MoodyBlues From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 142 posts, RR: 5 Reply 2, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 5108 times:
Rally driving in a 727, only in Africa I guess. It's amazing the life span, different uses, and beating those planes take. Put a Timex watch to shame
Reminds me of a Jimmy Buffett song "Sitting on a bed in some hotel, listening to the stories it could tell" If only those old planes could "speak" and tell us where they've been and what they've done.
Used to love flying Kiwi from PBI-MDW those 727s were neat birds. Alas you don't see them here anymore, except for a couple parked down @ PBI for who knows what reason. Still a beautiful plane in my eyes.
MD11LuxuryLinr From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1385 posts, RR: 15 Reply 3, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 4989 times:
Wow.. Off-roading in a 727! It definitely looks like they're taking an incredible chance of ingesting something into those outboard engines.. You can hear all the stones and crap being kicked up in the last scene as they're rotating..
Caution wake turbulence, you are following a heavy jet.
VS346 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 339 posts, RR: 1 Reply 4, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 4867 times:
Fascinating stuff. I'm bilingual French/English so I'll translate a little:
The guy they interview is talking about how he spent approx. 300 hours flying in one month. His record is 3 days nonstop in the plane. The one 727 TransAfrique owns, cost them $1 million, and it was paid for in one month! For each flight, they charge $10,000. The pilots can make up to $20,000 a month. Funny thing is they never really explain what exactly they're hauling (at least the clip isn't long enough). I think it has something to do with oil or petrol. Whatever it is, it's lucrative!
Virgin-Atlantic: More experience than our name suggests
AOMlover From France, joined Jul 2001, 1299 posts, RR: 12 Reply 8, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 4543 times:
I've seen the complete report ("Tankers en plein ciel") on France 5.
It was fascinating !
For 45 minutes you could see 727s and Hercule C130s taking off and landing on small runways with dust everywhere...
In fact there are lots of those cargo airline in Angola for a simple reason: the war in Angola. There are lots of diamond mines (I believe they were diamond mines) need gasoline to work, but it used to be very unsafe to haul this gasoline buy the road because the country remains VERY unsafe. So small cargo airlines were created such as Air Gemini and Transafrik (the 2 airlines featured in the report) and they haul gasoline between Luanda and the diamond mines who have small runways. There are so many holes in those runways that the pilot has to slalom during t/o and landing...
In fact those 727s are filled with tanks...they're real tankers, which makes them very dangerous since they are "flying bombs" as the pilot says, and his aircraft got shot several times...
Now the situation on the ground is better, and since it's less expensive to haul gasoline by road, the demand for those air tankers has fallen. So Air Gemini is now transporting passengers too, they've put back some seats in the 727s and made them Combi 727s.
It was an EXCELLENT report.
Clipperno1 From Germany, joined May 1999, 671 posts, RR: 2 Reply 13, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3948 times:
Fantastic Clip. Would've loved to see the whole report, but I don't get France5 with my satellite dish.
I always looked at those here at a.net and marveled what this kind of ops must be like, how the companies are build up and where the pilots of these babies come from.
I'd love to learn much, much more about central- and west-african commercial aviation as it has always fascinated me how airline operation are done in this part of the world.
I've got two questions for the professionals here:
Are these tanker-palettes custom made to fit into the maindeck of the a/c?
Does anybody know of a supplier for these palettes?
Is that the 'Stick-shaker' you hear at the end when the 727 lifts off? Kind of funny as the captain clearly calls out 'positive climb' while you can hear that sound, indicating a stall warning, which would be quite reasonable given the short takeoff run.
I like that metaphor by member MoodyBlues....I mean if this aircraft could talk..looks like an ex-AA 727, so not too many years ago it was probably still busy flying out of DFW day in and day out and now runs down gravel roads for takeoff.....
"I really don't know one plane from the other. To me they are just marginal costs with wings."Ã¯Â¿Â½ Alfred Kahn, 1977
AOMlover From France, joined Jul 2001, 1299 posts, RR: 12 Reply 16, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3691 times:
Good news CPH-R, it'll be repeated but you should check it too because maybe the version of France5 you receive isn't exactly the same as the one we receive here.
But if it's the same, "Tankers en plein ciel" will be broadcasted again on April 25th at 03:00 AM (yes, AM) and on April the 30th at 2h09 AM.
Good luck !