BRUspotter From Belgium, joined Jan 2004, 146 posts, RR: 0 Posted (12 years 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 4040 times:
Please confirm or dismiss this theory of mine.............I live right on the flightpath out of BRU about 20km from the airport. Sometimes when I see an Avro climbing out, I swear that I can hear the flaps going up as there is a sudden sound of rushing air. Is it my imagination or are the avro's wings really that loud?
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Greasespot From Canada, joined Apr 2004, 3104 posts, RR: 19
Reply 1, posted (12 years 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 3936 times:
Your not losing your mind. A/C even makes an announcement inflight about the noise with flaps down on their 146's. I think it is the airflow your hearing and not the flaps moving. At least that is how I understand it when I last flew on a 146.
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J32driver From United States of America, joined May 2000, 399 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (12 years 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 3748 times:
The "flap howl" happens when the flaps are in transit between 0 and 18 degrees going either up or down. Its most prevalent at about 200 knots. And yes, when on the ground you will hear the "flap howl" more than you will hear the engines.
AV757 From Colombia, joined Apr 2004, 667 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (12 years 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 3705 times:
When MM had 9 ARJ100 flying here in Colombia it was very easy to identify the airplanes overflying the city of BOG during take-off on departure and approaching to land with flaps down due to the particular noise the flap howl made.
Hammer From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 692 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (12 years 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 3389 times:
I was on a ARJ85 flight last year from MBS to DTW when right after we took off an older couple sitting behind me heard that noise and the guy said to his wife that it is a normal thing to shut 2 engines down to save fuel and that was the noise they heard....I laughed so hard when I heard that but I was never kind enough to tell them different...
Starlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17661 posts, RR: 65
Reply 15, posted (12 years 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 3211 times:
Hammer, that's a classic urban legend. I've heard the same for the 747. FUNNY!
VS346, go to Stockholm and fly from Bromma. Avro Central since Malmö Aviation only flies the BAe-146/Avro RJ. And Stockholm is worth a visit all on it's own. Go from late May to July for the best weather.
Lovely approach and/or departure too, over the city.
Finally, Malmö Aviation have allowed me to jumpseat after 9/11. The captain said they didn't really see themselves as a hijacking target. In fact, in late 2001, I went up to the cockpit after landing and had a chat. The captain asked: "Why didn't you come up in flight? You could have jumpseated." ARGH!
"There are no stupid questions, but there are a lot of inquisitive idiots."
Flyboy1980 From New Zealand, joined Nov 2003, 253 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (12 years 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 3020 times:
I used to be a F/A on the 146-300 for Air NZ, and during training we were never warned of it, and surprisingly, I don't ever remember any pax asking what the noise was. I asked one of the Captains one day, and apparently the official name for the noise is either "flap toot" or "flap hoot"...I can't remember which it was but sounds comical anyway!
Ly334 From Israel, joined Apr 2002, 292 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (12 years 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2883 times:
2 weeks ago I flew an Avro 100 of SNBA from BRU to FCO.
The flaps when they are going in or coming out before landing they really have a strange noise which is completely different than the other a/c's.
It sound as if there is a kind of vacum pressure while the flaps are moving....
AviatorTJ From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1838 posts, RR: 6
Reply 24, posted (12 years 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2688 times:
Is this something that is heard all times the flaps change? I flew one MSP-GFK two weeks ago, the pilots said I would hear it. After takeoff, I felt the flaps retract, and on landing, I felt them go out. I was in front of wings so that could have attributed to it.