: 4 Reply 1, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 2184 times:
I think it's a fair punishment.
But, will this have an impact on procedures at Linate? Or have they already been tightened up?
I remember reading something about some controllers, who were on duty, who went outside to play soccer - was that just a bit of media exaggeration, or did it really happen?
Ryanair!!! From Singapore, joined Mar 2002, 4652 posts, RR: 27 Reply 3, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 2123 times:
Wow.... that is HARSH! I would think a suspension... but a jail sentence?
But then again, why were they clearing aircraft movements in the first place in the fog? The Tower is after all, a VFR environment! Is Linate equipped with a ground radar?
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Ryanair!!! From Singapore, joined Mar 2002, 4652 posts, RR: 27 Reply 6, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 2062 times:
Good grief, so they were still clearing ground movements in the fog without the assistance of a ground radar. Isn't this against aviation practise in the first place? You simply cannot tell an aircraft that he is "cleared" for take off when you cannot even see what is outside the tower.... This is really committing air-traffic suicide.
I am sure that the controllers at work on that day already have blood on their hands which they can never wash off themselves.
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Starlionblue From Hong Kong, joined Feb 2004, 15870 posts, RR: 66 Reply 7, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 2054 times:
Having landed at Linate more times than I care to remember, I can tell you it's a real foghole. Sadly, the absence of ground radar support and this very accident did not really surprise me. It was just a matter of time.
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JHSfan From Denmark, joined Apr 2004, 469 posts, RR: 2 Reply 8, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 2006 times:
Fair justice, that's for sure.
A lot of things were wrong at the airport. E.g. obsolete signs next to the runway. The Cessna pilot (not knowing some of the signs were too old) referred to one of them, when talking the ATC. But the ATC didn't react to this fact!
The morning after the accident, I flew from CPH to BLQ with SAS. The mood of everybody onboard was affected by the tragedy.
BTW - two of the victims, a young couple, came from the town just next to my home town (Holte in Denmark).
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Eugdog From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2001, 516 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (9 years 1 month 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 1828 times:
The Milan area is one of the foggiest in Europe - so it is unbelievable that there was no ground radar - maybe the people who allowed the radar to be out of service for so long should go to jail.
8 years for the Air Traffic Controller seems very harsh
8 years is, IMHO, not harsh. ATC was incompetent and people died as a result. If they felt themselves to be under pressure from management to operate in an unsafe manner, they should have walked out.
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N754pr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 14, posted (9 years 1 month 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 1724 times:
Sorry to hear that D-ABZE.
What I dont understand is the pilot of SQ006 just gets fired. You kill 100+ people and just get fired because of a mistake. This guy in Itlay also made a mistake that caused people to die and he goes to jail.....
Starlionblue From Hong Kong, joined Feb 2004, 15870 posts, RR: 66 Reply 17, posted (9 years 1 month 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 1687 times:
It's the 744 at Taipei that took off in a monsoon. The storm was not the problem. The pilot turned into a runway under repair instead of the active (bad viz) and started his takeoff roll. The plane hit construction stuff on the runway and crashed in flames. A bunch of people died.
Ryanair!!! From Singapore, joined Mar 2002, 4652 posts, RR: 27 Reply 19, posted (9 years 1 month 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1622 times:
What I dont understand is the pilot of SQ006 just gets fired. You kill 100+ people and just get fired because of a mistake. This guy in Itlay also made a mistake that caused people to die and he goes to jail.....
N754pr, what is wrong with you? You take every opportunity to take a swipe at SQ? While I am not a know supporter of SIA, I am pretty peeved with your childishness... Keep to the topic, please.
I wonder if the radar in Linate has been reinstalled?
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Starlionblue From Hong Kong, joined Feb 2004, 15870 posts, RR: 66 Reply 20, posted (9 years 1 month 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1601 times:
The radar was fixed, but it's one of those cases of closing the barn door after the horse has left. In any case most traffic has been moved to Malpensa since then.
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Ryanair!!! From Singapore, joined Mar 2002, 4652 posts, RR: 27 Reply 22, posted (9 years 1 month 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1444 times:
Sorry Ryanair but after the anti HKG / CX our friend posted I'll take every chance I can.
Please... if you are talking about Singapore_Air, there is no need to resort to such measures. You are just sinking to his level.... So no more such reciprocal rebutts please.
I'd better not talk anymore before this thread gets deleted.
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AM744 From Mexico, joined Jun 2001, 1689 posts, RR: 0 Reply 23, posted (9 years 1 month 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1398 times:
hmmm... I'm not sure the controller is to blame... the Head of Airport Security or some big guy in Rome or Milan who is not making his job should have been forced to resign rather than jailing the guy... unless it's clearly determined that he broke established procedures or showed incompetency given the training he received. It's more like a cheap mediatic trick that a real investigation to find the real reponsibles.
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