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User currently offlineMusapapaya From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 1075 posts, RR: 0
Posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 3950 times:

Hello,

Just a quick question - JFK and EWR, which of them is more conviently located?

I have no idea how new york looks like, would someone let me know more about this. cheers




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User currently offlineAsuflyer05 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2371 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 3861 times:

It's faster to get into midtown from Newark. You take the AirTrain to the NJTransit station and take the NJTransit train into New York-Penn Station. I would say it takes no more than 30 minutes.

You may want to try doing a search because I think this thread popped up a few weeks ago and there was some good info in it.  Smile

Matt


User currently offlineBlackbird1331 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1893 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 3845 times:

Looking for tourism? I think ewr is as convienient as jfk but cheaper. good transportation to NYC.


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User currently offlinePetazulu From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 701 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 3786 times:

It depends when you arrive. If you will land during rush hour- the tunnel to NYC can take forever from EWR. I would say JFK is more convenient to the East side of Manhattan. If you are taking public transportation, the air train from EWR is better.

User currently offlineBigB From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 596 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 3635 times:

Depends where ya trying to go in NYC. Too me, if ya trying to get into downtown manhattan, your best option is EWR. Just take the train from EWR into NJ transit station and a train to Penn Station. From there just use subways or cabs to get around Manhattan.

JFK is good if you trying to get to the east side of Manhattan, Queens and areas along long island. You can take the airtrain from JFK to Long Island RR Jamica Station, and transfer there and take a train to Manhattan, but it takes longer compare to NJ transit ride from EWR.




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User currently offlineTonyBurr From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 1021 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 3588 times:

No comparison! From EWR take the train ( New Jersey Transit is a lot cheaper then Amtrak and takes about the same amount of time). No worries about the tunnel traffic obviously. JFK is far and very, very expensive to NYC. The train from EWR takes you right to the heart of Manhattan. No question on this one! AVOID JFK for New York!

User currently offlineCOEWRNJ From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1064 posts, RR: 19
Reply 6, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 3539 times:

As everyone else has said, fly into EWR and take the train. The ride is all of about thirty minutes and costs some where right around $11. Just make sure you use the NJ Transit trains and not the Amtrak. The Amtrak will cost you around $30 one-way. The trains from EWR to NY Penn Station run about every 30min and even more frequently during week day peak hours.

User currently offlineRjpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 3505 times:

If you want to fly into the premier international gateway of the US, fly into JFK. It is the LHR of the US. As an aviation buff, you should fly into JFK on terms of avation alone....That said, depending on where you are going in NYC, EWR might be easier for you

Where are you going?
Do you prefer a cab or public transportation?

If you answer those two questions, many members of this forum will be able to give you the best directions.


User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16817 posts, RR: 51
Reply 8, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 3461 times:

"Just a quick question - JFK and EWR, which of them is more conviently located?"

This discussion comes up alot, I like to tell who are visiting NY to fly into one airport and out another. That way you get to see two airports, and decide yourself which one works better for you.

As mentioned for Lower Manhattan (Tribeca, Soho, Battery Park City, Chelsea, World Trade Center, Wall Street) EWR is by far the most conveinent.
When it comes to Mid-Town Manhattan (Times Square, Herald Square etc) EWR and JFK are equal distances (15 miles), however driving times can vary. NJ has excellent highways ( NJ Turnpike) which have very few delays and relatively fast speeds, however all traffic to Manhattan from NJ most go through 3 crossings.

Holland Tunnel (Lower Manhattan)
Lincoln Tunnel (Mid-Town)
George Washington Bridge (Harlem, Bronx, Marble Hill, Columbia University).

The opposite is true for the ride from JFK to Manhattan, there are twice as many crossings from Queens to the Island of Manhattan. However the highways in Queens are terrible, and traffic crawls on some notorious portions like the Van Wyck.



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User currently offlineMusapapaya From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 1075 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3409 times:

thanks,

i may want to use public transport...
but its a good idea to fly into one airport and get out of the other. I dont know where i am going though!!!!! hahaha...

maybe there is a chance for me to come in july, but i am not sure yet. may not have enough pennys for the ticket!

cheers everyone! have a good day!



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User currently offlineMusapapaya From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 1075 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3407 times:

i think i was blind, EWR Vs JFK instead of Via as written before...


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User currently offlineFlyboy36y From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3039 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3399 times:

Newark is BY FAR the worst airport. I would use JFK. Its actually IN New York City....

User currently offline4jaded From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 248 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 3284 times:

EWR is the bomb. Very easy to get into NYC from there. JFK can be a real pain in the butt. I have taken 8 trips to NYC so far this year and I prefer EWR over any other NYC airport. Just my opinion Sorry JFK lovers

User currently offlineJFKLGANYC From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 3378 posts, RR: 5
Reply 13, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 3175 times:

First off, this topic comes up once a week and is getting old quickly.  Smile
Second, when you ask what is more convenient, where are you going?

JFK is located in the southern part of Queens, New Yock City, NY. Where as EWR is located just outside of Newark, NJ.

If we are talking Manhattan, you get there from JFK via the Van Wyck Expressway (I-678) and Long Island Expwy (I-495). The total trip is 16 miles to midtown--where all the hotels and tourists sights are. This trip at midnight can be 20 minutes--according to a Seinfeld episode--but at rush hour, and most of the day the Van Wyck is a mess.

From EWR, you can take the Holland Tunnel or Lincoln Tunnel into Manhattan. They both leave you on the West Side of Manhattan 3 blocks away from the action. However, these three blocks can take a very long time. Also, every single day, and I do mean every single day, all year long, no matter what, the Lincoln and Holland Tunnels have 30 to 60 minute delays at one point or another to get into or out of the city.
THERE IS NO TRAFFIC SITUATION IN ANY PART OF THE WORLD WORSE THAN THAT! And I emphasize that.

By car, JFK gives you more options because you don't have to cross the Hudson River--just the East River, which from the top of Manhattan down has many more crossing most of which are free.

As for this statement above, "No comparison! From EWR take the train ( New Jersey Transit is a lot cheaper then Amtrak and takes about the same amount of time). No worries about the tunnel traffic obviously. JFK is far and very, very expensive to NYC. The train from EWR takes you right to the heart of Manhattan. No question on this one! AVOID JFK for New York! "
COULDN'T BE FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH.
The AirTrain from JFK is a far superior and quicker system than AirTrain Newark.
If you are worried about cost it's a $5 ride on the AirTrain, and a $2 ride on the subway into Manhattan--that $7, no questions asked. By far the cheapest ride from a NY area airport to Manhattan. Total trip to the East side is 60 minutes.
If time is an issue--use the Railroad after the AirTrain. At $7, it's still cheaper than EWR and quicker too.

PJ


User currently offlineBsmalls35 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 3111 times:

Just took the train from EWR to downtown Newark this morning. My plane landed at 8:20 this morning, I de-planed by 8:30 and was in my office in downtown Newark before 9:00. If you are going to downtown or midtown NY, figure a 30-40 minute commute from your gate or luggage carousel (if you have bags.) If you do decide to fly into Newark and take NJ Transit, I suggest that you buy your tickets in the terminal at the monorail stop instead of at the NJ transit train station as there is usually a long line to use the automated ticket machines.

User currently offlineAA787 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 610 posts, RR: 12
Reply 15, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3008 times:

As a New Yorker...I think EWR is very convenient and functional. HOWEVER, if I had to choose between the two I would choose JFK. It is just a really cool place. Its like picking Yankee Stadium over Shea, They are both equal except Yankee Stadium has something about it that makes it special. The same goes for JFK.

AA787



ET In NYC
User currently offlineAirways6max From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 494 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2992 times:

I think they're both equally bad.

User currently offlineBigOrange From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 2364 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2919 times:

If you are taking public transport and you are going to Lower Manhattan, take NJ Transit from EWR to Newark Penn Station and then take the Path Train into the city. If you are going to Midtown or Central Park area take NJ Transit all the way to New York Penn Station.
Don't take a taxi or Shuttle service, you'll sit in traffic forever.

If you are coming into JFK take one of the Shuttle van's, it won't be a comfortable ride because of all the potholes, but it's easier than trying to get on the Subway.





User currently offlineUN_B732 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 4289 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2863 times:

JFK is a dumpy airport; but depends on the terminal.
I hate JFK; It's probably my least favorite airport, I mean it has a lot of diversified traffic; but that's about it.
THere's nothing "premier" about JFK.
I prefer Burlington VT to it anyday!
-Mr. X



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User currently offlineMark777300 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 388 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2747 times:

Well as resident of NY and as a Conductor for the Long Island Railroad, I can tell you that it is actually faster and cheaper if you take the AirTrain to Jamaica station and hop on any LIRR train thats going to NY Penn Station. You don't have wait long, in fact on weekdays, the most you may have to wait at Jamaica is at least 10 minutes per train. The ride into Penn is no more than 15 minutes. The ride on AirTrain is about 10 minutes between the airport and Jamaica. $5.00 for the AirTrain and $4.75 off-peak, $6.75-peak if you but the tickets at Jamaica. Buying the ticket on-board will be $3.00 extra from the regular price.

In the past, i have gone to EWR on NJ Transit and AirTrain, and it wasn't that short of a ride from Penn station as people say it is. It took more than 30 minutes to get there. LIRR trains run very frequent even after midnight hours 24 hrs a day. Rememebr that Jamaica is a very important hub for the LIRR and veryone of it's branches with the exception of one runs through it, so you will never wait long for a train to NYC. NJ transit's schedule is less frequent especially on weekends and late nights, and you most likely will have to wait long for each train. Don't even think about driving from either one of these airports or by taxi because it can be a real nightmare especially during rush hours, and don't think that the roads are empty during the weekend either!


User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16817 posts, RR: 51
Reply 20, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2660 times:

AA787,

You got it backwards, it's Newark Airport that has the history and prestige.

Newark Airport was NYC's FIRST(!) airport, Charles Linbergh and Amelia Aerhart were there to open the airport (does anyone even know who was at Idlewilds opening?..).

Newark Airport was the first airport in the World with a Control Tower, Paved Runway, Lighted Runways etc.. It also had the first passenger terminal and first airport hotel (inside the terminal).

Newark Airport also served as a major Army Airfield During WWII, most aircraft heading to the European Thearter were flown to Newark Army Airfield and placed on ships at adjacent Port Newark for the trip to England.

JFK/Idlewild was a very poorly planned airport, only recently has the Port Authority been able to change that but it has cost nearly $9.3 Billion. I would say JFK is more like MSG, it has a prestigious recent history but it was poorly planned and ugly.

Yankee stadium had Ruth, Gerig.

Newark Airport had Earhart and Lindbergh.



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User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16817 posts, RR: 51
Reply 21, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2608 times:

Just a footnote..

Yankee Stadium opened in 1923, Newark Airport opened in 1928.

So Newark Airport and Yankee Stadium are "almost" the same age.




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User currently offlineFlyguy1 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1738 posts, RR: 4
Reply 22, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2509 times:

EWR more prestigous than JFK, must have been all those Concorde flights at EWR Big grin.


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User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16817 posts, RR: 51
Reply 23, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2475 times:

Concorde is gone, today there's Private Air's all Business class BBJs and A319s from EWR to Munich and Dusseldorf.

And starting this Summer the only nonstop flight from NYC (EWR) to Singapore, aboard Singapore's A340-500.



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User currently offlineCory6188 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2686 posts, RR: 6
Reply 24, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2459 times:

I think that EWR is a much nicer airport in terms of facilities. Although it depends on which terminal at JFK you are using, I find it to be an all-around dump.

If you decide to go into EWR, assuming you take a non-stop from London, you have either BA, VS, or CO as your choices. BA and VS fly out of LHR and CO flies out of LGW. BA and VS will arrive into Terminal B at the international arrivals area that all the international pax (except for those from CO) use. It can get extremely chaotic at times, especially when all of the Europe flights arrive. If you decide to take CO, you will arrive into their newly-built, architecturally stunning C-3 concourse of Terminal C (CO's hub), which has its own FIS (immigration/customs) facility. It seems to be much quicker for pax due to the fact that it is used by CO only.

EWR is also extremely pax-friendly on your way out as well, especially in Terminal C (although B has also undergone renovations and is nice as well). CO's terminal has a ton of stores (the retail is operated by Westfield, a company which has quite a few malls around the world) and places to eat.

If you aren't going out of London (your profile doesn't specify where you live), then CO is your prime option for NYC. They have a major hub at EWR, and fly to LGW, MAN, BHX, DUB, SNN, and soon EDI to EWR.

Also, if you want to take a side trip somewhere else in the US, CO flies almost everywhere from EWR. B6 is also a growing option out of JFK if you want to experience their famed service.

As for convenience, EWR used to have an edge over JFK with the AirTrain, but now that both airports have it, I'd say that they're equal as far as efficiency for getting into the city.

Hope this helps.


25 Flyguy1 : STT you are so biased toward JFK, and NYC. Bad experience there? BTW, I am going to my first Yankee game on Saturday at the Stadium.
26 COAB767 : I would defininetly fly into EWR and take the train.
27 STT757 : Biased heck no, JFK is my second favorite airport. I spent many days as a kid on the roof of the Pan Am terminal. I've been meaning to get out and see
28 LH121GLA : Cory6188 'They have a major hub at EWR, and fly to LGW, MAN, BHX, DUB, SNN, and soon EDI to EWR' CO have also had a service to GLA for about 5 years n
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