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User currently offlineLVZXV From Gabon, joined Mar 2004, 2041 posts, RR: 37
Posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 4289 times:

-Aerolineas Argentinas is to retire 3 of its oldest B732s (LV-JND, JTO, LEB) by the end of April, leaving just two '70s-build examples in service. AR plans to relaunch the relaunch the service to Bogota on June 4 (using the A313), with 4 weekly frequencies, while Peking and Shanghai (via Madrid) are scheduled to be inaugurated on May 28 (using a B744).

-American Falcon has resumed scheduled services, after a two month suspension, from Buenos Aires to Puerto Iguazu, and will shortly restart flights to Bariloche and Salta. WK's operational fleet now comprises just 3 B732s, as the F28 operated in LAER colours has been returned to the provincial airline of Entre Rios, who in turn plan to sell it due to high operating costs. Since February, the airline has continued to operate the daily EZE-MVD-EZE service code-shared with IB, as well as charters. LAN offered to rescue the struggling airline last year but as of yet, nothing has materialised. WK is not part of the government's venture LAFSA (opb Southern Winds), a state-run airline created last year to provide employment for ex-LAPA and Dinar staff jobless since their airlines foundered during the crisis, and hence receives no government aid. Between the AR/AU and SW-LAFSA domestic duopoly, WK operates at a hefty disadvantage.

-PLUNA will receive its second and final ATR-42 in the coming months. PLUNA is offering lucrative fares across the River Plate of US$78 return between AEP-MVD and AEP-PDP. The arrival of the next ATR will mark the completion of PLUNA's modernisation programme, which, in addition to the ATRs, has seen single examples of the B733, B752 and B763ER join PLUNA's fleet of 3 B732s since 2002.

-Uair has been authorised by the Uruguayan government to begin services to Buenos Aires, Asuncion, Porto Alegre, Sao Paolo and Santiago de Chile, expanding the LCC's thus far unsuccessful network concentrated on secondary cities in Argentina and Brazil like Rosario, Cordoba, Mendoza and Curitiba. Uair will receive its 3rd and 4th F100s from TAM in June and July.

XV





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User currently offlineLima From Argentina, joined May 1999, 1122 posts, RR: 14
Reply 1, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 4249 times:

HI XV,

What they are going to do with the classic 737's from AR? Any chance to see one donated to the Moron museum?


User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17044 posts, RR: 67
Reply 2, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 4221 times:

Hkniceguy, Moron is actually a place, and it doesn't mean the same thing in Spanish.


"There are no stupid questions, but there are a lot of inquisitive idiots."
User currently offlineLVZXV From Gabon, joined Mar 2004, 2041 posts, RR: 37
Reply 3, posted (10 years 5 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 4173 times:

Lima:

Here's an update:

LV-JMW (b.1970) -parked at Chivatos in Ezeiza, missing some parts. 1st 737 in Argentina. Retired 12/00. Fate uncertain.


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LV-JMX, JMY (b.1970) -parked on disused rwy at EZE. Retired 2001. JMY still has both engines. JMX engineless. Both in deteriorating condition. Fate uncertain.

LV-JMZ (b.1970) -scrapped 07/2003. Remains taken to El Plumerillo AFB, Mendoza. Retired 12/99. Parked at AEP for over 3 years.


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LV-JND (b.1970) -longest serving 732 for AR (ff. 04/09/70). Due for retirement in the next few days. Fate uncertain.


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LV-JNE (b.1970) -w/o 25/11/92, San Luis. No casualties.

LV-JTD (b.1971) -retired 2001. Reactivated in secrecy during 2003 & configured into a VIP aircraft--BBJ style--for 29 pax. Flies for Aerolineas Executive Jet, averaging 7 flights a month. Usually heavily guarded in AR hangar at AEP.


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LV-JTO (b.1971) -due for retirement in the coming days. Fate uncertain.

LV-LEB (b.1973) -due for retirement in the coming days. Fate uncertain.

LV-LIU (b.1974) -this one is sort of famous...


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LV-LIV (b.1974) -retired 2002. Parked on disused rwy at EZE. Fate uncertain.


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LV-LIW (b.1974) -retired 12/99. Scrapped at EZE. Remains transferred with those of JMZ to El Plumerillo AFB, Mendoza.

If I had a say, which of course I don't, I would preserve JMW (the 1st) and JND (the oldest). It would be a real shame if either of those face the guillotine. The success of Executive Jet however might mean that one or two more retired 732s will be converted into VIP aircraft...hopefully!

Museum at Moron is located at the ex-VII Brigada Aerea airfield in the so-named Buenos Aires suburb. Open 10am-6pm on weekends and national holidays only. Free entry. On show:

Avro Lincoln (impressive!)
Ju-52
Viking T.1
Whitworth
UH-1H
A-4B
A-4C
F27-600
B-62 Canberra
DH-104 Dove
S-55
Percivale Prentice
Pulqui I (1st Argentine jet)
Pulqui II (2nd Argentine jet)
AC-500U
BAC 1-11 (ex-AU)
Mirage IIICJ
Meteor Mk.IV
MS-760 Paris

...and much else.

XV




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User currently offlineLima From Argentina, joined May 1999, 1122 posts, RR: 14
Reply 4, posted (10 years 5 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 4130 times:

It would be great if they can donate a 737. Also as the F27, maybe the air force some day may give a F28 or 707. In fact a B707 was apparently taken out of service and sits in the base?

User currently offlineArgentina From Argentina, joined Aug 2000, 374 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (10 years 5 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 4109 times:

XV:

Is the AU BAC1-11 on show, being part of the museum? Or does it still belong to AU, and it's there just stored?

Bob


User currently offlineDerico From Argentina, joined Dec 1999, 4306 posts, RR: 11
Reply 6, posted (10 years 5 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 4083 times:

Entry is free? Who picks up the tab for maintaining the place then??


My internet was not shut down, the internet has shut me down
User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17044 posts, RR: 67
Reply 7, posted (10 years 5 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 4072 times:

The government? A private organization?

Entry at most public museums in the UK is free.



"There are no stupid questions, but there are a lot of inquisitive idiots."
User currently offlineLVZXV From Gabon, joined Mar 2004, 2041 posts, RR: 37
Reply 8, posted (10 years 5 months 6 days ago) and read 4041 times:

Lima:

-The F27-600 at Moron is 1968-build 'T-42', retired in 1998.
-The Air Force is still using the F28 (1x-1000VIP, 4x-1000C, 1x-4000), but they have very few years remaining on them. I'm sure they will donate one of them.
-1968-build B707-372C 'TC-94'/LV-LGO was retired in April 2002 and is stored at PAL, but various sources say the aircraft is either cannibalised or derelict. Sad if it is. The 4 others are still flying.
AR is not as conservation-conscious as the military. Not one Comet IV, HS-748, Caravelle, 707, 727 or F28 of theirs has been preserved, and I'm not so optimistic that their oldest remaining 747 (LV-MLO) is heading for preservation either...  Crying


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Argentina:

I saw the BAC 1-11 very recently. It's not officially on show, but as you drive in to the base, you cannot help but notice it past the roundabout, behind some buildings. There is no one to really stop you going up to it. It is located in a large grassy courtyard, surrounded by trees. There is no visible registration, although I think it's LV-MZM. The "AU" lettering has been removed, but instead, two neat cherry-red cheatlines have been painted over the original red and blue, with the letters "CIAT" in small. She's in reasonably good shape. I think its used as a ground instruction airframe. All in all, it looked like the 1-11 was given a very suitable resting place after so many years of service. I didn't see its sister LV-LHT, which is also at Moron, used as a fire-trainer.

XV






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User currently offlineLVZXV From Gabon, joined Mar 2004, 2041 posts, RR: 37
Reply 9, posted (10 years 5 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 4003 times:

More good news; AR 1Q results

GROSS REVENUES

1Q 2003: US$119,867,600
1Q 2004: US$191,211,500

Change: +59.52%

PASSENGER NUMBERS

1Q 2003: 1,175,000
1Q 2004: 1,540,000

Change: +31%

And economic growth forecasts for 2004 have been raised to 8%.

XV




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User currently offlineDerico From Argentina, joined Dec 1999, 4306 posts, RR: 11
Reply 10, posted (10 years 5 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 3992 times:

Oops, I did not see the top thread talking about the museum in Moron, outside CF. I thought this was some private museum in Buenos Aires.


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User currently offlinePU151 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (10 years 5 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 3973 times:

It's really good news to see that the airlines are starting to go better, especially for AR since they've been through such hard times in these past few years, they deserve it.

Also good to see that Uair is opening routes to major cities, going to province capitals is a good idea, but the current economic situation simply doesn't allow it. It's gonna get a little crowded in the MVD-EZE run, with Uair, PU and AR.

By the way, does anybody know whether AR is still trying to buy RG's share of PU? It was big news in Uruguay a month or so ago, but haven't heard anything ever since.


User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7584 posts, RR: 43
Reply 12, posted (10 years 5 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 3927 times:

Will PEK be an extension of the EZE-MAD-PVG flight (or the other way around)?


Next flights: MEX-GRU (AM 77E), GRU-GIG (JJ A320), SDU-CGH (G3 73H), GRU-MEX (JJ A332).
User currently offlineLVZXV From Gabon, joined Mar 2004, 2041 posts, RR: 37
Reply 13, posted (10 years 5 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 3898 times:

EddieDude:

Other way round, or otherwise AR will fly EZE-MAD-PEK some days and to PVG on others. They also said something about NRT--don't know if they'll fly that route too...

XV




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User currently offlineXa744 From Mexico, joined Mar 2004, 734 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (10 years 5 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 3879 times:

XV,

Allow me to place the following questions:

1.- Are AR´s MAD-PEK v v, MAD-PVG v v sectors full traffic rights ?

2.- What is this new flight´s market composition to and from Argentina, and to and from China ?

3.- What are the fares being announced ?. How competitive will the pricing be against Malaysia ex EZE.

Regards



No matter how you fly...just never get your wings clipped !
User currently offlineLVZXV From Gabon, joined Mar 2004, 2041 posts, RR: 37
Reply 15, posted (10 years 5 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 3851 times:

Xa744:

In all honesty, you've got me on the first two questions. Antonio Mata hasn't made public a great deal of info about these new routes, and no one seems to know the rationale (i.e. why PEK & PVG but not JNB, ZRH, FRA, GYE, NRT, and SEL) behind these routes. And few know why Mata chose Athens, Beirut, Cairo, Dubai, Istanbul, or Moscow either.
Fares? Nothing announced yet, but they won't be cheap, that's for sure. MH competes more with SAA as it flies through South Africa, so I don't think there will be much competition with AR.

XV




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User currently offline717fan From Switzerland, joined Nov 2001, 2017 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (10 years 5 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 3812 times:

Is the rumor that AR is to add more MD-80's to the fleet true?
Thanks


User currently offlineLVZXV From Gabon, joined Mar 2004, 2041 posts, RR: 37
Reply 17, posted (10 years 5 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 3777 times:

717fan:

Yes, 2 MD-83s are scheduled for delivery in June and July this year, which will increase AR/AU's MD-80 fleet to:

2 MD-81s (1 u/s after wheel loss on 20/02/04)
5 MD-83s
5 MD-88s

Good to see more Mad Dogs coming in.

XV




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User currently offline717fan From Switzerland, joined Nov 2001, 2017 posts, RR: 6
Reply 18, posted (10 years 5 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 3756 times:

LVZXV: Thanks for the info.
I love to see the MD's in AR's colors!


User currently offlineUsatoeze From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 358 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (10 years 5 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 3702 times:

LVZXV:

I love that photo of LV-JMW. Thanks for the repost! Big grin




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User currently offlineLVZXV From Gabon, joined Mar 2004, 2041 posts, RR: 37
Reply 20, posted (10 years 5 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3683 times:

Usatoeze:

You're wlecome! Had it as a background for quite a while!

***MORE GOOD NEWS***

Aerovip president Sebastian Agote announced yesterday that his airline is looking into the acquisition of 4 new aircraft between June and December this year. Agote is in talks with BAe Systems and EMBRAER, and is willing to invest US$4 million, so this proably means augmenting the 6 J-32EPs in service or incorporating EMB-110s. BAe Systems was "extremely helpful" during Argentina's economic crisis, helping to overcome Aerovip's abrupt changes brought on by the currency devaluation.
Aerovip currently serves Mar del Plata, Montevideo, Punta del Este, Rio Cuarto, Rosario, Santa Fe and Villa Gesell from AEP, but is planning to add Colonia del Sacramento, Villa Mercedes/Reynolds (San Luis), Santa Rosa and Malrague from AEP, plus Mendoza, Rosario, Salta and Tucuman from COR, and El Calafate, Puerto Natales, Punta Arenas, Rio Grande and Ushuaia out of RGL. Aerovip is slowly filling the gap left by Southern Winds' switch to larger aircraft and the collapse of Patagonian carrier Kaiken.
Agote owns 80% of the airline, with the remainder owned by airport tycoon, ex-LAPA chairman and current chairman of Italy's LCC Volare, Eduardo Eurnekian. 2003 revenues were posted as US$12 million.

XV




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User currently offlineLVZXV From Gabon, joined Mar 2004, 2041 posts, RR: 37
Reply 21, posted (10 years 5 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 3620 times:

Another article on American Falcon from Reuters:

Chile's flagship carrier LanChile has begun initial talks to buy shares in Argentine airline American Falcon, in line with its plans to become Latin America's regional airline, the company said yesterday.
"These negotiations are only the beginning of a formal period of legal, financial, accounting, tax and provisional analysis of American Falcon," LanChile said in a statement published by the Santiago stock exchange.
"Until now there is no agreement about a posible purchase or any specific conditions set," the company added without disclosing more details of the share deal.
American Falcon is a small private Argentina-airline that flies domestically and to Uruguay.
LanChile, which has a subsidiary in Peru and affliliates in Ecuador and the Dominican Republic, expects revenues to rise more than 15% this year to $1.88 billion.
LanChile has been eyeing expansion into Argentina or Colombia for some time.
Last year LanChile also entered preliminary talks to possibly acquire a stake in Colombia's troubled carrier, Avianca, but nothing has come of that negotiation.
It has said it will increase its routes by about 25% this year, adding new flights to the US and Europe from within the region.
The Peruvian operation is set to grow considerably, with flights from Lima to other Latin American destinations and to Spain.
LanChile, which reported 2003 net profits of $83.5 million, up 171% from 2002, has 54% of the international passenger traffic to and from Chile and more than 82% of the domestic traffic, plus a major cargo operation.
LanChile transports about 5.5 million passengers a year and 424,000 tons of cargo in a 55-aircraft fleet that will expand to 61 this year.

XV




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