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User currently offlineA340600 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2003, 4105 posts, RR: 51
Posted (10 years 5 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 8352 times:

 Sad  Sad  Sad  Sad  Sad  Sad  Sad  Sad

G-BNLZ the second to last BA 747 with a Utopia scheme (Animals and Trees) has been repainted and the final one G-CIVN is due to be done this month Sad. In fact it might be being done now. IF they do come back to LGW it will be a shame, no world tails Sad, this is sad, oh well we still got a lot (or not) of 777s left with them,

Sam Sad


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User currently offlineHenpol747 From Mexico, joined Jun 2001, 588 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (10 years 5 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 8079 times:

Those liveries were amazing, but the now classic one is still even better  Laugh out loud


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User currently offlineShamrock_747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (10 years 5 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 7976 times:

I'm happy to see G-BNLZ has finally got a Union Flag tail. I seemed to see that aircraft wherever I went, and I couldn't stand the "Dogs Sh!tting Under A Tree" Utopia tail!

User currently offlineMD11LuxuryLinr From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1385 posts, RR: 14
Reply 3, posted (10 years 5 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 7937 times:

>>>... "Dogs Sh!tting Under A Tree" Utopia tail!.....

 Laugh out loud

Thanks Shamrock.. I needed that!



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User currently offlineAirxLiban From Lebanon, joined Oct 2003, 4512 posts, RR: 53
Reply 4, posted (10 years 5 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 7934 times:

For me, there is still NO comparison:


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User currently offlineCrank From Canada, joined May 2001, 1559 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (10 years 5 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 7883 times:

How many 777s left with world tails? I saw Chelsea Rose 2 days ago... other than that it's been ages since I saw one.

User currently offlineCadmus From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2004, 186 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (10 years 5 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 7810 times:

Weren't they supposed to be keeping 'Chelsea Rose' as the tail design for British Asia Airways?


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User currently offlineShamrock_747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (10 years 5 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 7710 times:

All BA aircraft will recieve the Union Flag "Chatham Historic Dockyard" tail design. I'm fairly sure that the "British Asia Airways" titles don't exist anymore anyway. Not really an issue now BA don't fly to Taipei.

Originally only Concorde was going to have the current tail design with the rest of the fleet having the other Utopia tails, most of which looked awful. It was later decided to paint 50% of the fleet with Union Flag tails, and eventually it was adopted fleetwide.


User currently offlineRockyRacoon From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 974 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (10 years 5 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 7670 times:

Can't agree with you more, AirxLiban. BA Landor all the way!  Smile



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User currently offlineKhushdesi From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 85 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (10 years 5 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 7618 times:

i agree that the old ba livery was by far the best. seemed to fit ba's image very well. does anyone know if any 777s were painted in that livery?

User currently offlineRichard28 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2003, 1619 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (10 years 5 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 7529 times:

How appropriate, G-CIVN was the last BA 747-400 I flew with from YVR-LHR.

I mainly fly VS, however I've somehow managed to avoid the "UK tail" when flying longhaul BA, but I guess no longer ..........  Sad

Rich.


User currently offlineKhushdesi From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 85 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (10 years 5 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 7520 times:

nevermind, i found the answer to my own question.  Smile


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sigh, wish they would bring these colors back!


User currently offlineCadmus From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2004, 186 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (10 years 5 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 7510 times:

The 777 entered the BA fleet in late 1995, which I think was about 2 years before the world tails came in. That would mean about a dozen 777's would have flown in the Landor colours.

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User currently offlineRichard28 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2003, 1619 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (10 years 5 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 7334 times:

I disagree, from a passengers point of view, I was always sad when I saw a Landor plane at the gate, as I knew I would have the old BA product inside (i.e. cradle seats, naff IFE) - they tended to upgrade the interiors with the exterior paint.

For this reason, I've always been happy to see the new livery, but I still prefer the world tails, good old Column was my favorite.... RIP  Sad

Rich.


User currently offlineLH423 From Canada, joined Jul 1999, 6501 posts, RR: 54
Reply 14, posted (10 years 5 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 7329 times:

G-BNLZ is now in the Union Flag tail and has had special "Change For Good" titles added to the forward fuselage beneath the cockpit


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User currently offlineQF744 From Australia, joined Feb 2004, 415 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (10 years 5 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 6984 times:

I think the 777s looked fantastic in the old scheme...

I agree with many of you - the "Landor" scheme looked great!

Well, maybe a BA 'retrojet' in that scheme in say, 20 years!

QF744



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User currently offlinePlanesarecool From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 4124 posts, RR: 11
Reply 16, posted (10 years 5 months 2 days ago) and read 6849 times:

Shame, but I'm not too fussed about it anymore. After all it is only the paint on the outside. Surely what's inside matters the most.

Most of BA's aircraft look OK in the Union Flag scheme (thank god they chose the "higher up on the tail" union flag design to the other one, the other one was awful) -

"Higher up on tail" notice that the design goes almost to the top in the first one, yet only to about the middle on the second one.


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User currently offlineA340600 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2003, 4105 posts, RR: 51
Reply 17, posted (10 years 5 months 2 days ago) and read 6725 times:

Stephen the older Union Flag painted aircraft tend to have the lower one. Most of the 735s do as they were painted into the scheme quite early. here are still quite a few 777s left (Most LGW based Smile Smile Smile)

Thinking off of the top of my head,

G-VIIA - Waves of the City
G-VIIK - Animals and trees
G-VIIM - Waves and Cranes
G-VIIN - Can't remeber but something
G-VIIO - Chelsea Rose
G-VIIP - Colum (there ya go Richard28 Laugh out loud)
G-VIIR- Tartan (yay!!!)
G-VIIS - English Rose (again tehe  Laugh out loud)
G-VIIU - Not sure LHR based
G-RAES - Deftblue Daybreak LHR based

These are just off the top of my head believe it or not  Big grin so please feel free to correct me

Sam



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User currently offlineRoberta From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (10 years 5 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 6331 times:

Ive really never been a fan of BA's schemes, although the tail in the top photograph is very nice.

User currently offlineScottishLaddie From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2004, 2384 posts, RR: 8
Reply 19, posted (10 years 5 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 6225 times:

Another shock horror!  Wow! G-BPEC has lost her world tail!  Sad I always use to BPEC wherever I went. I saw it at COncorde day at EDI.


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User currently offlineGBOAF From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 156 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (10 years 5 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 6205 times:

The world tails are rapidly becoming more and more less frequent, however i was surprised when BA 767 G-BZHA pulled up at the gate for my return to LHR from PRG last month....


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However, as this is a 747 topic, i should mention that my fave tail (some of them were hidious) was this one, worn by G-BNLS which i have flown twice..once with the tail, and once after it was returned to the Union Jack


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User currently offlineKZBA From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 113 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (10 years 5 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 5965 times:
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Guys, G-RAES has been repainted to Union Flag colors.....

User currently offlineSkyguy From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 481 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (10 years 5 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 5850 times:

When BA under Robert Ayling came out with the new scheme a lot of people were stunned and mystified with the new scheme, incuding Maggie Thatcher who doomed the entire scheme during that famous episode when she covered the tail on a BA model aircraft in new colors with a folded napkin.

I was fortunate to come accross a senior BA person who said that BA wanted to be seen as a bold and pioneering airline in the aviation industry. He explained that given the majority of the passengers that fly BA are not from the UK it wanted to demonstrate more visibly that BA truly was not only a British global airline but also lived up to its motto of being the worlds favourite airline. Thus the concept of representing on it aircrafts tails artwork and designs of countries and cultures of people who fly BA was brave and unique, at least in theory. In practice people didn't like it, especially within the UK who felt that BA as a flag carrier should have retained the red white & blue.
I personally thought the scheme was fantastic, imaginative and bold. Outside the aircraft's appearance set it apart from all others but inside there was no mistaking the thorough British-ness of its crew,staff and service.

I'm sad to see some of the older designs go, though it was short-lived I think several years from now it will be remembered well. However, the new wavy flag scheme is also great, stands out and is immediately recognizable. The old Landor scheme with its dull colors was precisely that; dull.




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User currently offlineWolkenridder From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (10 years 5 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 5692 times:

I really cant understand why they got rid of the "Landor" livery, it was so elegant, so English. I used to love that "to fly to serve" thing on the tail.
Still my favourite livery ever.

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User currently offlineA340600 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2003, 4105 posts, RR: 51
Reply 24, posted (10 years 5 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 5611 times:

Guys the current situation with the 757s:

GBPEC Boeing B757 236 24882 / 323 Union Flag
GBPED Boeing B757 236ER 25059 / 363 Union Flag
GBPEE Boeing B757 236 25060 / 364 Union Flag
GBPEI Boeing B757 236 25806 / 601 Union Flag
GBPEJ Boeing B757 236 25807 / 610 Union Flag
GBPEK Boeing B757 236 25808 / 665 Union Flag
GCPEL Boeing B757 236 24398 / 224 Union Flag
GCPEM Boeing B757 236 28665 / 747 Union Flag
GCPEN Boeing B757 236 28666 / 751 Union Flag
GCPEO Boeing B757 236 28667 / 762 Union Flag
GCPER Boeing B757 236 29113 / 784 Union Flag
GCPES Boeing B757 236 29114 / 793 Union Flag
GCPET Boeing B757 236 29115 / 798 Union Flag


Only 13 757s survive in the BA fleet, all in Union Flag images

Sam Sad



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25 Post contains links and images BOAC707 : I think we should look at the lineage of BA if you are looking for class and elegance in their livery. Landor is a close 2nd but this is the best. Vie
26 DABZF : Im glad those "utopia" tails are gone... couldn't stand them! Like the new "union flag" though!
27 Eg777er : Skyguy, you're absolutely correct in that the majority of BA's passengers aren't British, and in fact aren't even arriving or departing the UK on thei
28 Skyguy : Eg777er: I totally agree with you. While I appreciated BA's bold attempt at doing something unusual and unique, it was not particularly practical and
29 Ndebelebev : A340600 G-VIIN used to carry Whale Rider livery and G-VIIU used to have Delftblue Daybreak. Not sure what either carry now as I haven't been to LGW fo
30 LVZXV : The Landor scheme would have looked way better with some toning up: the dark, oppressive blue to a marine blue, perhaps, and the grey to white. Othere
31 EK40 : Sorry if this is a obvious question to some, but I have always wondered why BA had to wear British Asia Airways titles when flying to Taipei?
32 747srule : I really didn't like the world tails,except for Chelsea Rose. I loved the Landor scheme alot.
33 KZBA : GVIIU still wears the world tail, but GVIIN is now painted in the union flag colors. Both aircraft are LHR based, not LGW.
34 Post contains images LH423 : LVZXV: Maybe you propose something like this? This was a temporary colour scheme done to some aircraft just before the switch over from the Landor liv
35 Post contains images BA001Concorde : They should use the current scheme but with the Landor tail (kind of like LH423's picture above). A bit of the old and new. I wish someone at Watersid
36 SpeedbirdHeavy : Why was there a "temporary" color scheme?
37 KZBA : I was surprsied when GRAES was repainted. It was the first aircraft to get the new world tails. The rumor was that it was going to be the last one to
38 Cadmus : Sorry if this is a obvious question to some, but I have always wondered why BA had to wear British Asia Airways titles when flying to Taipei? I think
39 Post contains images LH423 : I too was surprised when G-RAES was repainted. It was actually a friend working for another airline who told me about the change. I remember when I fi
40 Aussie747 : Sorry if this is a obvious question to some, but I have always wondered why BA had to wear British Asia Airways titles when flying to Taipei? Just a
41 Donder10 : Sorry if this is a obvious question to some, but I have always wondered why BA had to wear British Asia Airways titles when flying to Taipei? An issue
42 MarcJet66 : I really enjoyed very much the world tails of British Airways. But I have to admit it was hard to connect British Culture to all those World Tails. I
43 Nethkt : I don't like all BA schemes, they are old-fashoined, boring, ugly!!! But the world tails are OK...but kinda non-British!!
44 Post contains images A340600 : I really think that just the Union brings more style HOWEVER I think that they should have split 50/50, half Union and half Chelsea Rose, they are als
45 FlyCaledonian : BA001 Concorde, I too wish that some Chelsea Rose, Colum and Bennyhone tails had remained. However, as that would have covered England, Ireland and Sc
46 Post contains links and images Demoose : I feel lucky to have had the chance to fly on G-VIIJ in february whilst it was still in the Bennyhone Tartan tail, it now wears the union flag tail. I
47 Shamrock_747 : I think an airline like BA should not have anything too wild or radical painted on their aircraft. The current livery gives and appropriate look - sma
48 LVZXV : LH423: Not quite. My proposal was to leave the DESIGN the same, and even the red line too, but merely tone up the mid and upper fuselage to a brighter
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