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Worst Case Airborn Scenario You Imagine.  
User currently offlineKBUF737 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 779 posts, RR: 3
Posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2891 times:

What is the worst case scenario in which you have imagined yourself being in while in a plane. I'm sure pilots, f/a's, pax's will all have different stories so it would be interesting to hear.

Mine would be (as a pax):

A "Miracle Landing" situation where the entire roof gets blown off in an explosive decompression.

Being part of a hostage situation

Air pocket that drops the a/c upwards of 5-8,000 feet

A 2-3 hour ground hold.

A 767 replaced by a Dash 8.


The tower? Rapunzel!!!!!!
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User currently offlineAirTran737 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3702 posts, RR: 12
Reply 1, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2862 times:
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I think the passengers on TWA flight 800 had the worst possible scenario. The aircraft splits in two, and one section climbs another couple thousand feet before crashing into the ocean. I cant imagine anything else that could be worse. At least those people had a chance to make their peace with God.


Nice Trip Report!!! Great Pics, thanks for posting!!!! B747Forever
User currently offlineSkyguy11 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2813 times:

No coffee would be pretty bad too.

User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8442 posts, RR: 10
Reply 3, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2788 times:
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I just watched the National Geographic documentary about the Air Transat A330 incident, I think running out of fuel would get your attention. An onboard fire must be the worst though.


After Monday and Tuesday even the calendar says WTF...
User currently offlineIndio66 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 475 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2769 times:

Anything where you know you are going to die but it takes some time (like a minute or so). If it comes, I want it to come fast . . . you know what I mean??

User currently offlinePanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 8
Reply 5, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2726 times:

Religious fanaticism.

Our level of technology in this world is such that we can transport people around the world in a matter of hours, see the wonders of the universe, and cure diseases that just a few year ago would have been unthinkable.

Yet there are still those out there who believe to their very core that (a) God loves them better than everyone else on the planet because they have found THE true religion, and (b) holy scripted rules such as "thou shalt not kill" (found in EVERY religious writing) can be set aside for the greater glory of killing as many infidels as possible.

If the plane is going to crash, it's going to crash. If it's going to happen to me, God willing it will be on the way back from a fabulous vacation. But the thought of encountering the insanity of a Richard Reed trying to blow up a plane because "that's what God wants" is just horrible.

Maybe one day ALL of God's children will grow up.



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User currently offlineFlyingColours From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2315 posts, RR: 10
Reply 6, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 2679 times:

That documentary was good until it got about half way when it went really bad. That clip of the Ethiopian 767 really p*ssed me off, "this is what a controlled ditching looks like", they neglected to mention that the hijacker grabbed the yoke at the last second and caused it to crash. Dimwit, not to mention it neglected some other facts, was I the only one to notice that when they were doing the life jacket drill she was shouting - don't Air Transat have the megaphones which come with the aircraft incase the P/A brakes, I could go on - hey at least the CG A/C was exceptional for once.

EDIT: Who the hell is Richard Reed?, I did a quick search and get quite a few images of probably the wrong dude. Heard him mentioned on here quite a lot recently.

Phil
FlyingColours

[Edited 2004-04-18 18:22:12]


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User currently offlineCrj 900 From Canada, joined Mar 2001, 592 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 2668 times:

Ya 3 hrs out over the Pacific on the way to the Hawaiian Islands and an uncontainable fire onboard.

User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8442 posts, RR: 10
Reply 8, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 2656 times:
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Richard Reed is the shoe bomber!

I saw that Ethiopian crash on the news when it happened, it is obvious it wasn't controlled just by the attitude of the aircraft when it hit the water, very sad.



After Monday and Tuesday even the calendar says WTF...
User currently offlineSkydrol From Canada, joined Oct 2003, 964 posts, RR: 10
Reply 9, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 2646 times:

How about for the nine pax sitting in business class rows 8-12 who were pulled through the hole torn through the side of UA B747 N4713U when the forward cargo door latching system failed at FL220? Eight pax in 8GH through 12GH left the a/c with their seats and one pax in 9F was pulled out of the seat. One can only hope these unfortunate people expired instantly from heart attacks or collision with the wing, stab or fin, because falling 22,000 feet to the ocean would not be the way most people would like to spend their last one or two minutes of life. After extensive coast guard searches, no traces of the pax or aircraft sections were found.

Feb 24, 1989



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User currently offlineRoberta From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 2621 times:

stuck in the middle seat of a 2-5-2 777 surrounded by screaming little brats.

in all seriousness now i think being onboard one of the 9-11 planes would have been the worst. the 2nd one to hit the tower


User currently offlineCalPilot17 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 109 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 2585 times:

Stuck in the middle seat of a MD-80 last row going to EWR when the wing spar breaks at FL350


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User currently offlineWomack17 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 485 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2459 times:
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I realize that as aircraft enthusiasts we are interested in talking about many topics of aviation. I have to say however, that I find this topic to be insensitive. Granted most aircraft accidents are survivable but for those of us who have lost loved ones to accidents, we really don't spend much time thinking about what the worst case scenario might be. For us the worst case scenario has already happened. January 8, 2003 changed my life forever. When I said goodbye to my old college roommate and best man at my wedding I had no idea that it would be my final words to him. As I was driving home from the Charlotte International I heard the news on the radio that his airplane, a Beechcraft 1900D - a USAirways commuter flight 5481, had crashed on takeoff. I pulled over to the side of the road and wept for I knew at that moment that his life had been tragically shortened. The worst part was knowing that the passengers and crew did not die instantly but lived through the horror of knowing that something was terribly wrong. I would simply suggest a little more decorum when posting questions for discussion.


Oh how I miss Midway Airlines. A class act right to then end.
User currently offlineJofa From Sweden, joined Apr 2002, 320 posts, RR: 15
Reply 13, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2429 times:

I wouldn't want to be on an airliner which due to technical problems reverses and then breaks up in midflight, kinda like the Lauda 767 back in 91.

User currently offlineKLM11 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 182 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2396 times:

How about being on the SQ Long Haul's to/from LAX, and shortly inflight they realize they forgot the meals and beverages!!  Nuts

--KLM11



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User currently offlineAA777 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 2544 posts, RR: 28
Reply 15, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2375 times:
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Im not a pilot, but if I were one, I would imagine these two incidents would prove to be pretty much the worst case scenario:

-Catastrophic destruction of all hydraulic lines (EX: United 232).

-Any situation simliar to the Air France Concorde crash.... simply no hope, and all for such a silly reason; a piece of a DC-10 left on the runway.... its terrible how something that minute can result in such a horrible disaster...

As a passenger:

-A rapid / catastrophic cabin de-pressureization; like the UA 747 where the cargo door tore off and people got pulled out of the cabin.

-A cabin fire in mid-air.

-AA777


User currently offlineElwood64151 From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 2477 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2355 times:

PanAm747:

Amen. You said it. 'Nuff said.



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User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2320 times:

Like many folks, I think my vision of a "worst-case scenario" changed radically on 9/11, so much so that I think I'd prefer to keep any such scenarios private, irrespective of whether they were terrorism-related or not.

As far as terrorism-related scenarios are concerned, there's also simply no reason to potentially give any bad guys out there any ideas/effects that they may not have thought of.

As far as non-terrorism scenarios are concerned, I think most everyone on A.net are sufficiently familiar with past accidents of various types (CFIT, weather, etc.) that they can envision their own scenarios without someone detailing why one scenario or another would be a particularly ugly to go.

Womack17, sorry to hear of your friend...



User currently offlineDasheighty From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 311 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2239 times:

Sitting in your house just minding your own business..Watching the Yankee game Than all of a sudden there is a bunch of banging outside and there are pices of a commercial jetliner on your front lawn and in your living room. Where you just got up from to get a snack between innings.



User currently offlinePlanespotting From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3524 posts, RR: 5
Reply 19, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2150 times:

Womack17: terribly sorry to hear about your loss. I was in Washington DC at an aviation safety conference at the time. The day before the accident we met with John Goglia (member of the NTSB). The next day we were meeting with NATCA (nat'l air traffic controllers association: a union) and they told us that they had to delay our meeting an hour because they were scrambling to get people to Charlotte because there had been an accident...we went home to see John Goglia on CNN down there on the scene...it was pretty crazy. I can't imagine how tough losing a friend like that would be, especially after driving him to the airport and hearing about it on the radio on the drive home...


Do you like movies about gladiators?
User currently offlineKBUF737 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 779 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2078 times:

Womack17: I apologize as well. I put a post like this up because I have these fears and I feel better if there are people, such as those on a.net that can relate to these fears and I can discuss these scenario's that likely will never happen but are likely on the back of many of our minds. This wasn't directed to be insensitive or leading to terrorism, it was just a way to convey how I feel and worry about certain scenarios as well as how they affect others. By talking about it I feel more relieved, it was just a way to spur discussion and see what others thought. I totally respect your opinion however and I am very sorry to hear about your friend once again.

Most Sincerely,

Chris in Buffalo



The tower? Rapunzel!!!!!!
User currently offlineWomack17 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 485 posts, RR: 5
Reply 21, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2034 times:
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Thank you both for your kind words. I am sure that I over reacted to the original post. Even though it will be two years this coming January. I understand the uneasiness about flying. A lot of people have worries and anxieties over aircraft accidents and I believe that 90% of that comes from knowing that ultimately we have to surrender control to a total stranger who is going to take us 25,000 feet in the air and bang around in the clouds at 500+ miles per hour. We all have to rely on absolute trust to maintain our sanity. Please continue to offer postings to the board. Your input is valuable.



Oh how I miss Midway Airlines. A class act right to then end.
User currently offlineKBUF737 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 779 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2010 times:

We take what we can from eachother only to hope that it will make a difference in everyones life. Sharing our worries/thoughts/feelings is one of the most valuble things that people can do with one another and it is often one of the most overlooked values that we may have in our society.


The tower? Rapunzel!!!!!!
User currently offlineM404 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2224 posts, RR: 5
Reply 23, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1951 times:
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Having to sit on a full flight next to the guy who runs the website about the 767 rocket pods for 14 hours


Less sarcasm and more thought equal better understanding
User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1918 times:

>>>Having to sit on a full flight next to the guy who runs the website about the 767 rocket pods for 14 hours

Now, -that's- what I call scary....  Big grin

("Ding" "Yes?" "I'd like to swap my seat with the guy next to the mother with the screaming baby up in 12A")


25 Post contains images Lauda777 : I couldn't imagine anything worse than what those poor souls on the 9-11 flights felt especially the 2nd aircraft to hit the tower the fact they would
26 COIAHLGW : FlyingColours - I believe the correct spelling is Richard Reid. You will then find the information you are looking for.
27 L-188 : Gary Larson did a "Far Side" cartoon one time. Had this two pilots in a cockpit looking straight ahead into a cloud bank. You couldn't see anything bu
28 Biggles20 : Hi All, Worst case scenario: Wing being sheared in half, (I can't remember the example, but its happened once or twice in flight due to heavy turbulen
29 MYT332 : Two words BROKEN IFE
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