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First Choice Airways Goes Long Haul From EMA  
User currently offlineDemoose From Canada, joined Mar 2001, 1952 posts, RR: 23
Posted (10 years 4 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 4900 times:

As already rumoured, First Choice Airways will be introducing 3 new long haul routes from Nottingham East Midlands Airport from summer 2005 as part of their expanding long haul operation. The new routes will be to Florida, The Dominican Republic and Cancun.

All these routes will be operated by FCA's enhanced 767-300's which will have seat back tv's and larger seats throughout the new '777 style' cabin.

Press Release from EMA: http://www.emapress.com/site/news/200404/

Mark


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User currently offlineBDRules From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2000, 1501 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (10 years 4 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 4798 times:

Great news for EMA and hopefully we could start attracting more in the future.

Do people think that the sucess of the Amritsar flight has anything to do wth this?????

Which airports for the summer this and next will have routes to the 3 destinations as mentioned. SFB, CUN and POP?

Regards

Stu


User currently offlineTedstriker From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 16 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (10 years 4 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 4752 times:

Good to see the PTV's coming aboard First Choice Airways 767. Unfortunately though I guess they will still have a 29" seat pitch?

User currently offlineJmc757 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2000, 1298 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (10 years 4 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 4738 times:

Ted, the answer to your question is that no-one really knows for sure. First Choice have already stated they will be revamping the Premium cabin, and have also mentioned "more space for everyone". Some people have heard they will have more leg-room than BA and bmi, but until the aircraft are delivered who knows??

User currently offlineEGFFbmi From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (10 years 4 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 4727 times:

Does anyone know if any charter airline will expand it's longhaul routes from CWL?

At the moment we only have:
MYT operating - 763 - SFB x 1 weekly in summer
Air Transat operating - A310/A330 - YYZ x 1 weekly summer
BY operating 763 - Bahamas - 1x weekly in winter

I think a service to CUN would be a good idea, any one got any info/ideas?

Regards,

CM


User currently offlineRick767 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2000, 2662 posts, RR: 51
Reply 5, posted (10 years 4 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 4715 times:

I might book one of these myself for next Summer, having just last week suffered at the hands of Delta 767-300s across the Atlantic for a week's holiday in Miami... I was longing for the AMM 763 we took to PVR and back in 2002!!

If the new planes have bigger seats (2-3-2?), PTVs and especially more legroom then a trip to the Dominican Republic would be great, since that is where my partner and I first met and neither of us have the luxury of going there regularly with "work" anymore.

Will watch with interest, I hope of course seat-only bookings will be available as we like to do our own thing once we get there.



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User currently offlineGKirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24926 posts, RR: 56
Reply 6, posted (10 years 4 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4669 times:

Remember EMA-SFB has been tried before but only lasted 1 or 2 seasons...
But good news for EMA anyway



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User currently offlineTedstriker From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 16 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (10 years 4 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4635 times:

"EGFFbmi - Does anyone know if any charter airline will expand it's longhaul routes from CWL?"

Yes, some very good news for you. Travel City Direct will be operating 747's into SFB from CWL this summer. This is definitely happening and will post more details soon regarding dates & times.


User currently offlineCrosswind From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 2598 posts, RR: 58
Reply 8, posted (10 years 4 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 4608 times:
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First Choice Airways' long-haul B767s for 2005 will be completely different from the current fleet...

• New B777 style cabin
• Minimum 33" pitch in economy, 36" pitch in premium
• Economy seats around 2" wider than the competition by reducing to 2-3-2 abreast
• Advanced PTVs with a minimum of 20 channels in economy, 30 channels in premium

And there are still a couple more new destinations that have been announced to the travel industry which haven't filtered down yet...

Regards
CROSSWIND


User currently offlineRick767 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2000, 2662 posts, RR: 51
Reply 9, posted (10 years 4 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 4598 times:

Crosswind,

Sounds great, I assume seat-only bookings will be available via air2000.com for these routes?

Also, apart from the additional channels in Premium, what will be the other benefits (since the seat pitch difference alone is not huge). Will it be a 2-2-2 layout if economy is 2-3-2?

It will be interesting to see if FCA can make a success of this arrangement, as other UK charter carriers will surely follow suit to compete in the longer term?



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User currently offlineBDRules From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2000, 1501 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (10 years 4 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 4511 times:

Crosswind,

Are these new destinations going to include flights from EMA or will they be just from MAN and LGW?

Its good news and regarding the flights to SFB by Air2000 5 years ago Gkirk, it was due to the stop in Belfast, people wernt overly happy about that and the flight supplements were around the £150 per person while from now there wont be any and thats the reason why it really failed. Also new destinations from MAN required the aircraft that operated the flights from EMA to be re-distributed.

Regards

Stu


User currently offlineHorus From Egypt, joined Feb 2004, 5230 posts, RR: 59
Reply 11, posted (10 years 4 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 4483 times:

Deviating from the thread but I passed a travel agancy the other day and it said they offer holidays to South Africa, with direct flights from Manchester and Newcastle. Newcastle? Yep that is what it said. Can anyone help me here


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User currently offlineBy738 From Tonga, joined Sep 2000, 2293 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (10 years 4 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 4475 times:

Was that not the CT2 AV8 plans which never came to fruition ?

User currently offlineGilesdavies From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 3013 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (10 years 4 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 4413 times:

Will FCA still operate flights to these destinations from BHX too?

With BHX only being 35 miles down the road I was surprised by this news!

Does anyone know if long hauls will come back to LTN??? I few seasons ago MON operated a weekly A330 service to SFB.

Would love to see that back!!! (Well we can live in hope!)


User currently offlineHUYfan From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 1406 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (10 years 4 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 4399 times:

FCA is operating Orlando flights in Summer 2005 from Manchester, London Gatwick, Newcastle, Glasgow and NEMA.

Regards

Mike


User currently offlineBDRules From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2000, 1501 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (10 years 4 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 4351 times:

Wernt the flights to POP and SFB from BHX with TCX??????

Regards

Stu


User currently offlineDC-10 Levo From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 3432 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (10 years 4 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4282 times:

We're looking at going to Cuba next year and FCA from EMA would be great but I doubt my dad would go on a 767 because the pitch is not good enough for a 11hr flight.

DC-10


User currently offlineSkymonster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (10 years 4 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 4254 times:

Will FCA still operate flights to these destinations from BHX too? With BHX only being 35 miles down the road I was surprised by this news!

I'm told that the EMA flights are "stolen" from BHX!

Andy


User currently offlineBhxforever From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2001, 564 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (10 years 4 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 4243 times:

TCX and FCA arent operating any longhaul from BHX this year, although they did last year. Just leaves BHX with MON MYT and BY on longhaul.

User currently offlineA340600 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2003, 4105 posts, RR: 51
Reply 19, posted (10 years 4 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 4234 times:

FCA or AMM then got rid of two 763s last year. G-OOAM and another went, whilst G-OOAL (i've flown on her Smile) and G-OOAN remained.

I flew G-OOAL on a 1hr 30 min flight to Salzburg. I found that the A321 with FCA was MUCH comfier, with leather seats and more legroom. The 763 seats were VERY cramped and cloth, but still FCA are the best Charter in my opinion

Cheers

Sam Smile



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User currently offlineFLYtoEGCC From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 947 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (10 years 4 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 4232 times:

"We're looking at going to Cuba next year and FCA from EMA would be great but I doubt my dad would go on a 767 because the pitch is not good enough for a 11hr flight."

What, with 33" pitch in economy? You won't find that in cattle class on any other UK charter airline, except perhaps TCX on their dedicated 757s for Canadian Affair.

I'm am going to Cuba this summer and we're going on Monarch from MAN on an A330. With, I believe, 29" pitch and no PTVs. Ouch.



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User currently offlineFLYtoEGCC From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 947 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (10 years 4 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 4210 times:

Sam - or anybody else who might know:

What was the fourth 767 in the FCA fleet? As far as I knew there were only G-OOAL, -AM, and -AN. And does that mean they're doing all their long-haul business this summer with only -AL and -AN? Or are they getting something in on lease?

Cheers
Ben



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User currently offlineDemoose From Canada, joined Mar 2001, 1952 posts, RR: 23
Reply 22, posted (10 years 4 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 4204 times:

FlytoEGCC,

First Choice are to take delivery of 3 more 767-300ER's, ex Vietnam Airlines, from Summer 2005 which will have a the modified cabin as mentioned previously.

I'm not sure what is going to happen to the existing 767's, G-OOAN and G-OOAL. Will they be fitted with the modified cabin, will they even remain in the FCA fleet? I'm sure we'll find out soon.

(Edit just to add that the 'fourth' 767 in AMM's fleet was G-OOAO, ex UK Leisure)

Mark

[Edited 2004-04-24 02:15:11]


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User currently offlineFLYtoEGCC From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 947 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (10 years 4 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 4173 times:

Cheers, Mark, that explains it. I thought UKL only had one 767 when they were integrated into AMM.

Once again, a question open to anyone who might know: will the EMA-based aircraft be one of the ex-Vietnams? Or will they go elsewhere, and the EMA aircraft will be transferred from a current base such as MAN/LGW? Would be useful to know in case we fly with them from EMA next year!

Cheers
Ben



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User currently offlineTs-ior From Tunisia, joined Oct 2001, 3462 posts, RR: 6
Reply 24, posted (10 years 4 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 4151 times:


Could Carribean destinations or Kenya be reached by B757-200ER ?


25 777ER : Would extra fuel tanks be an option for First Choice on its planes. Then they could fly longer routes with the current planes and not have to introudu
26 FLYtoEGCC : 777ER I'm not sure, but I doubt it. UK charters tend operate very full (particularly the long-hauls), so I doubt they'd be able to carry a lot of extr
27 GKirk : Think the long haul flights will be operated by LGW or MAN based a.c Also heard they may be operated on a fortnightly basis, with flights on other wee
28 Horus : Any chance of a charter airline beginning flights to Egypt from EMA? Apparently Glasgow and Newcastle will get flights to Egypt later this year
29 Jmc777 : Bhxforever, TCX are in fact operating longhaul from BHX this summer to a number of Canadian destinations, on behalf of Canadian Affairs.... Hats off t
30 BDRules : Where did you hear about making them fortnightly???? They would only be able to offer fortnightly flights from EMA and Robin Hood and not weekly fligh
31 Demoose : I heard fortnightly mentioned when they reported it on BBC East Midlands news, it wouldn't suprise me if they got it wrong!
32 GKirk : What I meant to say was, one week they would operate from EMA, the next week from Robin Hood, etc etc Read that on Pprune somewhere, although no idea
33 Demoose : Well Sanford is appearing as weekly for sure: Departs EMA 1100 Thursday Arrives SFB 1520 Departs SFB 1650 Arrive EMA 0600 Friday Can't find the schedu
34 BDRules : They couldnt really do that unless they were only offering 2 week holidays only from EMA! Stu
35 Demoose : It does happen, I know Monarch's long haul schedule from MAN last summer was only once fortnightly to most destinations.
36 Demoose : First Choice have published their schedules for the EMA flights: Orlando Sanford will operate weekly every thursday departing at the times mentioned i
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