Redtailmsp From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 206 posts, RR: 2 Reply 3, posted (9 years 7 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 5175 times:
NWA's DC9-10s will not be painted, all other fleets will be. The freighters will in time have the new tail colors and presumably some change to the fuselage too (with regards the non-painted fuselages that is). Too bad about the DC9-10 - I think the shortened fuselage would look good. I don't know about the Mesaba Saabs, but the ARJs will be painted - and some of them REALLY need it too.
Jetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7366 posts, RR: 51 Reply 4, posted (9 years 7 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 5154 times:
For NW, I can say that the DC9-10 won't be repainted in the new colors. I would guess and say that the SF3 will probably be given a pass. Possibly the ARJ's will be painted in the NC. The rest of the fleet has an example repainted.
StevenUhl777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 5, posted (9 years 7 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 5098 times:
I have a very hard time believing that UA is going to repaint their 762 fleet. They have publicly stated that they intend to retire them, so it wouldn't make sense to repaint airplanes that they will soon be sending to the desert or wherever else.
AviatorTJ From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1838 posts, RR: 7 Reply 9, posted (9 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 4799 times:
AFAIK, there is no word on painting any of the XJ aircraft. The Saabs, if repainted, will not have a livery change. As far as the Avros, if NW and XJ can decide who is responsible for painting them, there is a chance of it. It could be possible that they will hang onto the bowling shoe for the remaining ~2 years of service. The replacement of the ARJ will be delivered in new colors.
DC-9-10s will be retired by the end of the year and will not have a repaint.
Thrust From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 2686 posts, RR: 10 Reply 13, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 4584 times:
Now I'm just confused. How on earth can NW create its own type of 757? Yes, NWA man, you've proven I'm wrong. Apologies to AviatorTJ, you have every reason to say the 757-500 and the 757-600. So the 755 and the 756 are variants of the 752. But why did Boeing never talk about giving the two different types of window arrangements different model names of the 752? The Boeing website says absolutely nothing about them, neither does my Boeing book which gives complete coverage of the 757's introduction and entrance into service. Has NW just decided to call them these to distinguish the two window arrangements?
IndustrialPate From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 15, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 4568 times:
How on earth can NW create its own type of 757?
They didn't. The 5500 and 5600 designations refer to the ship numbers (as described in my posting above); NW's internal code for these a/c is 755 for the former and 756 for the latter. It's just internal coding only.
Dc8jet From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 321 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 4509 times:
Thrust I wasn't being sarcastic, I had never heard those terms used before. I was sitting here going thru all of my 757 info trying to figure out what the heck they were. Thanks NWA Man for setting us straight!
NWA Man From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1828 posts, RR: 13 Reply 19, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 4463 times:
It's the other way around. The 5500 series a/c are the 33 original deliveries (1985-1988) whereas the 5600 series are the newer deliveires (1995-1996 and 2001-2002).
Damn, I told you this can get confusing!
Here's what threw me off... I remembered flying on newer 75s and seeing that the aircraft was a 757-5600. So logically, I thought that meant 755, instead of 756. Thanks for the directions back to the right path.
The easy way to tell what type you're on... if you walk into the plane at 2L, take a look to your left (hopefully you'll be going that way anyways). If you see two rows of Y seats, it's a 755. If you see First Class, it's a 756.
edited to add: Nothing personal to Thrust either... I screwed up in my post too. Happens to the best of us.
Isitsafenow From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4984 posts, RR: 25 Reply 20, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 4386 times:
The AVROS will be repainted in the silver bullet scheme. The planes belong to NW and are leased to Mesaba. I watch NW close and wasn't aware the Avros are to be replaced in the near future. There was talk of parking the whole fleet(36 planes) just before the deadline of the Mesaba pilot possible strike but that's history now.
If two people agree on EVERYTHING, then one isn't necessary.
AviatorTJ From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1838 posts, RR: 7 Reply 22, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 4255 times:
Safe, as of right now the Avros will not be repainted. There is nothing written up saying whether NW or XJ is responsible for painting the planes. That is why you only see ones with touch up paint instead of a whole clean livery.
The Avros are here indefinitely, but I would not be surprised if when the ARJ contract expires in a few years, that NW finds a two engine alternative.
Hammer From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 687 posts, RR: 2 Reply 23, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 4112 times:
The easiest way to see if it a 5500 or a 5600, look at the coach seating...if there is 3 by 3 seating with no dividers and lavs all the way in the back by door 4L and 4R it is a 5600....the 5500 has 3 by 3 but the lavs are by door 3R and 3L...very simple way to see what you are on...plus the exit's over the wings is a dead give away that is a 5600, whereas the 5500 does not...