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NWA's A330's  
User currently offlineHammer From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 688 posts, RR: 2
Posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 3523 times:

They have 7 of them now...#8 came ahead of #7....the seventh is going into service on May 28th...delayed due to "mechanical" reasons, but it was earlier reported in here that it was due to lightning strikes in France...that will be the last of the -300's, then NWA starts to get the -200's begining in mid-2004...

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User currently offlineAviatorTJ From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1838 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 3421 times:

Sweet. What was the reason for 3301 being delayed? I remember 3302 coming first last July. Will the 200 require training flights like they had when the first one came last year? Thanks for the info  Smile/happy/getting dizzy.

__TJ__


User currently offlineJetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7405 posts, RR: 50
Reply 2, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 3295 times:
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Hammer, There is one more 330-300's to be delivered this year, and seven 330-200's for a total of eight.


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User currently offlineThrust From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 2688 posts, RR: 10
Reply 3, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 3181 times:

I thought NWA had ordered ten A333s? Only 8 of them? That's pitiful!


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User currently offlineAzjubilee From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 3894 posts, RR: 28
Reply 4, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 3133 times:

Thrust... how pitiful, you're wrong. They've ordered 24 of them. 10 -200s and 14 -300s. NO airline takes delivery of all their planes at once.



AZJ


User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 5, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 3120 times:

I thought NWA had ordered ten A333s? Only 8 of them? That's pitiful!

Heh, I like you, but I always wonder where you get the numbers you write in posts.  Laugh out loud

N


User currently offlineLeneld From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 606 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 3100 times:

Can't wait to see them at PDX in the fall!!!!!!!!!!!!

User currently offlineYUL332LX From Canada, joined Feb 2004, 820 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 3018 times:

Actually, NW ordered 32 A330!


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User currently offlineNorthwest 777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 224 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 2994 times:

I've heard that Boston and Seattle are the next stations to get the 330s (both for AMS flights), but does anyone know when?

User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7529 posts, RR: 28
Reply 9, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 2926 times:

Ugh, we repeat this every week.

The orginial A330 / A340 order was placed way back in the early 90's and continually deffered due to financial health and what-not.
In 2001, NW officially placed a firm order for 24 A330-300's. This came from the order that had been continually deffered. That order was for 36 aircraft and is being cancelled at a rate of 4 aircraft per year. Thus for whatever reason Airbus and their accounting and ordering procedure is why the numbers are so high.

Then in 2002, the order was altered, still for a total of 24 A330's, but a mix of 14 -300's, and 10 -200's.

Deliveries began last summer. Yes 3302 came before 3301, primarily due to test flying and the order of manufacturing over in France.

In 2004, NW will take delivery of 3 -300's and 7 -200's for a total fleet of 15 A330's by year-end (8 -300's, 7 -200's)
-3306 was delivered in March
-3307 was to have been delivered in April but was damaged due to lightning strikes during test flights in France. Thus requiring repairs, checks, and re-painting, as mentioned it is now set to be delivered at the end of May.
-3308 was delivered this week.

After that, that is all the -300's until 2005. The next delivery (after 3308 when its repaired) will be of the -200 varients arriving sometime in July. Yes they will require initial test flying, crew familarization, and the works. Tenatively they are set to enter revenue service sometime in September on West-Coast - NRT - and beyond routes. SEA, SFO, and PDX all will EVENTUALLY see the A330-200 put on routes to NRT, plus some beyond NRT flying too. As to which city will get it first, thats anyone's guess and has NOT YET BEEN OFFICIALLY determined. Yes, PDX-NRT will initially start as a DC-10 and transition to an A330-200 in the fall. SFO will likely do the same. LAX will remain 742/744. SEA-NRT is a wild-card, it could stay 742 for a while, or switch to A330-200, all depends on matching capacity with demand. Now I know someone is going to chime in here and say "I heard from my mail-man's dentist who's neighbors with the SEA station manager for AS who heard that they were getting the A330-200 FIRST." Well, guess what, you can say that all you want, but IT HAS NOT YET BEEN OFFICIALLY DETERMINED WHAT TRANS-PACIFIC ROUTES WILL GET THE ABSOLUTE FIRST A330-200.

End of rant

As for the -300's, here's how it shapes up:

1) DTW-AMS*
2) DTW-AMS*
3) DTW-AMS*
4) DTW-AMS*
5) DTW-AB) (FRA / FRF / EDDF), Germany">FRA
6) DTW-CDG
7) DTW-FCO (Starts May 13)
8) operational spare

* For May the schedule will be slightly different due to the delayed delivery of ship 3308 as mentioned above. For now through May 13, all 4 DTW-AMS flights will operate with the A330. May 13-May 21, Flights 68/67 will operate with either an A330 or DC-10, dependent if the spare A330 is available or in mx. May 22-23 DTW-AMS 68/67 will operate as a 747-400. May 24-25, A330 or DC-10, May 26-30 68/67 will operate as a 747-200. After that they should all be A330-300, assuming 3308 is not delayed further.

This is the A330-300 schedule through October. DTW-FCO operates seasonally through October 30th. After this date, DTW-LGW will switch from DC-10 to an A330.

Beyond that, again, NOTHING HAS OFFICIALLY BEEN DETERMINED as to where the next -300's in 2005 will be allocated. You can guess/debate/fight/bicker all you want, you might as well just wait until its been decided by the powers that be.


User currently offlineHammer From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 688 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 2817 times:

Thanks PSU...Jet--I did say that NWA was getting a total of 8 -300's by years end...#8 came into service before #7...

User currently offlineJetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7405 posts, RR: 50
Reply 11, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2707 times:
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I stand corrected. Thanks for clarifying. By the way. R U an FA for NW? Just curious.


[Edited 2004-05-07 02:30:38]


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User currently offlineIndustrialPate From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2620 times:

I stand corrected. Thanks for clarifying. By the way. R U an FA for NW? Just curious.

I have a feeling you may have just insulted Hammer  Big grin.


User currently offlineJetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7405 posts, RR: 50
Reply 13, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2554 times:
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I was just asking him if he as an FA. I flew with someone who had a nickname Hammer. It wasn't my intent to offend anyone.


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User currently offlineIndustrialPate From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2547 times:

Jetjack74,
I'm just playing around... I don't know if Hammer's a FA or not, but I suspect the answer's no.


User currently offlineCdgdtw From United States of America, joined May 2003, 200 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2413 times:

by the way, why is it an insult to be a F/A???  Smile

User currently offlineHammer From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 688 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2385 times:

no I am not a F/A...nice reply Pete....there is nothing wrong with F/A's but no I am not.

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