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The TPA Massacre  
User currently offlineGraham697 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 350 posts, RR: 0
Posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2700 times:

Do traffic officers need to chill a bit?
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Car Lands In A Pickle At Airport

By THOMAS W. KRAUSE tkrause@tampatrib.com BY: and PETER BERNARD
Published: Apr 16, 2004



TAMPA - As cars crowded Tampa International Airport's ``blue'' arrival area Tuesday, a man sitting in a parked car faced a dilemma. Should he risk getting a ticket for not moving the car or attempt to drive it, even though he didn't know how to use a stick shift?
He decided to try driving the Honda Civic and ended up hitting two people and two cars.

Witnesses said Carmelo Cordero, 29, told the traffic specialist he didn't have a license and couldn't drive a stick shift. He was sitting in the passenger seat while the driver was inside the airport. Despite Cordero's protests, witnesses said, the airport police employee told him to move the car or face getting a ticket.

When Cordero hit the gas, the car lurched forward, struck two women and then wedged between two other cars.

``The poor boy,'' said Beverly King, 74, who was knocked to her back side by the moving car. ``Afterward, he came out and said `I told them I couldn't drive. I told them so.' It really wasn't his fault.''

King suffered bruises and scrapes, and she was still sore Thursday evening. Her daughter-in-law also was knocked down, King said.

King's son, Jeffrey, said he heard Cordero telling the traffic specialist, ``I can't drive.''

TIA Police Chief Paul Sireci said the traffic specialist, identified in the police report as R. Murray, denies Cordero told him he didn't have a license. The report says Murray stuck his hand in the car window to help Cordero with the stick shift.

Sireci said his department will conduct an investigation.

The traffic specialist, who is not a sworn officer, is on leave with pay, Sireci said.




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User currently offlineGoingboeing From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4875 posts, RR: 16
Reply 1, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2609 times:

Gosh...sounds just like MCI - I picked my sister up last night and told her to watch the cop....sure enough, a car pulls up, a woman gets out of the passenger side, a man from the drivers side, and before they could get to the trunk to remove baggage, the cop pulled up behind him, lights flashing. I often wonder, am I safer being harrassed while trying to drop someone and their luggage off because I stopped curbside, or am I just as likely to be killed by a guy with a car bomb, one lane over, driving a perfectly legal 5 mph. Pure idiocy.

User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6419 posts, RR: 17
Reply 2, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2580 times:

Dude, you beat me to it! Big grin

I was gonna post this.
He he.



Personally, I don't believe the SO_CALLED cop.



Listen Betty, don't start up with your 'White Zone' s*** again.
User currently offline5T6 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 283 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2493 times:

Yikes! They must be taking the geniuses that failed the TSA exam and making them "Traffic Specialists" instead.  Nuts

Pretty scary stuff if you ask me..........

Mike



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User currently offlineNlink From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 313 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2441 times:

It seems like it is easier to follow rules/regulation and not park in front of the terminal and no parking zones. It's not brain surgery, Do not park means don't park which a lot of people have comprehending. It doesn't matter if you like it or not, don't do it. I wish they would even be more stricter with the tow trucks in some of these airports that don't follow federal regulations, you get out of the car and walk off its towed off, no second chances.

User currently offlineTOLtommy From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3288 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2411 times:

Good point Nlink....

Sounds to me like it was a calculated attempt to bypass the law.

"Carmelo, you stay in the car, if the cops come, just tell em you can't drive a stick!"

Woulda been cheaper to park in the deck.....


User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17361 posts, RR: 46
Reply 6, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2390 times:

The Tampa MASSACRE? You have GOT to be kidding me. Do you work for a Tabloid?


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User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6419 posts, RR: 17
Reply 7, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2362 times:

Good point Nlink....

Sounds to me like it was a calculated attempt to bypass the law.

"Carmelo, you stay in the car, if the cops come, just tell em you can't drive a stick!"

Woulda been cheaper to park in the deck.....



So, was part of the plan to hit 2 cars and an old lady???  Insane



Listen Betty, don't start up with your 'White Zone' s*** again.
User currently offlineNlink From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 313 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2278 times:

My point being if you would have followed the law and not parked out there no accident would have occured. I would have charged the driver of the car myself, he commited numerous crimes.

User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6419 posts, RR: 17
Reply 9, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2171 times:

My point being if you would have followed the law and not parked out there no accident would have occured. I would have charged the driver of the car myself, he commited numerous crimes.


They did. Doesn't say it in that article, but they did. i saw it in the St. Pete Times.



Listen Betty, don't start up with your 'White Zone' s*** again.
User currently offlineThrust From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 2688 posts, RR: 10
Reply 10, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2132 times:

THAT IS FREAKY!!!!!  Wow!

I was just at TPA a few weeks ago. Can someone describe exactly where the blue arrival is??? Near the rest of the arrival places, duh, but where is it specifically located? This way I can remember if I was actually at TPA's blue arrival and not near it. Thanks.

Regards,
Thrust



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User currently offlineFlairport From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2094 times:

there are circumstances where you should be ticketed (like in this case, where the driver left)....but if you are driving your best friend/significant other/family member to the airport and go to the trunk to help unload bags (and NOT go to the curbside), it should not warrant a ticket.

User currently offlineAirbazar From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 8232 posts, RR: 10
Reply 12, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2048 times:

What exactlt is the "blue" area? There's a difference between parking and stoping. Can you stop in the blue lane zone? As far as I know, it's in the yellow zone that you're not allowed to park. Do airports have their own traffic rules?

User currently offlineTriStarEnvy From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 2265 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2030 times:

Airbazar, There are two airsides at TPA , one called "red" and one called "blue". Both have regular loading and unloading lanes.

And to quote my favorite movie: "There is no parking in a white zone!" "NO, there's no parking in the RED zone, the WHITE zone is for loading and unloading..." from "Airplane!"

[Edited 2004-04-16 22:35:49]


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User currently offlineTheflcowboy From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 405 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1977 times:

Those jerk off traffic dudes are the reason I dont use curbside anymore. Even to pick somebody up, I will still park. Those jerks are on the ego trip of a lifetime.

If somebody is going to blow up an airport, dont you think they could still do it just driving through? They dont have to stop. DUH.



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User currently offlineGraham697 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 350 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1968 times:

One the title was for fun and I would never work for a tabloid. For everyone else the "Blue" zone as you call it just distinguishes two sides of the airport. The Enlightened People who designed TPA split the airport up into two colors Red and Blue. Airlines are assigned a color and that is where ticketing and baggage claim is located for each airline. There are also Blue and Red elevators for each side which take you to the Short Term Packing Garage.

A Map of the Ticketing Level can easily display how it works:
http://tampaairport.com/maps/maps_ticketplan.html

Baggage Claim: This map will contain Blue Arrivals
http://tampaairport.com/maps/maps_bagclaim.html

727Lover: I was going to post it last night, but I was too lazy. So I kept watching Gayle look astonished.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy  Smile/happy/getting dizzy



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User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6419 posts, RR: 17
Reply 16, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1953 times:

This article gives a better understanding of what happened.


http://www.stpetetimes.com/2004/04/16/Tampabay/A_stick_shift__a_nond.shtml



Listen Betty, don't start up with your 'White Zone' s*** again.
User currently offlineGraham697 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 350 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1930 times:

Of course, the St. Pete Times has a better understanding. (Inside Tampa Joke) I just switched from the Trib and now my IQ isn't dropping anymore.


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User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6419 posts, RR: 17
Reply 18, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1903 times:

Gayle Sierens or Gayle Gurado.



Yes.....I butchered those names.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy



You know what's funny. I NEVER pay any attention to that BLUE/RED thing. I just KNOW where to go, so I just go.



Listen Betty, don't start up with your 'White Zone' s*** again.
User currently offlineFutureFO From Ireland, joined Oct 2001, 3132 posts, RR: 21
Reply 19, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1821 times:

I think that the Traffic officers at both MCO and TPA are power hungry. If you tell them you don't have a liscence or don't know how to drive a manual transmission they harass you to the point of insanity.



Sean from MCO



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User currently offlineGraham697 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 350 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 1733 times:

I think that is at most airports that have Traffic Cops. Maybe they just are jealous that they aren't actual "Cops".


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User currently offlineFsuwxman From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 439 posts, RR: 3
Reply 21, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1568 times:

Here, I do side with the cops on this one, cuz you don't tell someone to watch a car while you go inside. Never, park your ass in a lot. But I do have to say some of these cops at the airports do go overboard at the departure/ arrival area, when they see someone get out of the car to help the person they ar picking up or dropping off, with there baggage. I have run into this problem at KMIA, KFLL, KMCO, KTPA, KTLH, KATL, KSEA within the last year alone. Just getting out of the car is not enough to warrant any warning from the cop (Its a different story if you are leaving the vicinity of the car). I'll tell the cops a thing or two while I am loading up the car... If they want to take me off in a car for helping load the person I am picking up/ dropping off, well, c'est la vie, we'll just have to deal with that if the time ever comes.


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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29791 posts, RR: 58
Reply 22, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1526 times:

But in a statement he gave to police, Murray said he "assisted . . . by reaching inside and placing the car gear shift in neutral." Murray would be the parking Nazi.


Jeffrey King said Murray yelled repeatedly at Cordero to move the car, threatening to tow it. "This young man said, "I can't drive. I don't have a license,' " King said. "He must have said it five times: "I can't drive a stick shift.'

"His arms were locked out straight and his eyes were as big as saucers. He had no idea what to do. This man was petrified."


King is the son of the woman that got hit, interesting that he is sticking up for the driver.

Prediction, lawsuits against TPA followed by quite out of court settlements with cash payouts from TPA.





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