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Alpa Congratulates Itself On HP's Profit  
User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17777 posts, RR: 46
Posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 1622 times:

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/040421/dcw089_1.html

Is it just me or is something off about this press release? Was management out on vacation the whole time the airline turned around?


E pur si muove -Galileo
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User currently offlineSsides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 21
Reply 1, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 1566 times:

There is no doubt that the sacrifices made by HP's labor groups played a huge and indispensable role in turning the airline around and making it profitable. However, a $1.2 million 1st-quarter profit, while remarkable, doesn't make up for $62 million losses, and it sure doesn't justify significant pay raises in the future. This press release is completely out of line, and will not make labor relations at HP any better in the future. I find it way to provocative.


"Lose" is not spelled with two o's!!!!
User currently offlineONT 737 From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 591 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 1528 times:

"Now that our new contract is in place, we are making steady gains, but ALPA will continue the fight to ensure that ALL employees -- not just management -- enjoy their fair share of the airline's success."

Something about that statement is a little unnerving to me. The airline is not out of the woods yet; HP is only marginally profitable. (wasn't it only $0.01 per share) It sounds like they will be asking for more in the not too distant future....

Regardless, HP has done a great job returning back into the black and they have some good things going on over there. It can't be easy sharing your 2 hubs with Southwest.



"The world is run by C students"-Harry Truman
User currently offlineSydscott From Australia, joined Oct 2003, 3134 posts, RR: 20
Reply 3, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 1507 times:


"As the company grows and prospers, we hope that management always remembers that it's our hard work that keeps America West strong."

Management does nothing of course and does not deserve to be rewarded. Neither do the stockholders, Flight Attendants, Maintenance or any other worker or investor. It's all about the Pilots and their sacrifices.

"We demand the respect and the rewards that come from flying for one of the nation's top 10 airlines."

In other words now that you've made a pathetically small profit its time for us to make full on wage demands to ensure that profits dont go any higher.

This guy is a joke. He should have a look at US Airways cost structure and not try to screw his airline and, consequently, his own career. Unless he wants to work for less money and benefits at Southwest??


User currently offlineSsides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 21
Reply 4, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week ago) and read 1483 times:

I understand the need for unions, I don't necessarily sympathize with them in most cases, but I undersand their position on certain issues. Something like this, however, makes me want to lobby for a law that all airlines have to go unionless. I don't think there's any doubt that the industry would be much healthier.


"Lose" is not spelled with two o's!!!!
User currently offlineJeff G From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 442 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (10 years 7 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1449 times:

Unless he wants to work for less money and benefits at Southwest??

An AWA pilot would have better pay and benefits at Southwest. I'm not defending the press release, just sayin'.


User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17777 posts, RR: 46
Reply 6, posted (10 years 7 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1413 times:

I've never seen anything like it. Have you ever heard management thank themselves? Every sentence they speak starts with "Thanks to our wonderful employees...". Talk about chutzpah, ALPA.


E pur si muove -Galileo
User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (10 years 7 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1404 times:

This smacks of a press guide CO pilots released a few years back, during negotiations, that was entitled "The Remarkable Turnaround of Continental, and the 5000 CO Pilots Who Made It Happen." (No lie).

Pilots, as much as we need them, can be an arrogant, pampered bunch, thinking that they're the straw that stirs the drink, when that's not the case. What the HP pilots say now ,and what the CO pilots said then, are a slap in the face-and a deliberate one-to everyone else, that makes an airline successful: management, f/a's, gate agents, dispatchers, mechanics, res agents-everyone. And trust me, it engenders more than a little bitterness form other work groups.


User currently offlineSydscott From Australia, joined Oct 2003, 3134 posts, RR: 20
Reply 8, posted (10 years 7 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1382 times:


I suppose the one good thing about the current industry conditions is that there are plenty of trained/under-employed pilots about who could step up if HP needed new pilots. ALPA can't shouldn't consider their members irreplaceable in the current environment.


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