Iluv2pilot From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 95 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 7217 times:
There are no 757's currently flying that have winglets. These will be the first and CO will help Boeing get the required certification. I find it ironic that CO and Boeing are doing this considering the 757 will not longer be produced. Just points out that CO plans on flying theirs for some time. They need to recoup the cost with fuel savings.
COEWRNJ From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1061 posts, RR: 20 Reply 5, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 7193 times:
I don't think anyone else has the winglets on the 757, as it states that CO is the launch customer for the 757 with winglet project.
Also it states that the 757 w/ winglets will enter service in June of 2005, but does anyone know when the 738's w/ winglets will enter service? If the product is already developed, it wouldn't make sense to wait over a year to install something that would lower fuel burn. Especially when oil prices are so high.
FlagshipAZ From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3419 posts, RR: 15 Reply 6, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 7180 times:
Perhaps the winglets on the 757s will eliminate the wingtip vortexes the 757 is known for. The 757 'heavy', from what I understand, has to have greater distance between other aircraft on final approaches because of the vortexes. But I agree...that should be one handsome looking bird once the winglets are installed. Regards.
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Tarantine From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 210 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 6588 times:
Just curious, why did'nt boeing put them on production 757s in the first place? I mean, the 757s are still being produced. Also, if the blended winglets can reduce fuel burn by 5%, why are they not on current production 767-300, 777 and 717s? Did boeing just relize that winglets actually have a purpose? Probably not since the 747-400 has them.
STT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16555 posts, RR: 52 Reply 20, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 6560 times:
The Winglets on CO's 757s will open up even more Trans-Atlantic routes for CO's 757 fleet, for example..
Berlin, Hamburg, Lyon etc..
Also the 737-800 with Winglets operating for Air Mike probably will greatly increase performance on existing routes like the Island Hopper and Guam-Cairns, also the extended range brings more Pacific Destinations within CO Mike's reach from Guam.
Thrust From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 2686 posts, RR: 10 Reply 21, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 6498 times:
This is a real surprise. Didn't expect the 757s to get them, though the 737NGs were definently in mind as possiblities. Think AA or DL will give their 738s winglets? Why doesn't Continental give their 739s winglets?
Thrust From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 2686 posts, RR: 10 Reply 23, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 6436 times:
Yes, I think so. The winglets will slightly extend the range of the 757s, so I expect Continental to take full advantage of this internationally. Wonder if AA will also give their 757s winglets now that they intend to use them more internationally?
777gk From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1641 posts, RR: 19 Reply 24, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 6357 times:
737-800s are used, in general, on the longest average stage lengths of our entire 737 fleet, and therefore would be ideal to test the economics of such an arrangement with. The word is that they will eventually be applied to the remainder of the fleet incrementally, since we do not expect the results of the trials to be anything less than favorable, based on the track record of in-service 737NG's with winglets.
Interestingly, let me refer to a post I had on this nearly a year ago, obviously this was under consideration for quite some time. Also may explain why 737-900s are not part of the initial set of aircraft to be fitted with winglets.
From United States, joined Jun 2000, 1102 posts, RR: 53
Posted Thu May 29 2003 00:34:53 UTC+1 and read 1048 times.
A year or so ago, Continental was toying with the idea of getting winglets for a cadre of 737-800s, a dedicated transcontinental/long-haul fleet, but the problem is that we operate the 738 on the full spectrum of routes, and a typical day for one of our -800s could include a few short hauls followed by a transcon, with the short hauls negating any fuel burn benefit on the long haul segment. It seems Alaska falls into this same catch-22.
I was under the impression that additional tanks could be fitted into the holds of the 739 to give it transcontinental range. The idea was offered to Continental way back when, but was declined since a route requiring such capacity would more than likely be operated by a 757. The -900 was purchased for higher-density short hauls, and that seems to be the way Boeing designed it. Alaska may be pushing the limits a bit, but this certainly is a testament to the legendary versatility and flexibility of the Boeing 737 family.
25 QF744: Thrust, I don't think any 739s have winglets? Anyone know if they do. Also, dont forget there are a couple of 727s out there with winglets, so to have
26 Thrust: DL used to have several 727-200s with winglets. It shocks me why the 739 doesn't get winglets. Is it not an -NG as well?
27 CcrlR: This is like girls getting boob jobs cause they see Britney Spears with them. Aviation partners Boeing has something about it on their website. They h