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User currently offlinePizzaandplanes From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3792 times:

Does anyone know where there are good spotting places at ewr and at what times?

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User currently offlineCOEWRNJ From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1064 posts, RR: 19
Reply 1, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3755 times:

Pizzaandplanes,
Welcome to airliners.net. There really is no good place to spot at EWR. No matter where you go they will remove you. I've tried to spot at the IKEA across the turnpike twice in the last few months and have been escorted out both times. Somewhere in this forum it was discussed about a week ago that the PANYNJ is very strict about it and does not allow any spotting.


User currently offlineJhooper From United States of America, joined Dec 2001, 6202 posts, RR: 12
Reply 2, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 3725 times:

How about the airport tram?


Last year 1,944 New Yorkers saw something and said something.
User currently offlinePlaneviewNYC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 3717 times:

How about the airport tram?

They don't even let you take pictures of the trains. Nevermind taking pics of planes from the train platforms.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy


User currently offlineFlybynight From Norway, joined Jul 2003, 1005 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3702 times:

I used to be able to drive down the service road between the runway and the turnpike. I would imagine you can't stay there long. Some of the long-term parking at the north end of the runway is great spot for snapping pictures of planes coming in for a landing.


Heia Norge!
User currently offlineBritPilot777 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 1075 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3675 times:

Do you guys all feel that in flight of world situations, that the security is to strict?
I mean, ive just taken my camera out at the airport and have had like 10 security guards, police and airport officials right on top of me.



Forever Flight
User currently offlineBlackbird1331 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1893 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 3662 times:

The PA police are an independent agency. They set their own rules. As individuals, nice people. As an agency, as tough as any other government oranization.

I can understand the argument of not shooting pictures in terminals and parts of the airport but never will accept not being able to shoot planes in flight. The net and libraies are chuck full of information about any plane ever built. Getting a fantastic shot of an airplane is a personal triumph. I feel the courts have an obligation to protect our rights to "spot". Proper signage should be posted in sensitive areas. And a spoters area should be designated at all major airports.



Cameras shoot pictures. Guns shoot people. They have the guns.
User currently offlineTjwgrr From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2425 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3639 times:

Take it from someone who has been interrogated, threatened, and escorted out from various spotting areas several times at EWR- you may not want to bother spotting at EWR. The PA even uses a helicopter to periodically patrol the perimeter at EWR.

The now enclosed indoor cafe at IKEA may be about the only place where you won't be bothered, but views there can be limited.



Direct KNOBS, maintain 2700' until established on the localizer, cleared ILS runway 26 left approach.
User currently offlineFlyinghighboy From Australia, joined Aug 2001, 749 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3627 times:

Oh dear, I'm spending two nights at EWR at an airport hotel and planned to do some spotting while I was around, sounds like I won't be anymore!!!

User currently offlineBlackbird1331 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1893 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3616 times:

Some of the hotels are actually the best spots. Understand the rules before you pull out the camera. Good luck. And please share your experience with us.


Cameras shoot pictures. Guns shoot people. They have the guns.
User currently offlineFlyinghighboy From Australia, joined Aug 2001, 749 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3567 times:

In the food court areas of the terminal (can't remember which one) there are some good areas that have a great view of the aircraft close by, I guess that is a no no then for taking pictures of them

User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6422 posts, RR: 17
Reply 11, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3550 times:

How about inside the CO terminal? Obviously, you have to be a pax.


Listen Betty, don't start up with your 'White Zone' s*** again.
User currently offlineCOEWRNJ From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1064 posts, RR: 19
Reply 12, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 3533 times:

"The now enclosed indoor cafe at IKEA may be about the only place where you won't be bothered"

Wrong!!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy I was escorted out of there over spring break. Basically the cop who took me out of there said spotting at EWR is totally off limits. He said they have even stopped people from shooting from some of the near by hotels.

727LOVER
I've heard that the gate agents will stop you from taking pictures of the terminal C gate area as well.

I know EWR is so close to NYC and all, but is taking pictures that much of a security risk? As I've said before I spent 11 hours one Saturday taking pictures from the top of the terminal 3 & 4 parking garages at PHX and no one said a word. Does anyone know if JFK and LGA are as strict as EWR.


User currently offlineFutterman From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1301 posts, RR: 44
Reply 13, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 3521 times:

In the food court areas of the terminal (can't remember which one) there are some good areas that have a great view of the aircraft close by, I guess that is a no no then for taking pictures of them

That sounds like the LGA food court. It's on ground level, and there's you, a window, and the ramp. Not too shabby, but can get a bit boring at times. For me, at least.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy


COEWRNJ: All three being owned by the PANYNJ, there's not bound to be much of a difference between spotting regulations at LGA, JFK, and EWR.

JFK: Haven't really spotted from anywhere on airport property. No problems there. Don't know of any serious incidences at Howard Beach, or the Costco parking lot on Rockaway Blvd. People sometimes call the cops, but again, I'm not aware of anybody ever being chased away. Not to say it hasn't happened.

LGA: Probably the best of the three, in terms of getting close(r) to the action. Planeview Park (04), Hermon A. McNeil Park (22), and the World's Fair Marina (31) will set you up for the most common runway configurations. It's also damn decent in the terminal itself, as there are many windows in the public area that offer good views.


You can try contacting the Media Relations department of the PANYNJ and let them know what you'll be doing (ie: photographs) at any of the three airports (esp inside the LGA terminal). Email me for more information.


-Brian



What the FUTT?
User currently offlineBsmalls35 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 3488 times:

Plane spotting at ewr is now just a memory. Gone are the legendary spots at IKEA and the Virgin Atlantic Cargo terminal. A few months ago, I arrived at ewr early for a flight and had lunch at the friday's restaurant in terminal A. If you sit in the back by the window you can get a decent view of arriving and departing planes. The restaurant is before the security checkpoint. Also, you get good views from the monorail platforms but am unsure how long you can stay there before security whisks you away.

User currently offlineDanny From Poland, joined Apr 2002, 3508 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 3471 times:

Someone must sue them one day. Maybe that would teach them something. I don't see how Police can remove you from IKEA restaurant - where is the law?

User currently offlineBigOrange From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 2364 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 3456 times:

Danny

IKEA is private property, they can have you removed for trespass unless you are shopping or eating in the restaurant. I was asked to leave the parking deck about a year ago and have not been back since. I've driven through a few times and stopped to get a few numbers but never had a long stay there.

Pizzaandplanes

If you are staying in an airport hotel, many of them have views and if you have a scanner you can note flight numbers, then tie them up from the BTS website or from the ACARS lists on the NYC Yahoo Group.
LGA you can sit on the rocking chairs or in the food court. The police may check you out but they usually let you stay if you are polite-no guarantees though! JFK the only places are Howard Beach or down in the Rockaways, dependent on runways.

I think the problem with EWR is because the NYC skyline is highly visible and they don't want to give terrorists ideas. If you want CO aircraft spend a few days in Houston where the viewing areas have been reopened, thanks to the efforts of Jeff DeVore in the run-up to Super Bowl.


User currently offlineTjwgrr From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2425 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 3420 times:

"IKEA is private property, they can have you removed for trespass unless you are shopping or eating in the restaurant. I was asked to leave the parking deck about a year ago and have not been back since. I've driven through a few times and stopped to get a few numbers but never had a long stay there."
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C'mon people - common sense dictates that if you plan on sitting in IKEA's restaurant, you should be a paying customer. I would certainly have a coke and a sandwich, and even an item or two from the store in front of me before I set up shop spotting from their restaurant. I'd forget the monster binoculars and keep the scanner concealed using an ear piece too.....



Direct KNOBS, maintain 2700' until established on the localizer, cleared ILS runway 26 left approach.
User currently offlinePJS800 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 242 posts, RR: 6
Reply 18, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3384 times:

I'm going to send an email over to Media Relations at the PANYNJ and see what they have to say about it. Hopefully I will be able to get some type of answer from them. I'll let you know what they have to say.

PJ Smile


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