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Why Don`t VS Join Star?  
User currently offlinePA120 From Denmark, joined Feb 2004, 57 posts, RR: 0
Posted (10 years 7 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2391 times:

As a great fan of VS and it`s founder Sir Richard Branson, I would like to see VS in the STAR Alliance, so I can get my FF miles when I fly VS to LAS when visiting family... Seems they already codeshare with a number of Star carriers and SQ owns 49% of VS. Wouldn`t it be better for VS to join the alliance to compete more with BA?

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User currently offline744 From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 449 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (10 years 7 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2340 times:

I totally agree with you PA120. When I want to use my Flying Club reward ticket. I have no option but to fly on VS ONLY from SFO-LHR rt. That really is boring as I am tried of flying VS and would prefer to fly other carriers like SQ or Bmi longhaul. All they have is DL, CO, and VS and for long hual. And all of them are boring  Yawn

User currently offlineINNflight From Switzerland, joined Apr 2004, 3767 posts, RR: 60
Reply 2, posted (10 years 7 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2307 times:

Maybe STAR is not really interested into VS because there's already BMI in the alliance...  Insane
Would 2 airlines of the same country with almost the same hubs make sense?

regards, Florian



Jet Visuals
User currently offlineKEno From Malaysia, joined Feb 2004, 1842 posts, RR: 27
Reply 3, posted (10 years 7 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2275 times:

Although both VS and BD share the same hub in LHR, their products are very different. Hence both would be a great asset to an alliance like Star. VS is primarily a long haul carrier while BD serves *mainly* europe and the UK.

User currently offlineWillo From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 1352 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (10 years 7 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2259 times:

744

How come you are "bored" with VS when on your other thread you claim you haven't flown with them? Please be consistent!


http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/1536419

[Edited 2004-04-28 13:17:58]

User currently offline744 From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 449 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (10 years 7 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2243 times:

Me and my dad use the same user ID that's why.
Regards,
Chris


User currently offlinePA120 From Denmark, joined Feb 2004, 57 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (10 years 7 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2193 times:

Bmi and VS does not fly the same routes and I think they could do great things together!

744; If you`re bored with VS, why don`t you join another FF program? As for me, I can`t even join because I am not a resident of the UK or the US...


User currently offlineChinaeastern From China, joined Apr 2004, 348 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (10 years 7 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2148 times:

yeh, it seems that Krisflyer of SQ would suite u better as all star carriers plus VS, DL are all eligible for getting miles

User currently offlineUALFAson From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 736 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (10 years 7 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1961 times:

Don't forget that VS is one of only 4 airlines allowed to fly b/t the US & Heathrow. Should they join *A, they'd be directly competing with UA on flights b/t LHR and JFK, IAD, ORD, LAX, etc. UA would never allow that.

Plus there's nothing really to be gained by adding VS. Most of VS's destinations in Africa and Asia can be reached via connections in AB) (FRA / FRF / EDDF), Germany">FRA on LH.



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User currently offlinePanamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4952 posts, RR: 25
Reply 9, posted (10 years 7 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1930 times:
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VS and EK will be the holdouts in the airline alliance game...Branson's ego will not allow him to 'hook up' with an alliance as large as Star - it would dilute the VS brand (especially considering how big Star has gotten and will continue to get)...As long as VS maintains its innovation, superb inflight svc, etc., its go-it-alone attitude is viable. Besides, VS and SQ aren't exactly the best of friends despite the 49% stake...VS really took SQ for a ride on that one - what has SQ gotten out of that relationship so far? Branson got the cash but still calls ALL the shots wrt VS...

User currently onlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7616 posts, RR: 42
Reply 10, posted (10 years 7 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1877 times:

they'd be directly competing with UA on flights b/t LHR and JFK, IAD, ORD, LAX, etc.

Competing or cooperating? When MX was in UA, it did not so much compete with UA in the MEx-ORD and MEx-LAX routes, but rather cooperated. LH and UA do not compete in IAD-FRa or ORD-FRa... they cooperate. With VS in Star, UA would be able to sell seats in VS flights and viceversa.

Anyway, I do not see VS joining Star. There is already one U.K. carrier, which is BD and, most important, VS has made it clear that it will stay out of alliances.



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User currently offlineFA4UA From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 812 posts, RR: 20
Reply 11, posted (10 years 7 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1826 times:

it is odd how Virging Blue and UA are marketing partners. I know it's not VS but it's the same family.

I think BD is a better option overall for our star partner in the UK. They cover their own country well and medium haul in Europe. If VS joined, they and LH would have a few overlaps with all their long-haul flying.

Who has more marketshare: Star Alliance or One World at LHR? Star has 14/15 partners flying there, but One World has BA hubbed there. Any numbers out there?



The debate continues... Starwood or Hyatt... which is better
User currently offlineIowa744fan From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 931 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (10 years 7 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1783 times:

Can anyone tell me if the whole VS and BMI hookup ever became more than just a rumor? Did the two actually meet and discuss options, or was it just a rumor that they should join. Personally, I think that the two cooperating would be a good idea. With their different products (long haul vs. short haul), it would definitely be a chance to feed passengers to the other and help to compete with BA.

However, I do want to say that I don't know a great deal about connecting traffic levels in London, so perhaps they are low and this would not help.



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