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Loads On MAN-LHR Route  
User currently offlineVS346 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 339 posts, RR: 1
Posted (10 years 3 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 3286 times:

Anyone know the general load factors on BMI and/or BA from MAN-LHR?

Just curious really..

Cheers,
VS346


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User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19215 posts, RR: 52
Reply 1, posted (10 years 3 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 3181 times:

In my experience, the aircraft are 3/4+ full. I think I speak for MYT and JTW when I say that this is normally the case - even during the middle of the day. I suspect that the earlier morning and late afternoon/early evening would be particularly full.


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User currently offlineTrident2e From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (10 years 3 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 3163 times:

I can echo Pearson's comments. I fly this route a couple of times a week and on both BA and bmi the flights are invariably close to full.

User currently offlineRick767 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2000, 2662 posts, RR: 51
Reply 3, posted (10 years 3 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 3094 times:

I used to fly the bmi route once every month or 6 weeks, and rarely are the loads less than 75%. The quietest ever flight I had on this route there were only about 40 of us on board an A321 - nice and roomy!


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User currently offlineRichardw From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 3749 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (10 years 3 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 3060 times:

Were you a pilot for bmi in the past Rick767?

User currently offlineRick767 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2000, 2662 posts, RR: 51
Reply 5, posted (10 years 3 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 2991 times:

No I used the service regularly to visit my friends and parents up north when I moved down to Gatwick.

Always preferred to go on bmi from LHR for the bmi miles (have enough for a Caribbean trip now!) but more recently I made better use of the BA LGW-MAN service, and now I've moved to BRS I guess it will be an Air Southwest DH8 to MAN!



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User currently offlineLHR340 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2003, 877 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (10 years 3 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2871 times:

I flew BMI a month ago on an early morning flight from LHR-MAN, there we're about 10people in Business and 20 in Economy, really bizzare I was expecting it to be full! The flight back was about 70% full though.

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User currently offlineMhodgson From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2002, 5047 posts, RR: 25
Reply 7, posted (10 years 3 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2868 times:

All the times I've flown on the recently (BA in Feb, 757 and A319, BD April, A320) the loads were probably closer to 90% - in dfact I think the BA A319 LHR MAN was full, though it was a Friday evening so very popular


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User currently offlineAirlinefreak1 From United Arab Emirates, joined Jul 2000, 260 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (10 years 3 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2829 times:

when i flew on BA's A320 last dec. and Jan from Man to LHR return , the loads were both above 95%

regards


User currently offlineDemoose From Canada, joined Mar 2001, 1952 posts, RR: 23
Reply 9, posted (10 years 3 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 2822 times:

You can see why that route is so popular when Virgin Trains are asking upwards of £50 rtn for 3 hours of hell. BA and Bmi have capitalised on the poor rail service and they charge dirt cheap fares on this route, I don't think i'll ever take the train if I'm heading to London anymore.

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User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19215 posts, RR: 52
Reply 10, posted (10 years 3 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 2762 times:

"BA and Bmi have capitalised on the poor rail service and they charge dirt cheap fares on this route."

Not really, unless you book quite a bit in the future. For example, if I wanted to fly from LHR to MAN tomorrow morning and return tomorrow night, it would cost me 255.40 pounds on BMI (plus 3 pounds extra if using a credit card) and 270.40 on BA, with train fares costing from 140.00 pounds. None of those options are cheap. In contrast, it would cost me 51.40 pounds (plus the 3 pounds) on BMI and 58.40 on BA if I had a day trip on 10th August, with the train fare being from 16 pounds. Evidently there CAN be cheaper tickets - but which are hardly "dirt cheap" - but it all depends upon when you book.



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User currently offlineDemoose From Canada, joined Mar 2001, 1952 posts, RR: 23
Reply 11, posted (10 years 3 months 4 weeks ago) and read 2722 times:

Yes, point taken Pe@rson, I know the term 'dirt cheap' to you would only apply to a £0.01 Ryanair fare  Laugh out loud But you can find the low fares up to a few days before the day of departure usually. I know alot of people who have ditched the train on this route and having travelled it many a time I can see why. I guess its just how flexible you are and your ability to forward plan.


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User currently offlineBa319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8535 posts, RR: 54
Reply 12, posted (10 years 3 months 4 weeks ago) and read 2694 times:
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I fly BA on a regular basis between LHR & MAN,on all occasions the flights have been about 90%+ capacity.


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User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19215 posts, RR: 52
Reply 13, posted (10 years 3 months 4 weeks ago) and read 2674 times:

"Yes, point taken Pe@rson, I know the term 'dirt cheap' to you would only apply to a £0.01 Ryanair fare."

How dare you! I would say 0.99 is also dirt cheap.  Big grin

"But you can find the low fares up to a few days before the day of departure."

Interesting. If I wanted to fly from LHR to MAN on the morning of the 10th May and return in the evening, then the cheapest on BD would be 125.40 (plus 3 if using a credit card) and 140.40 on BA, neither of which are at all cheap. Hardly "low fares" even though today, the 6th May, is "a few days before the day of departure."

In my experience, the lowest fares by far are almost without exception bookable quite a bit in advance, unless you're willing to accept quite poor timings which are not conducive to a day trip and still pay a pretty high price.

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User currently offlineANstar From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2003, 5193 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (10 years 3 months 4 weeks ago) and read 2668 times:

My BA flights LHR-MAN are always quite full also.

On every flight we have had a BA crew PAXING up to MAN also.


User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19215 posts, RR: 52
Reply 15, posted (10 years 3 months 4 weeks ago) and read 2643 times:

"On every flight we have had a BA crew PAXING up to MAN also."

Yeah - the crew which fly the 763 from MAN to JFK are based at LHR but commute to and from MAN.



"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineStarGoldLHR From Heard and McDonald Islands, joined Feb 2004, 1529 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2604 times:

I fly BMI LHR to MAN all the time.
It's nearly always full.

Last week I flew my parents down...

Virgin has engineering works every weekend for the last 12 months and for the next twelve months meaning weekend travel is not less than 4h30 before any of the usual delays, wind, rain, leaves, voodoo or black magic occurs.
At £50.40 for the train, to £78 for the plane at relative short notice to me there is absolutely no question as to who I would travel.

At the same time you get a drink and a sandwich on BMI, compared to nothing what so ever and standing in the aisles on virgin trains.

it's not just the time and the money...
it's the being treated like a person and not cattle that makes the difference.

I say good luck to BMI.


btw.. Ryan air and Easyjet do not fly the London Manchester route.

Options are:

BMI LHR-MAN
BA LGW-MAN
BA LHR-MAN
VG LCY-MAN

THE VG route is always full as well, even though it starts round £100, this is the true fastest city to city method..



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