Ruscoe From Australia, joined Aug 1999, 1408 posts, RR: 2 Posted (9 years 1 month 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1368 times:
Another thread is running about a 737 replacement, Got me thinking about the next generation seating arrangement.
Personally, I would like to see 2-2-2, This gives every passenger a window or ailse seat. would also be quicker to load. Suppose the main drawback would be the extra 20" or so of fuselage width, and the associated weight.
Leskova From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 6075 posts, RR: 72 Reply 1, posted (9 years 1 month 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1317 times:
I think the chances of that happening are somewhere between slim and none...
I think that 3-3 will remain - seeing that trials (and actual experience gained in service) have shown that even a B753, as the longest narrowbody currently in pax service, can be turned around in a reasonable amount of time, I doubt that any airlines are calling for more aisles in narrowbodies.
AKelley728 From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2101 posts, RR: 6 Reply 2, posted (9 years 1 month 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1261 times:
A 2-2-2 arrangement is not as farfetched as you might think. The '7J7' proposal of the mid to late 80's was being touted as a 727 replacement. Other than the unducted fanjet engines, the most distinguishing feature was the proposed 2-2-2 arrangement.
Ruscoe From Australia, joined Aug 1999, 1408 posts, RR: 2 Reply 4, posted (9 years 1 month 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 1099 times:
Well I wonder who will win this one, the passengers, or the airlines and crew.
I think that the first manufacturer to offer will have a distinct advantage.
Maybe "plastic" aircraft will negate the weight penalty to a certain amount.
With all the competition developing up to 130 seats, the next generation of 150 seaters, may very well cover a whole new bracket of 150-250 seaters, rather than 120-220 and make 2-3-2 attractive.
DfwRevolution From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 5, posted (9 years 1 month 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1069 times:
Maybe "plastic" aircraft will negate the weight penalty to a certain amount.
Maybe, but you still have to worry about added drag given the increase in forward surface area. New aerodynamics could overcome this as well.
With all the competition developing up to 130 seats, the next generation of 150 seaters, may very well cover a whole new bracket of 150-250 seaters, rather than 120-220 and make 2-3-2 attractive.
The interesting thing about the 7E7 is that while the 7E7SR will most likely be an excellent domestic aircraft, it will nearly 300 passengers in domestic configuration! The 757 was seen as "too much" airplane when it debuted (225 pax) so it will be interesting to see how airlines take to the 7E7SR.
I think the aircraft that replaces the 737 must fill the 125-225 market rather than the 130-180 market it currently covers.
RIX From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 1785 posts, RR: 1 Reply 6, posted (9 years 1 month 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 984 times:
"2-3-2 attractive" - kinda 767-200NG? Would be interesting... I still believe 3-3 is nowhere to go. I'd wish only one thing to change - actually, to combine: the 320 width and 737 "shoulder room"...
Sandiaman From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 88 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (9 years 1 month 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 921 times:
Whoever designs the next narrow body cross section would do well to consider changing passenger demographics.
30% of Americans are now considered obese. The percentage in other countries is less, but the figure is rising.
How does the airline/aircraft industry address this segment of the market? A wider 3-3 single aisle fuselage (wider even than the A320) might be well received despite the higher fuel burn.
30% --- that's a lot of people to ignore when designing an airplane.
PS. also, imagine the marketing advantage of having your own armrest in economy class. I can just imagine an airline commercial showing two passengers fighting over an armrest.
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