Biggles20 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 195 posts, RR: 0 Posted (9 years 1 month 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 3165 times:
Hello All,
I know this topic has been done in the past, but both threads are now archived and thus inaccessible, so here goes another one!
What are your experiences of longest take-off and landing rolls (and come to mention it shortest take-off/landing rolls).
I personally don't usually time these rolls, but I once did on a fully booked B744 from SIN-LHR out of interest. Coincidently, the take off felt like my longest ever (at about 50 seconds) and I began to doubt whether we would ever get airborne.
Interestingly, all my landing rolls have been relatively short for all types (commuter/short/long haul, narrow/wide-body), and even when I've had my doubts about the landings that seemed to float forever down half the runway, the planes still stopped well short with little effort? Is there any reason for this do you think?
What are your experiences? Thanks anyway for being patient with another posting like this again!
Horus From Egypt, joined Feb 2004, 5230 posts, RR: 62 Reply 1, posted (9 years 1 month 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 3115 times:
I read an article about VS flights from Johannesburg to LHR on A340-300s, that took a full 90 seconds to takeoff from the South African airport. The airport is located something like 6,000 ft above sea level and temperatures are very high during the summer (reaching 40 degrees celcius some days)
IBERIA747 From Spain, joined Aug 2003, 1825 posts, RR: 62 Reply 2, posted (9 years 1 month 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 3039 times:
My longest take off rolls have been:
KLM B747-400 (PH-BFN) MEX - AMS in 1998...more than one minute.
Iberia A340-300 (EC-GHX) MAD - UIO. in 2003..almost the entire length of Madrid´s RWY 36L (About 14200 ft)
Mischadee From Sweden, joined Apr 2004, 271 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (9 years 1 month 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2926 times:
I experienced a very short take-off roll from ARL runway 08. It was on a SAS A333. The total length of the runway is 2800 meters and we were fully loaded. First I wondered why we didn't use the longer runway and I was a bit worried. It amazed me that we rotated about half down the runway.
The longest one was with a 747-200 in Nadi (fidji). It took us forever to get off the ground. A bit scary.
RB211LTN From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 133 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (9 years 1 month 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2870 times:
When I was at BA the 744 used to take an eternity to get airborne for the return flight to LGW. NBO is quite high up, I think. I really used to wonder if we would get airborne before we ran out of runway. Fortunately we always did! I came back from JNB last year and the 744 took ages to get airborne from there, too. I've never timed a take-off run.
The customer is always right.....unless he is a passenger!
5NEOO From Nigeria, joined Nov 2003, 210 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (9 years 1 month 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2767 times:
I read an article about VS flights from Johannesburg to LHR on A340-300s, that took a full 90 seconds to takeoff from the South African airport.
90 seconds is a bit to extreme for a take-off roll (irregardless of altitude). Most longer rolls tend to take between 50 secs to a little over a minute.
Admit it, you could care less about the continent Africa!
OS-A330 From Austria, joined Aug 2001, 75 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (9 years 1 month 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 2647 times:
BKK-FRA on LH 744 "Berlin"
Plane was entirely full (as the name of Germany's most populous city suggests)
We took off almost at the very end of the runway which is about 3700m / 12000 ft
CPDC10-30 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2000, 4759 posts, RR: 26 Reply 10, posted (9 years 1 month 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2545 times:
No one believes me when I say this, but I'll say it again anyways. My longest takeoff roll was on a CP 737-200 YYC-YYJ, a very short flight of 394 nm in August 1997. The takeoff roll lasted aprox. 1min 10sec and after the rotation I could not see the runway. The temperature that day was aprox 32C and the flight was completely full...but then again YYC I believe has the longest runway in Canada (14,000ft?).
The shortest roll I have had on a commercial aircraft was 15 sec on a Dash 8-100 YTZ-YOW in Oct 2002.
The shortest roll on a passenger jet was an AC 737-200 YYZ-YOW in Sept 2002, lasted about 25 sec.
Pr1268 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 232 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (9 years 1 month 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2478 times:
I remember IAH-BWI in a CO MD80 several years back - we were almost on the West piano keys of runway 26(L) of IAH before we were airborne. 9400' / 2865m
Also on CO, SFO-IAH in a 733 we used less than 4000' / 1219m of 28L. And that's a 3 1/2 hour flight! My more recent AUS-BWI on WN (last summer) was 7500' or so of 17L (9000' / 2743m). I wondered how WN might have accomplished that at the "old" AUS (Robert Mueller Muni) with its 7269' / 2215m back before the new Bergstrom Int'l was complete.
Is it just me, or do others like monitoring the 1000' markers as they pass by during t/o or landing?
The only time an aircraft has too much fuel is when it is on fire.
Hodges From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 138 posts, RR: 4 Reply 12, posted (9 years 1 month 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2429 times:
The shortest take-off roll was on a Colgan Air Beech 1900C at ITH headed for LGA. Must have only lasted a little less than 10 seconds. The pilots advanced the throttle and held the brakes in for a few seconds. The only reason I can think of for this is because it was a rainy day and the pilots wanted to stay on the runway for as short a time as possible to avoid hydroplaning. Oh, and it was my first time flying alone, and it was awesome!
Trey From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 250 posts, RR: 5 Reply 13, posted (9 years 1 month 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2389 times:
ATL-JNB on SAA back in June 2001. Fully loaded 747. Pilot even said it would be a long roll, and i think we used just about all of the runway. Seemed like it at least.
Aa61hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13975 posts, RR: 59 Reply 15, posted (9 years 1 month 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2313 times:
BOM-LHR BA742.
The take off roll was a shade under a minute. It was pretty sweet though, those RB211's sounded real nice.
Usatoeze From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 358 posts, RR: 2 Reply 17, posted (9 years 1 month 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2303 times:
Among the shortest takeoffs I have had was a Finnair MD11 with only 60 people on it from JFK to HEL. Felt like we were riding a rocket, but the absolute fastest was a ACA(DL) Dornier 328 Jet CVG-TOL in February.
The slowest was a fully loaded(Pax plus im sure some cargo) AA 763 EZE-JFK on New Years Eve.
Another horribly slow takeoff was a US Air 321 LAX-PIT redeye during the summer. It was fully loaded and as we tookoff towards the Pacific we used almost all of the runway before going out over the Pacific.
Pr1268 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 232 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (9 years 1 month 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2173 times:
I do realize this is a cargo a/c, but while we're on the topic, does anyone have a similar pax flight t/o similar to this at the old Kai Tak? Or Kansai? London City? SFO 1L/1R?
FlyingNanook From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 830 posts, RR: 13 Reply 19, posted (9 years 1 month 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2105 times:
I'm not too sure about the longest take-off roll but my shortest (non-prop plane) take-off roll was on an AS 737-200 combi which was configured all passenger and was about 1/4 full. (Which would be about 30 passengers). Also since we were only going from FAI-ANC, the plane didn't need much fuel loaded on. Anyways, we were on a very light plane with pretty powerful engines. The take-off roll seemed like maybe 15 seconds long. It was much shorter than I'm used to when flying on the combis.
Incidentally, when we were approaching ANC, we were a little too high and a little too fast so just before we were over the runway, the pilots deployed the spoilers and the plane dropped like a rock for a second. That was scary.
Aa61hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13975 posts, RR: 59 Reply 20, posted (9 years 1 month 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1998 times:
I also witnessed the longest take off roll of my life in HKG, it was a KLM Asia 744, fully loaded, it used all the runway, I assumed it was going to AMS. It was real hot and humid that day, mid 80's and in July. The take off reminded me of that CX picture up above
Spoon04 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 180 posts, RR: 2 Reply 21, posted (9 years 1 month 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1886 times:
Not the longest, but my most "nerve-wracking" take-off roll was on an old NW DC-9-50 leaving out of TPA on a VERY hot, and humid July afternoon. That mother had to have been maxed-out with psgrs, mail and freight because we just kept rolling, and rolling and rolling.... We never seemed to be picking up speed and in all candor, I was getting QUITE nervous. Finally, the nose rotated a few degrees and we seemed to struggle in order to achieve any degree of lift. Eventually (well after what seemed an eternity) we lifted off and IMMEDIATELY the water of Tampa Bay appeared below us. NOT a real pleasant experience.
Theflcowboy From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 403 posts, RR: 0 Reply 23, posted (9 years 1 month 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 1708 times:
DL 727 back in the day. Took off on 18R and still had all bogies on the ground as we passed the south end of terminal F. Started to practice reaching for my life preserver after that one.
Pr1268 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 232 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (9 years 1 month 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1644 times:
Charles Lindbergh might've been kinda nervous when taking the Ryan XP-1 off from Roosevelt Field on his historic flight. After all, 452 gallons of fuel (isn't that just less than 3000 lbs?), single-engine monoplane, grass runway (which was kinda soft if I remember reading the details right), 223 hp engine, let's hope it don't quit during the t/o roll!
I saw an amateur video of Lindbergh's t/o and then realized just how fast that "gas can with wings" needed to be traveling just to get airborne. Scary stuff considering that he cleared the telephone wires at the end of the field by just 10 feet or so.
Also, when Dick Rutan and Jeanna Yeager flew that plane around the world nonstop/non-refueled in December 1986, they used 14,200' of Edwards' 15,000' runway and then struggled to maintain 100 fpm climb for several hours. Also spooky stuff.
The only time an aircraft has too much fuel is when it is on fire.
25 ATA L1011: My longest was on one of our L1011-100's from LAX to HNL back in 2000, it took 57 sec from spool up to lift off. It was very long and slow acceleratin
26 Pr1268: While discussing the time of t/o rolls here, How long do SAA's 744's usually roll down JNB's runways whenever they're going some place far (like ATL o
27 Ckfred: I was on an AA Fokker on ATL-ORD. The take-off roll wasn't as long as a 747-400 flying trans-Pacific. But, the pilots did a no-flap take off, so the p
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