SNATH From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3249 posts, RR: 22 Posted (10 years 10 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 3007 times:
ILFC chairman and CEO Steven Udvar-Hazy says that they are looking at
the 7E7 but they need more information from Boeing before considering
ordering it. He's also very bullish about the aviation industry
Roberta From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (10 years 10 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 2943 times:
I just found out something interesting about the 7E7
projected empty weight of a 7E7 = 242,000-252,000lbs
empty weight of an A306 = 198,000lbs
empty weight of a 763 = 179,000lbs
although i realise the 7E7 domestic, which is the only fair comparison to the A306, will undoubtly weigh less than 242,000 and will be more efficient than a older generation aircraft. but you have to wonder about the light weight claim.
Cedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8286 posts, RR: 54
Reply 3, posted (10 years 10 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2787 times:
Boeing should be able to sell gazillions of this plane, it fills a gaping hole in the market as the 767 and A300 aren't really a great long term investment if you're buying new planes - both are at the end of their production life. Airbus are preoccupied with the A380, and a light twin widebody with 21st century technology would put Boeing back on the map.
What's the hold up?
fly Saha Air 707s daily from Tehran's downtown Mehrabad to Mashhad, Kish Island and Ahwaz
DfwRevolution From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 1013 posts, RR: 51
Reply 4, posted (10 years 10 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2751 times:
Well, I'm on a Pocket PC so I cannot check any of my references, so I'm going on memory...
1. Is that the empty weight of a 763 or 763Er? How does t is compare to the empty weight of the A333/A332?
The 7e7-8/9 must have a higher MTOw to carry enough fuel to fly 8500nm flights, and carry a higher fraction of cargo. This means a reinforced structure relative to the 763 and A306. but the only relevant competition is the A332 and A333, again i cannot check those #s.
B2707SST From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 1374 posts, RR: 59
Reply 7, posted (10 years 10 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2542 times:
I'd agree with DfwRevolution that comparing the 7E7 (8500 nm range) to the A300-600 (4000 nm range) is somewhat apples-to-oranges. Any comparison will be a little misleading, since no aircraft with the 7E7's payload-range capability currently exists in the 200-250 seat segment. That said, here are some other OEWs:
Yyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16405 posts, RR: 56
Reply 11, posted (10 years 10 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2281 times:
ILFC will order the 7E7 when:
1. A customer wishes to lease new 7E7's, and/or
2. 7E7 orders roll in which will indicate varied & strong demand in which case ILFC may order the 7E7 without a customer initially.
Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.