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Any A340 In US Carrier Fleets?  
User currently offlineBusinessboy From Norway, joined Mar 2004, 211 posts, RR: 1
Posted (10 years 3 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 5618 times:

Hey,
I was just wondering, are there any A340 aircraft operated by a US airline?
I know that the A330 is operated by US Airways and Northwest, but i cant recall knowing anybody operating the A340....

Are there any A340's operated by US carriers?
If not, why?

Thanks for answers and thoughts  Smile

 SmileBusinessBoy Smile


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User currently offlineA340-Fan From Germany, joined Apr 2002, 252 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (10 years 3 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 5580 times:

No US-airline fly the A340.
CO and NW had ordered them but cancelled the orders.

greetz

Nils


User currently offlineRoberta From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (10 years 3 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 5551 times:

also US airways ordered them but converted the orders to A330's

NW will be looking to aquire either 777's or A340NG sized planes in a few years so they may be a candidate

AC off course fly A340's


User currently offlineRICARDOAB From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 175 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (10 years 3 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 5482 times:

Someone mentioned in a discussion forum yesterday that US Airways could acquire 340s for ops to NRT and other Asian destinations, but I guess this is all dependent on whether they can get out of this financial difficulty.

User currently offlineUsdcaguy From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 950 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (10 years 3 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 5323 times:

I think the A340-500 would be a great aircraft for many US airlines to have in order to extend their reach into Asia, the Middle East and Africa. All of this, of course, is very much a pipe dream at this point in time, but it is very much a possibility, given the high number of immigrants from those parts of the world who now live in the US.

User currently offlineQR332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (10 years 3 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 5265 times:

Whats the reason they changed from the A340 to the A330? I hope NW do order the A345/346 as they are both great aircraft that would make a great addition to their fleet.

User currently offlineRoberta From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (10 years 3 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 5221 times:

Actually, memory served me incorrectly

US airways had the option to change A330 orders to A340's but they didnt

They have no real need for the range of the A340 and as the A333 offers better economics on Medium ranged routes it is sensible to choose the A330.

Here is a good article about it

http://airtransportbiz.free.fr/Fleets/USA333.html


User currently offlineDfwRevolution From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 960 posts, RR: 51
Reply 7, posted (10 years 3 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 5091 times:

I think the A340-500 would be a great aircraft for many US airlines to have in order to extend their reach into Asia, the Middle East and Africa

The 772ER, with a 7730nm range, can fly nearly all these routes. Here are range charts from JFK, LAX, DFW-



Routes highlighted- JFK-NRT, JFK-HKG, JFK-DBX, JFK-CAI



Routes highlighted- DFW-NRT, DFW-LHR



Routes highlighted- LAX-SYD, LAX-NRT, LAX-LHR, LAX-RIO

As you can see, the 772ER is a very capable aircraft, with the 772LR only a few years away from service (and offering an additional 2000nm of range) I seriousy doubt any A340 (much less an A345) will be opperated by a U.S airline.


User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (10 years 3 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 4923 times:

Someone mentioned in a discussion forum yesterday that US Airways could acquire 340s for ops to NRT and other Asian destinations

US did once consider the A342 for PHL-NRT, but to do so now would be rather fruitless considering that airline's relatively newfound relationship with UA.


User currently offlineSolnabo From Sweden, joined Jan 2008, 850 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (10 years 3 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 4806 times:

AC getting A345 this summer for Aug 1st premier flight Toronto-HongKong, but is it 2 of them?
Anyone knows how many?

Michael//SE  Big thumbs up
*way to go, AC*



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User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (10 years 3 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 4788 times:

It's only two.

User currently offlineSolnabo From Sweden, joined Jan 2008, 850 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (10 years 3 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 4760 times:

"It´s only two"!!!
How many T7LR are US getting??? Zero?

Michael//SE



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User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (10 years 3 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 4720 times:

Why would US (an airline whose only intercontinental operations involve western Europe) need a C-market aircraft?  Insane

User currently offlineN670UW From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1603 posts, RR: 8
Reply 13, posted (10 years 3 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 4693 times:

How many T7LR are US getting??? Zero?

How many A340-500's are U.S. carriers getting? Zero?  Insane




670


User currently offlineSolnabo From Sweden, joined Jan 2008, 850 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (10 years 3 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 4676 times:

How many T73 is in the USfleet??
Zero!  Big grin  Big grin  Big grin

Michael//SE



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User currently offlineSolnabo From Sweden, joined Jan 2008, 850 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (10 years 3 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 4650 times:

U sure know how to support Boeing  Big grin


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User currently offlineN670UW From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1603 posts, RR: 8
Reply 16, posted (10 years 3 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 4601 times:

How many T73 is in the USfleet??

How many A340's in the U.S. fleet? Zero.

How many 777's in the U.S. fleet? Over 120.

U sure know how to support Boeing

I'm not trying to support Boeing. I like both manufacturers. Just trying to put down your one-sided comments.



670


User currently offlineUal4me From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 77 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (10 years 3 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 4535 times:

I think its amazing US carriers have not picked up on the 340...a big supporter myself of Boeing, I still recognise that Airbus has a good product. I'm pretty surprised UAL never went the route of long haul Airbus, since their small market/medium haul routes are A320s...




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User currently offlineAirPortugal310 From Palau, joined Apr 2004, 3579 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (10 years 3 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 4493 times:

I believe the original question was if any US airlines fly the A340, not if the 777 flies the same routes.

No. Done. End of thread.

[Edited 2004-04-25 21:32:42]


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User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (10 years 3 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 4436 times:

I think its amazing US carriers have not picked up on the 340...a big supporter myself of Boeing

Three of them came very close... but a combination of unfortunate circumstance, for both the A340 & particular airlines, as well as advances by Boeing/McDD [fortunately] prohibited that from ever occuring.


User currently offlineDfwRevolution From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 960 posts, RR: 51
Reply 20, posted (10 years 3 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 4408 times:

I'm pretty surprised UAL never went the route of long haul Airbus, since their small market/medium haul routes are A320s..

UAL's longhaul market is a Boeing stronghold- 757, 767, 777, 747. Airbus need not apply.  Wink/being sarcastic I think the more astute memebers of Anet would agree when I say the peformance of the 777 outweights the benefit of cockpit commonality between the A320/A340. Not to mention, pilots would be on a completly different pay scale.

How many T73 is in the USfleet??

Sobloano, I've been wondering... what is the fastest selling widebody aircraft of all time? Maybe you can drop your blind, narrow view of aviation and get back to me on that one.

Cool article Roberta


User currently offlineIndustrialPate From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (10 years 3 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 4354 times:

UAL's longhaul market is a Boeing stronghold- 757, 767, 777, 747. Airbus need not apply...

...and if UA were building its fleet today, I'd bet there's a good chance they'd opt for all-Airbus for the domestic market (A319/A320/A321/A332/A333) and a mixture of Airbus and Boeing for the long-haul (A330/B777/B744). So Airbus should apply & look for the acception...

UA has expressed more satisfaction with its Airbus fleet than NW, US and HP...


User currently offlineAdria From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (10 years 3 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 4274 times:

It will take some time and then we'll also see the A340 in the fleet of a major US carrier. There are some potential carriers

User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (10 years 3 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 4266 times:

UA has expressed more satisfaction with its Airbus fleet than NW, US and HP...

That, and UA was for a long time the world's largest Airbus operator (per aircraft)


User currently offlineDfwRevolution From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 960 posts, RR: 51
Reply 24, posted (10 years 3 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 4220 times:

UA has expressed more satisfaction with its Airbus fleet than NW, US and HP...

I'm not at all saying UA dislikes its Airbus fleet. What I am saying is that, since the dawn of the jetage, purchased Boeing longhaul equipment. The DC10s are the only non-Boeing longhaul aircraft I can recall. At this time, UA is in no need of longhaul equipment, and when the day comes for a 762/763 replacement.. I'm not holding my breath for the A330.


25 ConcordeBoy : It will take some time and then we'll also see the A340 in the fleet of a major US carrier. There are some potential carriers The only USA carrier wit
26 Bofredrik : Potential Airbus A340 customers in the US? No no no. Do not think about it because then some of the Bush gang calls from The White House to set it rig
27 Roberta : i wouldnt write off NW getting the A340 in the future. They said they would look at the 773 and the A340NG at a later date, and you would have to favo
28 Bobs89irocz : Dfwrevolution- I believe UA used the DC-8 for some international stuff as well. I have a herpa wings CO A340 in the newer colors, i bought the plane a
29 IndustrialPate : What I am saying is that, since the dawn of the jetage, purchased Boeing longhaul equipment... I'm not holding my breath for the A330. UA's past fleet
30 Dc10guy : I've always wondered when a cargo version will appear ??? I would think it would be a great long range freighter .....
31 Starlionblue : Dc10guy, it has been discussed in another thread. The A330 would probably be a better option for various reasons but in any case since Airbus is still
32 Adria : "The only USA carrier with the slightlest chance of ordering the A340 is NW... and they've proven to not exactly be enamored by that particular model"
33 Warren747sp : I doubt very much that a U.S. bankruptcy judge would permit UA to buy any new Airbuses. Maybe if or when they re-emerge from Bankruptcy.
34 Post contains images ConcordeBoy : What was the deal with CO and the A340 and why did they not go with Airbus? They wanted an all Boeing fleet? Better deal on the 777? Bethune (ex Boein
35 Bobs89irocz : Thanks for help Concordeboy.....we can always count on you.
36 EAL757 : Concordeboy: I agree with you with your comments about UA buying A340's...why the heck would you think United would buy them? ...The 777 fills UA's ev
37 DfwRevolution : UA's engine preference is PW (not available on the B7E7) and ownership costs/commonality with the A320 family could make the A332 a more attractive op
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