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User currently offlineRuscoe From Australia, joined Aug 1999, 1546 posts, RR: 2
Posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2003 times:

Another thread is running about a 737 replacement, Got me thinking about the next generation seating arrangement.

Personally, I would like to see 2-2-2, This gives every passenger a window or ailse seat. would also be quicker to load. Suppose the main drawback would be the extra 20" or so of fuselage width, and the associated weight.

Ruscoe

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User currently offlineLeskova From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 6075 posts, RR: 70
Reply 1, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1952 times:

I think the chances of that happening are somewhere between slim and none...

I think that 3-3 will remain - seeing that trials (and actual experience gained in service) have shown that even a B753, as the longest narrowbody currently in pax service, can be turned around in a reasonable amount of time, I doubt that any airlines are calling for more aisles in narrowbodies.

Regards,
Frank



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User currently offlineAKelley728 From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2190 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1896 times:

A 2-2-2 arrangement is not as farfetched as you might think. The '7J7' proposal of the mid to late 80's was being touted as a 727 replacement. Other than the unducted fanjet engines, the most distinguishing feature was the proposed 2-2-2 arrangement.

User currently offlineHUYfan From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 1406 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1862 times:

From a cabin crew point of view, a 2-2-2 layout would be a stupid idea when it comes to inflight service  Sad

Regards

Mike


User currently offlineRuscoe From Australia, joined Aug 1999, 1546 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1734 times:

Well I wonder who will win this one, the passengers, or the airlines and crew.

I think that the first manufacturer to offer will have a distinct advantage.

Maybe "plastic" aircraft will negate the weight penalty to a certain amount.

With all the competition developing up to 130 seats, the next generation of 150 seaters, may very well cover a whole new bracket of 150-250 seaters, rather than 120-220 and make 2-3-2 attractive.

Just some ramblings if anybody is interested.

Ruscoe


User currently offlineDfwRevolution From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 962 posts, RR: 51
Reply 5, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 1704 times:

Maybe "plastic" aircraft will negate the weight penalty to a certain amount.

Maybe, but you still have to worry about added drag given the increase in forward surface area. New aerodynamics could overcome this as well.

With all the competition developing up to 130 seats, the next generation of 150 seaters, may very well cover a whole new bracket of 150-250 seaters, rather than 120-220 and make 2-3-2 attractive.

The interesting thing about the 7E7 is that while the 7E7SR will most likely be an excellent domestic aircraft, it will nearly 300 passengers in domestic configuration! The 757 was seen as "too much" airplane when it debuted (225 pax) so it will be interesting to see how airlines take to the 7E7SR.

I think the aircraft that replaces the 737 must fill the 125-225 market rather than the 130-180 market it currently covers.


User currently offlineRIX From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 1787 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1619 times:

"2-3-2 attractive" - kinda 767-200NG? Would be interesting... I still believe 3-3 is nowhere to go. I'd wish only one thing to change - actually, to combine: the 320 width and 737 "shoulder room"...

User currently offlineSandiaman From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 88 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 1556 times:

Whoever designs the next narrow body cross section would do well to consider changing passenger demographics.

30% of Americans are now considered obese. The percentage in other countries is less, but the figure is rising.

How does the airline/aircraft industry address this segment of the market? A wider 3-3 single aisle fuselage (wider even than the A320) might be well received despite the higher fuel burn.

30% --- that's a lot of people to ignore when designing an airplane.

PS. also, imagine the marketing advantage of having your own armrest in economy class. I can just imagine an airline commercial showing two passengers fighting over an armrest.








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