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AA A-300 Hard Landing At JFK  
User currently offlineJfkviaphx From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 194 posts, RR: 0
Posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 11009 times:

I was watching the normal traffic landing on 13L and I see an AA A-300 hit the surface hard. It touched down hitting the left rear gear first and bounced back in the air a bit. The one problem was a tire broke loose. It rolled forward then slowed and bounced a bit under and behind the aircraft. The plane exited the runway and began taxing to the terminal under normal power. (I feel the crew didn't know what happened.)

The tire then exited the runway rolling about 50-60 mph and turned into the old TWA T-5. It then rolled behind a mostly full B6 terminal until it hit a baggage cart behind a UA 777. Very dangerous since it ended up almost in the same place it broke free except it was only a few feet form workers. When I left they were putting a new tire on the aircraft after replacing the broken part.



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User currently offlineN9801F From Samoa, joined Apr 2004, 332 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 10899 times:

Was it a tire or a whole wheel that broke loose?

User currently offlineSQ452 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1112 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 10898 times:

hence, why these aircraft need to go in my opinion


SIN > CVG > BOS
User currently offlineMD11LuxuryLinr From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1385 posts, RR: 14
Reply 3, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 10879 times:

Sounds like fun! A runaway wheel of any size is extremely dangerous. Fortunately, nobody was hurt..


Caution wake turbulence, you are following a heavy jet.
User currently offlineJfkviaphx From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 194 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 10863 times:

It was the front left tire of the rear left gear. It snapped off.

User currently offlineScottysAir From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 10873 times:

Good! Let not make let happening again with A300.

User currently offlineCaptaingomes From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 6413 posts, RR: 55
Reply 6, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 10520 times:

SQ452, the A300's have to go because a tire came off? Are you serious????? Oh brother.


"it's kind of like an Airbus, it's an engineering marvel, but there's no sense of passion" -- J. Clarkson re: Coxster
User currently offlineAFROTC From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 191 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 10296 times:

no, they need to go because of the AA pilot's bad training lol(just kidding ofcourse)


We've Been Looking For You, United States Airforce, Cross Into The Blue!
User currently offlineCaptaingomes From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 6413 posts, RR: 55
Reply 8, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 10175 times:

hehehe, yeah, the AA pilots were too hard on the brakes, just like they're too hard on the rudders, so the tire came off.  Big grin


"it's kind of like an Airbus, it's an engineering marvel, but there's no sense of passion" -- J. Clarkson re: Coxster
User currently offlinePlaneviewNYC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 10110 times:

Seems that if you're too rough with any part of the A300, said part is likely to fall off.

User currently offlineAlitalia7e7 From Australia, joined Mar 2004, 185 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 9972 times:

Silly Questioin, but are the AA A300's heavier than a standard A300, as Airbus has added the Aluminium Skins added to the A300's to match the aluminium affect and consistancy across the AA fleet?

User currently offlineFritzi From United Arab Emirates, joined Jun 2001, 2762 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 9904 times:

SQ452 said:

hence, why these aircraft need to go in my opinion.

Dont bother saying anything if you dont have anything worthwhile to add. Things break, it happens on all airliners. Obviously you have no idea about technical aspects of aircraft.

What about the 747s then, do they also need to go? C´mon, one dropped two freakin engines into Amsterdam!!!  Yeah sure


User currently offlineA340600 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2003, 4105 posts, RR: 51
Reply 12, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 9873 times:

Typical Amercian's immediately blame airbus Yawn,

As Alitalia7e7 said AA A300's are a lot heavier, for that allumminium effect, akes em look tatty too  Laugh out loud

Cheers

Sam Laugh out loud



Despite the name I am a Boeing man through and through!
User currently offlineTWISTEDWHISPER From Sweden, joined Aug 2003, 711 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 9781 times:

I used to not like the AA livery, but I have changed my mind... I think it looks cool... a bit 80's ish perhaps  Wink/being sarcastic

I was hit by a runaway tyre once, although I was inside my car the impact was servere, and so was the damages to my car... that was a truck tyre, speed about 30 mphs, I don't want to think about what would happen if it was speeding towards me at 100 mphs instead.... *brrr*  Wow!



Read between the lines.
User currently offlineT prop From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 1028 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 9723 times:

"hence, why these aircraft need to go in my opinion"

You obviously know nothing about airplanes.


"Typical Amercian's immediately blame airbus"


Typical 12 year old kid response. BTW, what's an Amercian?


T prop.


User currently offlineSolnabo From Sweden, joined Jan 2008, 852 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 9491 times:

OMG.......a A300 in a windshear while landing!!! Big news in US!!!!!!!!!
Jeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhhhh  Insane

Michael//SE



Airbus SAS - Love them both
User currently offlineVSGirl From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 9433 times:

I once saw an Airtours Boeing 767 land at EGKK a few years back. She landed very hard indeed and a wheel seemed to come loose. Rubber seemed to fly everywhere and the aircraft looked quite unstable...

What surprised me was the Captain brought her to a stand still, on the runway and the fire brigade attended. There was no fire or smoke and the aircraft taxied to stand about ten minutes later.

It was on the news that night (we are talking like 1997) never heard anything more of it…

Scary Stuff!

Kimberly


User currently offlineAussie747 From Australia, joined Aug 2003, 1163 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 9311 times:

When the landing gear strut broke off of on a QF 743 in Rome back in 2000 did Qantas get rid of them all - NO .So why should AA get rid of the A300's?????

User currently offlineGeoffm From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 2111 posts, RR: 6
Reply 18, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 9227 times:

Saw them changing TWO burst tyres on a TG A300 last year... one which I was about to board with the same pilots that had just landed it! Maybe hit the deck hard, I don't know. This was at HKT.

Geoff M.


User currently offlineCol From Malaysia, joined Nov 2003, 2107 posts, RR: 22
Reply 19, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 9056 times:

The pax got off and walked away = Successful mission. Don't care whom made the plane.

I think we should all know by now that when we have an incident with an Airbus, or Boeing, we have the children on the site whom get involved. By not replying, the kids get tired and hopefully have a nap and forget about the topic, my two year old does!


User currently offlineWarren747sp From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1161 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 8995 times:

AT least the tail stayed on this time which attest to the strength of the A-300 on the ground! I think AA use it more like a freighter than passenger plane.
I go out of way not to fly this type with AA.



747SP
User currently offlineIluv2pilot From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 95 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 8822 times:

Go to www.ntsb.gov and look for the report sometime in the next few weeks.

User currently offline4jaded From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 248 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 8788 times:

Wish I was there Love the drama of a good incident. Too bad they didn't throw the pax out of the plane via the slides LOL Nothing like a good SCAREBUS ride to get the old heart pumping !!! Everyone needs to take a pill these little adventures happen to all airlines in all types of planes all the time. However having worked for AA for 15 years /not anymore/ I can say two things about this incident that has come up in this post. First I am no big fan of the A300-600R it lifts a lot of freight and passengers but it basically is not the most reliable plane. Second we used to call them the REPAIRBUS and Scarebus for two reasons. They like to break down a lot and based upon the size of the fleet at AA and the number of flights this fleet takes daily as compared to other AA types it seems the Airbus has had more incidents, evacuations etc than any other type AA operates if taken as an overall percentage. That is just the facts !!! Sorry to burst everyone's Airbus bubble.

User currently offlineRoberta From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 8725 times:

Probably the dodgy mechanics at AA

User currently offline4jaded From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 248 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 8636 times:

Well Roberta that may be some of the problem but the overall incidents are not the mechanics issue they are the planes. The MD-11's were also difficult to keep flying as they were just about as temperamental as the A300's but they sure had a lot less evacuations, dramas, etc....

25 Roberta : no i was just kidding. but maybe the AA maitenance team think with a Boeing (as they have a lot of Boeing) way when repairng planes, which is not suit
26 4jaded : Yes I do and that's true to some extent. Some airlines have better luck with certain types of planes than others. The mechanics just seem to "get it".
27 ATLhomeCMH : A340600: Yea, us typical Americans, calling it like it is. I'm surprised there wasn't more damage to the aircraft. Kudos to the pilos for keeping it u
28 PC12Driver : Probably the dodgy mechanics at AA That's a pretty bold statement to make. I personally know several AA A&Ps and all of them take great pride in their
29 Roberta : Sorry if the facts offend your "Airbus-can-do-no-wrong" outlook. hmmm you clearly missed reply 25
30 4jaded : Thanks PC12Driver, You are right on the money!
31 LMP737 : Roberta: Just to let you know AA mechanics who work the A300 are trained to work on the A300. The A300 has been in AA's fleet long enough for the AMT'
32 Hugo : AA's Airbuses- for whatever reason- are falling apart!!! A tail here...a wheel there...what's next?!! It's not only the cabins that are tatty. They si
33 PSU.DTW.SCE : You people are all idiots, I swear. Especially you Hugo, for making such an ignorant comment. This sort of stuff happens on a semi-regular basis. Yes
34 BlueJet : I was on a Song flight to Hartford the other day and the tire burst. PSU.DTW...chill. I've been on the A300, both times there were problems. It is not
35 4jaded : Hello PSU.DTW.SCE You seem to have a real axe to grind with the world! HHHMMMM lets see about this the whole world is wrong and I am right...whats wro
36 PSU.DTW.SCE : Look, What I'm saying here, not directed at you, but read some of the above posts. "The wheel fell off, they should all be retired." "They're failing
37 Warren747sp : @Roberta Last time Airbus supporter blame the CO mechanics. This time it's the AA mechanics. What a conveneient way to write off A-300 Reliability pro
38 AAR90 : 4jaded, very well said. I read the daily briefs everyday for 17 years about the previous days operations which was broken down by fleet type of all th
39 Jfernandez : Is there any HONEST and SCIENTIFIC assessment of A300 vs. other similar plane types, as far as mechanical issues per cycle or something?
40 4jaded : Jfernandez, I don't know other than internal reports generated by the airlines themselves that operate similar types. Then it is merely a matter or do
41 Sebolino : HA HA HA. hence, why these aircraft need to go in my opinion A 747 lost a wheel while in air upon the town Schiltigheim just before landing at Strasbo
42 Aa717driver : AA uses the A300's as trucks. They haul people and cargo back and forth to the Carribean all day and night. These airplanes get flogged. They live in
43 Ltbewr : If these a/c were so unsafe, then AA would dump them or their insurance carrier wouldn't insure them any longer or at a much higher premium. It's all
44 LostinSoCal : Wait a sec! An AA A-300 in a hard landing and all anyone can think of is whether the gear is weak. NO ONE suggested an immediate inspection of the ver
45 Trident2e : The level of debate on this forum can only be described as infantile. Most of those who posted on this thread need to act their age rather than their
46 4jaded : Now that was constructive ! Instead of name calling perhaps you could share all of your years of wisdom and shoe size with us.
47 Trident2e : My years of wisdom would be wasted on you.
48 Blackbird1331 : The sky is falling! The sky is falling! Chicken Little.
49 4jaded : OOOOOhhhhhh well I guess I will just have to stay as ignorant as I am. Perhaps you could start a new web sight just for yourself. And then you can hav
50 Post contains links American762 : Calm down, the largest airline in the world makes a hard landing and a tire falls off. Lets retire the entire AA A300 fleet. Oh lord. A runaway tire i
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