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NWA World Class Or Korean First?  
User currently offlineAmirs From Israel, joined Dec 2003, 1333 posts, RR: 4
Posted (10 years 6 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2855 times:

Which class would you rather fly on NWA World or Korean First. I have the option to fly either this coming up September to HKG.
Let me know.

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User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7592 posts, RR: 42
Reply 1, posted (10 years 6 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2812 times:

I have never been on any of them but I believe that KE is upgrading its upper-classes in order to offer a truly premium product. I am sure you can find more info on this here in a.net or in KE's website. If you can get a ticket on the new KE's first class in September, I would definitely try it.


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User currently offlineORDagent From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 823 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (10 years 6 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2778 times:

I have flown on KE in business class and the service was VERY nice. The food was good and the seats comfortable. It wasn't top tear but still of a world standard. The other advantage is the connection in ICN. That airport is one of the nicest I have ever been in. The KE lounges are spectacular with huge vistas of the airfield. That alone made it worth my while to take KE as opposed to connecting in MSP or DTW on NW

User currently offlineAmirs From Israel, joined Dec 2003, 1333 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (10 years 6 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2592 times:

1. fly with nwa would be direct via narita.
2. I dont think KE will have new first class by september.


User currently offlinePhilsquares From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (10 years 6 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2564 times:

For what it's worth, I'd fly NWA over KE any day of the week. I have actually flown on both transpacific and I'd say NWA is one up on KE. However, there are other reasons I'd fly NWA vs. KE.

User currently offlineAirxLiban From Lebanon, joined Oct 2003, 4513 posts, RR: 53
Reply 5, posted (10 years 6 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2549 times:

i would rather swim across the pacific rather than fly on Korean Air...*dons flamesuit*


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User currently offlineMusapapaya From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 1093 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (10 years 6 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2442 times:

i think service on KE is bad... if u want to get a korean pplane, why not have a try on asiana? seems much nicer... though i dont know if asiana is in your place...


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User currently offlineAmirs From Israel, joined Dec 2003, 1333 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (10 years 6 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2352 times:

You guys are saying that Business Class on NWA is better than FIRST CLASS on Korean?

User currently offlineChinaeastern From China, joined Apr 2004, 348 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (10 years 6 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2331 times:

i'm not saying anything, but i would never like to fly KE, why not OZ if u have to go via ICN?

User currently offlineUN_B732 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 4289 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (10 years 6 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2278 times:

Has anyone here actually flown KE F?
I would post over on flyertalk.com
-Mr. X



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User currently offlineUNITED777300 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 131 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (10 years 6 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2235 times:

NWA's WorldBuisness Class product is not a true Buisness class, nor is it a tur first class. It's more of a hybrid of the two. NWA did this because they feel that thus way they can make more money with only two classes.


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User currently offlineHoons90 From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 3036 posts, RR: 52
Reply 11, posted (10 years 6 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2223 times:
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I wonder if anyone here who bashes KE actually flew on Korean Air before.

Can only speak for KE business class, the service, catering and comfort is at near top level.

[Edited 2004-04-25 15:31:44]


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User currently offlineFlykal From Australia, joined Sep 2003, 442 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (10 years 6 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2205 times:

i would rather swim across the pacific rather than fly on Korean Air...*dons flamesuit*

Geez and isn't that funny AirxLiban, we have a few of your Lebanese countrymen who often pilot Korean jets across the pacific. Must say these days I would much rather fly with them than touch a MEA aircraft.


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Anyhow, enough of the passionate comments (from all sides)...


Amirs - where would you be originating your journey from?? This may determine exactly what aircraft type you would get and the configuration. It is true that the upgrade is coming (too slowly I believe), but it would not be ready by September this year. Some cities also offer a "P" class which is listed as higher than "F", due to the configuration 12P versus 16F on a 744 for example.

As a KE contract employee for the last four years, I have of course flown Premium, First, Business and Economy hundreds of times now, but it would be helpful to know your planned starting city before I comment further.

Cheers.



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User currently offlineManni From South Korea, joined Nov 2001, 4221 posts, RR: 23
Reply 13, posted (10 years 6 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 2133 times:

Amirs,

Guessing by the question you ask, I guess you've never flown on KE. If you had, you wouldn't have to ask us. I'd fly any day KE before NW, even if it involves a detour or an extra stop. In fact I'd fly KE any day before any other non-Asian airline, particularly American carriers. Have a nice trip on KE!



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User currently offlineIndio66 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 475 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (10 years 6 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 2106 times:

Flykal, what do you think of Asiana? Will they be extending their route network anytime soon?

User currently offlinePhilsquares From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (10 years 6 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2073 times:

I have flown on KE in F two times. The service was adequate. However, the airline I now work for will not send us on KE no matter what. There are a few airlines that are on our "no fly" list.

User currently offlineIndustrialPate From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (10 years 6 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2033 times:

I bet the number of people who participate within these discussions who've flown both KE F and NW WBC can be counted on one hand. Therefore, you're not going to get an accurate perception...

User currently offlineSCRAMJET From United States of America, joined exactly 11 years ago today! , 99 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (10 years 6 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 1976 times:

I agree with IP.

However, you might want to check out the websites of the carriers. Check out their in-flight services. It basically comes down to how much time you want to spend in the air or how many miles you want to accrue in your frequent flyer program.

The KE service isn't daily DFW/ICN so that might be a determining factor. Of course, flying on a new 777 would be quite an experience if you've never flown on one. NW's 747-400s are very nice as well, and if you're lucky, you may get one of the few newly redone -400s with the new World Business Class Seats!

Ultimately, it comes down to your preferences.



User currently offlineSR 103 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1740 posts, RR: 39
Reply 18, posted (10 years 6 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 1961 times:

I have not flown KE let alone their F to be able to compare, but I have flown WBC on NW numerous times. As much as I like WBC, I would also opt for KE's F, simply cause it is F. I imagine the food and service to be of a higher standard on KE despite the fact that others say they are no comparison to other Asian carriers.

Maybe a visual would help you a bit.


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Korean's First Class. Seems nice and comfortable.


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These pictures are of NW's old WBC which is most likely what you will get to HKG, though the upper deck of the 742 (2nd picture) may beat KE's seats in terms of comfort and legroom. They are NW's old First Class seats and I can tell you are some of the best seats currently out there. If you choose to fly NW, try to get seats in the upper deck of the 742 on the NRT-HKG sector.


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This is a picture of NW's new WBC that is still being rolled out on the 744's. I have tried this seat on the A330 and I got to say I was more than impressed. (Yes I have flown the Asian and European carriers full flat business class seats. I find these on par with CX/SQ/BA etc...)

If you want more information on NW's WBC service, let me know. I wrote a few trip reports on my numerous flights and can link them for you if you wish.

Whatever you decide, you can't go wrong with either.

SR 103

[Edited 2004-04-25 20:33:07]

User currently offlineAmirs From Israel, joined Dec 2003, 1333 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (10 years 6 months 2 days ago) and read 1900 times:

I am planning to fly on September 18 from NYC and return from HKG on the 23.

I just got another offer to fly JAL on the outbound and return with CX via SFO.
If that works out, then i think that's the best. Its a bit more expensive.


User currently offlineAirxLiban From Lebanon, joined Oct 2003, 4513 posts, RR: 53
Reply 20, posted (10 years 6 months 2 days ago) and read 1871 times:

we have a few of your Lebanese countrymen who often pilot Korean jets across the pacific

I didn't know koreans made jets. Presumably, you are referring to KE aircraft. Either way, i didn't know that.

In any event, my original comment was made not from a safety standpoint, but rather the fact that I imagine the interior of any of their aircraft smelling like vinegar, even though I know that this is not the case. Call me childish if you will...but its just the image that i have in my mind.

getting back onto the topic...sinec you're going from NYC you could do either one somewhat directly. do you have some sort of mileage programme preference?

anyway, as is obvious, since i have NOT flown korean air and i have NOT flown on NWA my contributions to this thread are of the negative variety, i'll let you guys continue discussing the matter.

Edit: i saw amirs follow up post saying he was flying from new york, so i deleted the bit about where are you starting from

[Edited 2004-04-25 21:57:22]


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User currently offlineWingnutMN From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 645 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (10 years 6 months 2 days ago) and read 1867 times:

I think that all of NW 744 are to be fitted with the new WBC by the end of this year. So if you are flying in september, the odds are much better of having the new WBC than the old WBC. If you are leaving from JFK, then you will be stopping in NRT if you fly NW.

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User currently offlineAa777jr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (10 years 6 months 2 days ago) and read 1836 times:

Flew the exact route on NW to HKG. Perect flight and service. I'd go with NWA.

User currently offlineWarren747sp From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1167 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (10 years 6 months 2 days ago) and read 1824 times:

I would fly KE only if they will keep a good distance from North Korean or Soviet air space.
But seriously Asiana is the better Korean carrier.



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