UK_Dispatcher From United Arab Emirates, joined Dec 2001, 2580 posts, RR: 31
Reply 7, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 4023 times:
I've been hearing a strong rumour that Qantas are to start twice-daily "QF" feeder services from MAN to LHR using a Flightine BAe 146, which would operate directly into Terminal 4. Anyone else heard this one??
QantasffCL From Australia, joined Apr 2004, 86 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 3877 times:
I live in Oz and have instant alerts from Australian (Subscription) Magazine which offer internet news. I have never heard any such rumours and it would be illogical when QF codeshares (or has, haven't checked) with BA and they are operated by a reuptable airline operating new airbus'. British Airways operates its SIN-LHR flights in close proximity to Qantas, and BA's feeders would easily be QF's feeders
Not that I am saying you are wrong, but I am just saying this seems a silly rumour.
The reason Qantas is getting the slots is because they can afford to pay top dollar for them. They recently set a record price for the most expensive take off slots in the world. Air New Zealand are nearly in a stable financial state but still claim that they 'desperatly' need the QF-AirNZ trans tasman codeshare to survive.
Miami1 From Australia, joined Feb 2001, 706 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 3758 times:
It is to do with the slots gained for LHR. QF have to use them with their own services (which extends to ACMI contracts but NOT codeshare) or they lose them.
Impulse did the same thing when they launched the 717 operation. They had up to 16 B1900 flights a day SYD-CBR. The capacity was far from needed but it kept the SYD slots open for when they expanded with more 717s (and hence decreased the SYD-CBR B1900 flights).
When fighting for more slots at an airport the airline that wins the slots must maintain a certain proportion of them. Otherwise the larger carriers would be able to buy slots and not use them to prevent smaller airlines getting in.
So the rumour does have some credibility. People within the airline are talking about it. Just because it hasn't made an Internet News subscription doesn't mean it isn't in the works.
As was already mentioned the LHR slots are different to the UK-AUS air services won by QF.
FlyCaledonian From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2032 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3602 times:
What could QF use those 10 remaining LHR slots for if it is not permitted to use them for services to Australia at the moment? Could it operate a service to JFK to recreate a round the world service, or does it not have the authority to do so anymore? If that was considered an additional service to Australia (i.e. if it linked to the SYD-LAX-JFK service), what about a SYD-SIN-LHR-JFK service to take on SQ (Which has a different routing through Europe).
Or what about an Auckland-LHR service to compete with NZ? With 12 AKL-LAX services it could be feasible, or not? Or could it route AKL-SIN-LHR?
Just throwing out ideas before anybody flames me - don't know what the route licensing issues would be. Just can't believe QF would want to leave those slots unused given the price it was rumoured to have paid FlyBe.