Oneworldman From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 190 posts, RR: 1 Posted (10 years 11 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 3014 times:
NY Flight Diverted For "Strange" Passenger
Apr 27, 2004 3:31 pm US/Eastern
(1010 WINS) (SALT LAKE CITY) A Delta flight headed from Los Angeles to New York's JFK airport was diverted to Salt Lake City Tuesday after a man "acting strangely" with a butane lighter alarmed the flight crew, officials said.
The lighter was contained inside a cell phone, Transportation Security Administration spokesman Earl Morris told KUTV.
"He became somewhat unruly and somewhat abusive," Morris said.
Flight 1986 left Los Angeles International Airport airport about 8 a.m. but landed about 11:05 a.m. at Salt Lake City International Airport. The plane's 139 passengers were taken off the craft to be re-screened while the man was questioned by FBI and TSA agents, airport spokeswoman Barbara Gann said.
Dogs sniffed passenger bags and agents combed through the plane, which was expected to take off again for New York around 1 p.m. MDT.
Flairport From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (10 years 11 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2914 times:
my question is is it really necessary to rescreen passengers because of 1 crazy...i say just bring dogs on there, stick a couple of air marshalls on, and get back in the air...not unload everyone and everything, make people feel uneasy, and ruin a flight even more.
Jessman From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1506 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (10 years 11 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2757 times:
"Acting strangely" with a lighter. I wonder if this genius was trying to light his shoe or carryon bag or something.
I don't care if you ARE strange, when in public in a stressful situation DON'T ACT STRANGE. It's not a good idea. I'm glad his fellow passengers didn't see fit to beat him, but he caused much trouble for everyone.
Av8rDAL From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 463 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (10 years 11 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2686 times:
Although it would be more convenient to detain the said nutcase, rescreening passengers would be necessary nonetheless. He could have brought several other "toys" aboard and distrubuted them among others--perhaps friends or accomplices-- if he were to try to commandeer the plane. Gotta make sure its all clear.
Maybe the flight attendants should have spiked his drink or something. I think that was done on a transatlantic flight I was on when some guy decided he would start having a shouting match with the F/As who told him to not unpack his carryon in the aisle (this had been going on for 30 min). He mysteriously went from all hyper to sawing logs within 20 min.
Maintain thine airspeed, lest the Earth rise up and smite thee.
757KSLC From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 233 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (10 years 11 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2172 times:
"GPSs are prohibited onboard? Since when?"
Good question, I use mine during flights whenever electronics are allowed. One time I had an HP F/A ask me to turn it off, but other than that, I have always used it. I've even had some F/As ask me where we are.
"That wasn't flying! That was falling with style!" Woody, Toy Story.
B4real From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2678 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (10 years 11 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2044 times:
No GPS units are not allowed to be used in the cabin while the a/c is in flight. They are a communicative (I think that is a word) device. Though not listed on the approved list or an example of a device that is not approved - they should not be used in flight. A compass or analog altimeter are fine though
"You may not operate the following devices when the airplane is at the gate and the boarding door is closed. This restriction also applies during taxi, takeoff, initial climb, approach, or landing.
-Personal computer peripheral devices
-Personal digital assistants, except when taxiing to the gate
-Personal computer games, except when taxiing to the gate
-Compact disc players
-Digital cassette tape player/recorders
-Video recorder/playback systems
-GPS (global positioning satellite) systems, except when taxiing to the gate"
JumboJet From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1159 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (10 years 11 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1688 times:
The conclusion to this incident, if you want to call it that, was that this man was allowed to board another Delta flight and continue his journey to Cairo. No charges of any sort were filed.
Not that I am taking sides, but being that I work in Law enforcement, it always is prudent and essential, before passing judgement, to receive all the facts.
And, from reading the morning paper here in NY, the incident is being passed off as one big misunderstanding. The passenger in question was apparently turning on his cell phone in flight. For what reason, we dont know. My cell phone has an airplane mode so I can disable the phone but use the other myriad features. Next, it seems as if the pass. was only showing the flight attendant that the phone can be used as a lighter, not the smartest move to make. Next, the FA freaks out and the plane diverts. The moral of the story, the guy looks middle eastern, you have an overly ascertive FA and the whole thing gets blown out of proportion. Sounds as if this whole ordeal could've been avoided. OF course I wasn't there and its better to be safe then sorry. I for one can say there have been a few times that I had the misfortune of being treated like shit by a FA, talked down to, rudely and without provocation. But that is a thread for another time, if not already discussed.