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ANA: Service To U.S. With 7E7  
User currently offlineDIA From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3273 posts, RR: 28
Posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2914 times:

As stated in other recent posts: ANA will utilize the 7E7 not only on national and regional service, but they will also utilize the Dreamliner on U.S. routes, including some that they have yet to start service on. . .stated by ANA themselves.

I, of sound mind, have no doubt, with my local airport authority connections, know that ANA will most definatley start service to Denver, nonstop to Tokyo. Reasons are sound and numerous. . .especially the UA connection. Oh yeah, we (Denver) will throw money at the carrier who initiates this service too.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy


Anyhow. . .my original though, or question, is what other cities do you think ANA is considering?


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User currently offlineAs739x From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6124 posts, RR: 23
Reply 1, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2847 times:

ANA to the US. Here are my guess.

NRT-DEN
KIX-SFO/ORD/LAX

Narita service is high demand in resticted. The 7E7 I would think will be utilized to serve "Star" cities from other Japenese cities. Ex. KIX/FUK. IMO

ASSFO



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User currently offlineTokyoNarita From Palau, joined Aug 2003, 570 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2771 times:

Before ANA considers this aircraft into transpacific or European service I would expect this aircraft to go where the B767s are currently serving...

ANA will replace the aging domestic B767s currently serving medium to small Japanese domestic market with the SR version of the 7E7s.

They also want a good aircraft that can serve high-growing-demand intra-Asia travel between Narita/Osaka to medium Asian cities. They also want a good aircraft that can serve between medium Japanese cities to primary large Asian cities. These are also currently mostly served by the aging B767-300ERs.

TokyoNarita





[Edited 2004-04-30 05:16:54]

User currently offlineAs739x From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6124 posts, RR: 23
Reply 3, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2741 times:

Very good point Tokyo. People seem to forget some of these are the SR birds

ASSFO



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User currently offlineDIA From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3273 posts, RR: 28
Reply 4, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2735 times:

I see your point TokyoNarita. But ANA 767s do not serve the U.S and the 7E7 definately will - as stated by ANA. I was just going off of that statement.

As739x: reasonable thoughts. How about as additional freq. as well to currently served cities?



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User currently offlineDIA From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3273 posts, RR: 28
Reply 5, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2721 times:

SR birds? That term immediately reminds me of the 500+ pax 747SR. But, you both are correct.


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User currently offlineAs739x From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6124 posts, RR: 23
Reply 6, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2695 times:

DIA...agreed. Frequency is important to travellers. Some city's may warrant more flights but not the demand of a 777 or 747. Will be interesting to see what pans out.

ASSFO



"Some pilots avoid storm cells and some play connect the dots!"
User currently offlineOzzie From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 338 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2684 times:

I also believe that the 7E7s will be used for the 767 replacement first. But, I have no doubt that ANA will open up smaller U.S. markets such as PHX, MIA, BOS, and PHL.

Hopefully, that is.


User currently offlineTokyoNarita From Palau, joined Aug 2003, 570 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2661 times:

I didn't rule it out..it may happen.

Look at the B777s. B777s are all around birds. It really meets the needs for the shorthaul, the medium and the longhaul for ANA. I wouldn't doubt that it will eventually be the same way with this 7E7.

TokyoNarita


User currently offlineLahaina From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 258 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2557 times:

DIA:

ANA does use 767 to the US -- i.e. NRT-HNL.


User currently offlineLEO777 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 112 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2518 times:

I would highly agree that ANA will be coming back to ORD with the 7E7, the 747 they used to use was just too big and could not compete with JAL, AA, and UA. I can't wait to see the 7E7 @ ORD! KIX-ORD-IAD is also a high possibility.


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User currently offlineFlyer732 From Namibia, joined Nov 1999, 1367 posts, RR: 22
Reply 11, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2508 times:

More importantly, the plane actually has to be built, and then fly.

User currently offlineAloha717200 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4479 posts, RR: 15
Reply 12, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2450 times:

More importantly, the plane actually has to be built, and then fly.


It will, and like nothing else... Big grin


(I love that commercial)


User currently offlineCopaair737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 2324 times:

My turn at the guessing game:

Addl frequencies on LAX and SFO
KIX to SFO, LAX, JFK, IAD
FUK or NGO to SFO and LAX

The opening of DEN, PHX, BOS, MIA, and probably the reopening of ORD

-Copa


User currently offlineDIA From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3273 posts, RR: 28
Reply 14, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2216 times:

"DIA: ANA does use 767 to the US -- i.e. NRT-HNL."

To clarify. . .I should have specified. . .to Mainland U.S. destinations. Good point Lahaina.

On a side note, does JAL also have 767 service to Hawaii?



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User currently offlineTokyoNarita From Palau, joined Aug 2003, 570 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2091 times:

On a side note, does JAL also have 767 service to Hawaii?

No. just the B747s and occasional DC10-40s.

TokyoNarita


User currently offlineSQ452 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1112 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1955 times:

ANA uses 767's to Honolulu, but I think they have switched to a 747 for now. Everything mainland is 777 or 747.

If they do Boston, I can't wait for it!!!



SIN > CVG > BOS
User currently offlineAirbus3801 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 1089 posts, RR: 5
Reply 17, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1817 times:

ANA I hope will open service PHX with their new 7E7's and finally open up the Phoenix-Asia market

User currently offlineDfwRevolution From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 968 posts, RR: 51
Reply 18, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1795 times:

Would DFW's new international terminal be a possibility?

Regards,
DFW


User currently offlineIowa744fan From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 931 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1775 times:

As stated by others, my guess would be to the cities where they have Star Alliance partners:

Chicago ORD (re-open)
Denver
Philadelphia (whether they still have a Star partner there remains to be seen though)

and a city without any service to Asia:
Boston



"I can't wait to see the 7E7 @ ORD! KIX-ORD-IAD is also a high possibility. "

Leo,
Why would they fly the ORD-IAD segment? They already have United as their partner to fly that segment. It would make economical sense to only fly to ORD and then transfer any passengers who want to go to IAD to a UA flight since ANA cannot pick up additional passengers. It would be more efficient to place them on a UA flight.


User currently offlineChrisNH From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 4101 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 1634 times:

I live in New Hampshire and would love to see Boston on the 'new cities' list for ANA, but in my opinion any Asian nonstop out of Boston will be primarily driven by high-tech business demand. The closest we ever came to getting nonstop Asian service was pre-2000, when AA actually announced (and, I believe, started booking) Boston to Narita nonstops on MD-11s.

In any event, as much as I'd like to see ANA start nonstops out of Boston, I am skeptical as to how successful they'd be. Perhaps they could run a flight from BOS-SFO (no local traffic allowed, as is customary) and then on from there. That way, ANA can see how much demand out of Boston there is without allocating a whole plane to the route. Korean Air did this with a 747-400, but it didn't last long...I think the falloff in high-tech business travel caused its demise. 2007 is a long way off, and no one knows what the business travel landscape will look like then. A one-stopper a la Korean Air would be a good daily flight, I think. A nonstop Boston-Japan would be best off being 2x per week, or 3x..but certainly no more frequent than that until the route proves itself.

I also would think that a stop enroute (such as SFO) is actually a good thing for Boston passengers because it gives them time to stretch their legs. This is one route where a stop might be a GOOD thing.

Chris in NH


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