AirTran737 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3661 posts, RR: 13 Reply 1, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 2626 times:
I think the passengers on TWA flight 800 had the worst possible scenario. The aircraft splits in two, and one section climbs another couple thousand feet before crashing into the ocean. I cant imagine anything else that could be worse. At least those people had a chance to make their peace with God.
Nice Trip Report!!! Great Pics, thanks for posting!!!! B747Forever
PanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 9 Reply 5, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2490 times:
Our level of technology in this world is such that we can transport people around the world in a matter of hours, see the wonders of the universe, and cure diseases that just a few year ago would have been unthinkable.
Yet there are still those out there who believe to their very core that (a) God loves them better than everyone else on the planet because they have found THE true religion, and (b) holy scripted rules such as "thou shalt not kill" (found in EVERY religious writing) can be set aside for the greater glory of killing as many infidels as possible.
If the plane is going to crash, it's going to crash. If it's going to happen to me, God willing it will be on the way back from a fabulous vacation. But the thought of encountering the insanity of a Richard Reed trying to blow up a plane because "that's what God wants" is just horrible.
Maybe one day ALL of God's children will grow up.
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FlyingColours From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2315 posts, RR: 11 Reply 6, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2443 times:
That documentary was good until it got about half way when it went really bad. That clip of the Ethiopian 767 really p*ssed me off, "this is what a controlled ditching looks like", they neglected to mention that the hijacker grabbed the yoke at the last second and caused it to crash. Dimwit, not to mention it neglected some other facts, was I the only one to notice that when they were doing the life jacket drill she was shouting - don't Air Transat have the megaphones which come with the aircraft incase the P/A brakes, I could go on - hey at least the CG A/C was exceptional for once.
EDIT: Who the hell is Richard Reed?, I did a quick search and get quite a few images of probably the wrong dude. Heard him mentioned on here quite a lot recently.
[Edited 2004-04-18 18:22:12]
Lifes a train racing towards you, now you can either run away or grab a chair & a beer and watch it come - Phil
Skydrol From Canada, joined Oct 2003, 911 posts, RR: 10 Reply 9, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2410 times:
How about for the nine pax sitting in business class rows 8-12 who were pulled through the hole torn through the side of UA B747 N4713U when the forward cargo door latching system failed at FL220? Eight pax in 8GH through 12GH left the a/c with their seats and one pax in 9F was pulled out of the seat. One can only hope these unfortunate people expired instantly from heart attacks or collision with the wing, stab or fin, because falling 22,000 feet to the ocean would not be the way most people would like to spend their last one or two minutes of life. After extensive coast guard searches, no traces of the pax or aircraft sections were found.
Womack17 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 473 posts, RR: 5 Reply 12, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2223 times:
I realize that as aircraft enthusiasts we are interested in talking about many topics of aviation. I have to say however, that I find this topic to be insensitive. Granted most aircraft accidents are survivable but for those of us who have lost loved ones to accidents, we really don't spend much time thinking about what the worst case scenario might be. For us the worst case scenario has already happened. January 8, 2003 changed my life forever. When I said goodbye to my old college roommate and best man at my wedding I had no idea that it would be my final words to him. As I was driving home from the Charlotte International I heard the news on the radio that his airplane, a Beechcraft 1900D - a USAirways commuter flight 5481, had crashed on takeoff. I pulled over to the side of the road and wept for I knew at that moment that his life had been tragically shortened. The worst part was knowing that the passengers and crew did not die instantly but lived through the horror of knowing that something was terribly wrong. I would simply suggest a little more decorum when posting questions for discussion.
Oh how I miss Midway Airlines. A class act right to then end.
AA777 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 2529 posts, RR: 30 Reply 15, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2139 times:
Im not a pilot, but if I were one, I would imagine these two incidents would prove to be pretty much the worst case scenario:
-Catastrophic destruction of all hydraulic lines (EX: United 232).
-Any situation simliar to the Air France Concorde crash.... simply no hope, and all for such a silly reason; a piece of a DC-10 left on the runway.... its terrible how something that minute can result in such a horrible disaster...
As a passenger:
-A rapid / catastrophic cabin de-pressureization; like the UA 747 where the cargo door tore off and people got pulled out of the cabin.
OPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 17, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 2084 times:
Like many folks, I think my vision of a "worst-case scenario" changed radically on 9/11, so much so that I think I'd prefer to keep any such scenarios private, irrespective of whether they were terrorism-related or not.
As far as terrorism-related scenarios are concerned, there's also simply no reason to potentially give any bad guys out there any ideas/effects that they may not have thought of.
As far as non-terrorism scenarios are concerned, I think most everyone on A.net are sufficiently familiar with past accidents of various types (CFIT, weather, etc.) that they can envision their own scenarios without someone detailing why one scenario or another would be a particularly ugly to go.
Dasheighty From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 311 posts, RR: 2 Reply 18, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 2003 times:
Sitting in your house just minding your own business..Watching the Yankee game Than all of a sudden there is a bunch of banging outside and there are pices of a commercial jetliner on your front lawn and in your living room. Where you just got up from to get a snack between innings.
Planespotting From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3492 posts, RR: 5 Reply 19, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1914 times:
Womack17: terribly sorry to hear about your loss. I was in Washington DC at an aviation safety conference at the time. The day before the accident we met with John Goglia (member of the NTSB). The next day we were meeting with NATCA (nat'l air traffic controllers association: a union) and they told us that they had to delay our meeting an hour because they were scrambling to get people to Charlotte because there had been an accident...we went home to see John Goglia on CNN down there on the scene...it was pretty crazy. I can't imagine how tough losing a friend like that would be, especially after driving him to the airport and hearing about it on the radio on the drive home...
KBUF737 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 779 posts, RR: 3 Reply 20, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1842 times:
Womack17: I apologize as well. I put a post like this up because I have these fears and I feel better if there are people, such as those on a.net that can relate to these fears and I can discuss these scenario's that likely will never happen but are likely on the back of many of our minds. This wasn't directed to be insensitive or leading to terrorism, it was just a way to convey how I feel and worry about certain scenarios as well as how they affect others. By talking about it I feel more relieved, it was just a way to spur discussion and see what others thought. I totally respect your opinion however and I am very sorry to hear about your friend once again.
Womack17 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 473 posts, RR: 5 Reply 21, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1798 times:
Thank you both for your kind words. I am sure that I over reacted to the original post. Even though it will be two years this coming January. I understand the uneasiness about flying. A lot of people have worries and anxieties over aircraft accidents and I believe that 90% of that comes from knowing that ultimately we have to surrender control to a total stranger who is going to take us 25,000 feet in the air and bang around in the clouds at 500+ miles per hour. We all have to rely on absolute trust to maintain our sanity. Please continue to offer postings to the board. Your input is valuable.
Oh how I miss Midway Airlines. A class act right to then end.
KBUF737 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 779 posts, RR: 3 Reply 22, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1774 times:
We take what we can from eachother only to hope that it will make a difference in everyones life. Sharing our worries/thoughts/feelings is one of the most valuble things that people can do with one another and it is often one of the most overlooked values that we may have in our society.