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User currently offline7E72004 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3587 posts, RR: 2
Posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4043 times:

I was wondering this over the weekend...when an airline is merged or bought by another airline obviously the bigger airline takes over the smaller one...and the name of the smaller one disappears. I am under the impression that the "taking over" airline has rights to the name of the merged one. Could someone come along and buy the rights to the non-existant airline and start an airline using the old name?


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User currently offlinePHLBOS From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 7521 posts, RR: 23
Reply 1, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3984 times:

Even though National (Sun King) was absorbed by Pan Am (the original). Another airline came along later and used the National name (N7). Sadly that airline shut down a little over a year ago.


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User currently offline4jaded From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 248 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3970 times:

Your premise that the big one always eats the little one is somewhat flawed. For example Texas International was smaller than Continental when they purchased it and instead of making a BIG TEXAS INTERNATIONAL they decided that the Continental Brand had more cache and kept Continental. To the point of your second question, yes you can buy a name and even a logo if you want to start another carrier. The National Airlines name had been bought twice since Pan Am bought the original National Airlines. Separately the Sun King logo created for National at the end of the 1960's has also been bought twice and is currently in use. The first Purchase for was Key Air and now currently being used by Southeast airlines.
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User currently offlineDB777 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 885 posts, RR: 43
Reply 3, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3902 times:
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But the Sun King logo used by Southeast is not identical to National's Sun King logo. The colors are reversed. The sun god's face was part of the orange on National and it's part of the yellow on Southeast. Plus the sun's rays (the pointy things around the sun) are different from what I can tell in looking at two photos.

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User currently offlinePHLBOS From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 7521 posts, RR: 23
Reply 4, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3857 times:

I was wondering this over the weekend...when an airline is merged or bought by another airline obviously the bigger airline takes over the smaller one...and the name of the smaller one disappears.

Actually, ValuJet's aquisition of then-charter carrier AirTran in 1996-97 produced a different result. The bigger carrier adopted the name of the smaller carrier; in this case AirTran. The obvious reason for doing this being the crash of ValuJet Flight 592 in the Everglades. The rest is history.



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User currently offline7E72004 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3587 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3830 times:

Doesn't USAirways use the Piedmont name for some of its commuter flights? (operating under the usairways express name).


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User currently offlinePHLBOS From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 7521 posts, RR: 23
Reply 6, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3804 times:

Doesn't USAirways use the Piedmont name for some of its commuter flights? (operating under the usairways express name).

US Express also has PSA, Allegheny, and until recently, Midway as some of its commuter operations.



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User currently offlineGr8slvrflt From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 1606 posts, RR: 10
Reply 7, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3796 times:

Some mergers have resulted in combined or new names:

Delta + C&S = Delta C&S

North Central + Southern = Republic

Bonanza + Pacific + West Coast = Air West

BOAC + BEA = British

Nash-Kelvinator + Hudson = American Motors (wait, that's cars)


User currently offlineToBEYwithMEA From Lebanon, joined Feb 2004, 304 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3789 times:

In the 50's here in Lebanon MEA and Air Liban merged. MEA was bigger and so the bigger name took the livery and logos. As many of you know the MEA livery does not hold the airline's secondary name "Air Liban"


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User currently online4everRC From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 325 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 3768 times:

7E7...Yes, and it also uses the PSA name as well.

Technically on paper, (and some might disagree) Republic Airlines was the larger carrier when it was bought out by Northwest Orient. Now, Republic AirWAYS is a USAirways Express carriers.




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User currently offlineNWAFA From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1893 posts, RR: 15
Reply 10, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 3750 times:

Gr8slvrflt,

Actually, it was:

Bonanza + Pacific + West Coast = AirWest

Airwest + Southern + North Central = Republic

AirWest was part of the mix when Republic became to life.



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User currently offline4jaded From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 248 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 3748 times:

True Southeast has reversed the Sunking Logo colors and sadly positioned it rather poorly on the DC-9 tail I might add. However it is my understanding it was still purchased /the logo/ and then the modifications were made. I could be wrong but thats my understanding. Further I have also noticed as stated above that indeed they have been very lazy in keeping the rays to the initial standard. This is particularly true in the printed material and signage they use at the airport. One sign I saw at FLL last year looked as if a child had drawn it. Such a shame to see the best logo ever created /my opinion/ being trashed and disrespected.

User currently offline7E72004 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3587 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 3739 times:

I still think they should start a new airline with the Eastern name  Big thumbs up


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User currently offlineGr8slvrflt From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 1606 posts, RR: 10
Reply 13, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 3722 times:

NWAFA:

AirWest was bought buy you-know-who and renamed Hughes AirWest. Republic was formed in July 1979 but did not take over Hughes AirWest until December 1980.

GR8



User currently offlineAirzim From Zimbabwe, joined Jun 2001, 1205 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 3705 times:

There was talk about 15 years ago of Continental and Aer Lingus merging. Rather than fighting over who kept what name, they decided to merge the two names together. Hence Contalingus. Shame it never happened. Couldn't wait to see what the logo was going to look like.

User currently offlineAV757 From Colombia, joined Apr 2004, 660 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 3662 times:
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The disastrous merger of Colombia´s three major airlines, AV, MM and VX was named Alianza Summa and only lasted for 15 months.

Even though the whole fleet of aircraft was painted in the dull white/grey with the color butterfly logo
and the Alianza Summa Member logo on both lower front sides of the fuselage, they all kept their AV, MM and VX letter head on the respective airlines aircraft.

After VX went out of bussiness last august and it was finally dissolved, they are going by their original names once more. The Alianza Summa Member
logo dissapeared from the aircraft.

Once more the airlines are:

AV Aerovias Nacionales de Colombia; Avianca S.A.
MM Sociedad Aeronautica de Medellin; SAM


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User currently offlineFlyCaledonian From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2089 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 3541 times:

British United + Caledonian = British Caledonian, which was taken over by British Airways. British Airways' charter subsiduary British Airtours then became Caledonian, which was bought by the Inspirations group, merged with Flying Colours, renamed JMC and then renamed Thomas Cook!


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User currently offlineFLYSSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7412 posts, RR: 57
Reply 17, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 3437 times:

Air France + UTA + Air Inter became... : AIR FRANCE !

Air France + KLM will become : ???


ToBEYwithMEA : MEA's planes continued to carry the name Middle Esat Airlines / Air Liban until recently :

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User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 58
Reply 18, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 3421 times:

FLYSSC,

MEA's inflight magazine still shows Middle East Airlines/Air Liban. But as you said, no longer on the aircraft.

Regards



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User currently offlineDtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 3381 times:

Well, it may be just a hybrid, but for a while we were Continentals New York Air


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User currently offlineFLYSSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7412 posts, RR: 57
Reply 20, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 3366 times:

Air France was born on October 31st 1933, after the merging of Air Union, Air Orient, Compagnie Franco-Roumaine (Cidna) and SGTA (Lignes Farman).


Iranian Airways and Persian Air Services merged on November 2nd 1961 to form Iranian National Airlines Corporation, which became on Feb.24th 1962 : IRAN AIR.


User currently offlineUA744Flagship From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 3340 times:

Delta and United could have merged to form:

Delited


User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 3319 times:

Actually, ValuJet's aquisition of then-charter carrier AirTran in 1996-97 produced a different result. The bigger carrier adopted the name of the smaller carrier; in this case AirTran. The obvious reason for doing this being the crash of ValuJet Flight 592 in the Everglades. The rest is history.

Uh, AirTran was a scheduled operator, not a charter airline at the time of the merger.


User currently offlineSkiordie From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 73 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 3206 times:

Pan Am + American = Pan American

Woops I though that would be new....


User currently offlineQIguy24 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 3163 times:

Sweden's carriers: ABA and SLA - Svensk Intercontinental Lufttraffik , Norway's national carrir DNL - Det Norske Luftfartselskap and the Danish national carrier DDL - Danske Luftfartselskap AB to form a new airline SAS

25 Sprxflyswa : Don't forget Pacific Western buying out Canadian Pacific and retaining that until became Canadi>n Airlines Intl. RW became part of RC October 1980, n
26 PHLBOS : Uh, AirTran was a scheduled operator, not a charter airline at the time of the merger. Srbmod, My bad, I was under the impression that the old AirTran
27 Post contains images Scbriml : Don't forget Pacific Western buying out Canadian Pacific and retaining that until became Canadi>n Airlines Intl. Anyone can see they should have chose
28 Starlionblue : Could someone come along and buy the rights to the non-existant airline and start an airline using the old name? In theory yes, but since some of thos
29 Capitol8s : Hughes Air West + Southern Airways + North Central = REPUBLIC "Nobody served our republic like REPUBLIC" RC was a great little airline
30 7E72004 : before Republic was merged with Northwest, where did NW have its hubs?
31 Jumpseat70 : Mohawk and Allegheny merged and became US Air. However, in the minds of airline employees around the US, we called it.."Mahogany".
32 PHLBOS : Mohawk and Allegheny merged and became US Air. Actually Mohawk merged with Allegheny around 1972. The name change from Allegheny to USAir didn't occur
33 Erj-145mech : In the cargo world, if UPS and FEDEX merged...are you ready?.... FEDUP
34 Post contains images 7E72004 : United + American = UNAMERICAN (sorry..had to do it )
35 Tom in NO : Years ago, the former Western Air Lines and Continental were discussing merger. At the time, the joke was what the joined airlines would call themselv
36 DeltaAgent1 : SkyWest bought SunAire, which had more aircraft served more cities, and carried more passengers than SkyWest. The Metro fleets were combined to form S
37 4everRC : 7e72004... Prior to the merger, Northwest Orient hubbed in MSP and DTW domestically, and SEA and BOS for international. The hubs in MSP and DTW where
38 Post contains images Jessman : Or the infamous Delta - Continental rumors inspiring the joined name DEL TACO
39 Sllevin : IIRC, when Delta bought Chicago&Southern years ago, they carried "Delta C&S" titles for several years thereafter as a marketing move, then slowly went
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