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ORD Weather Delays Today :(  
User currently offlineMikeM2648 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 102 posts, RR: 0
Posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 3785 times:

It is a bad day for Ohare travelers! I'm sitting on UA661 on the taxiway in EWR right now and have been for about 50 mins. Captain is saying potentially 2hrs more before we depart. Is the weather in ORD really that bad today? Is it normal to keep pax on the plane for such a long delay? Eco plus isn't bad but the lack of food is going to be an issue! I've resigned myself to the fact that I'll be missing my connection and overnighting in ORD  Sad.

-Mike

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User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 3753 times:

>>>I've resigned myself to the fact that I'll be missing my connection and overnighting in ORD

Not an absolute certainty here, but just something to keep in mind, but it's entirely possible that the flight that you were going to connect to at ORD is -also- late, so you might make it.

The weather isn't so much in the ORD area proper, it's basically in the NE quadrant from ORD, and the Pullman (PMM) arrival is the problem, since the weather has it pretty much covered up. All the traffic that would normally use PMM is having to come in from the SE, along with all the other traffic that normally comes in that way. (The proverbial 2x demand versus 1x capacity).



User currently offlineMikeM2648 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 102 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 3722 times:

Thanks for the inside scoop  Smile The captain has channel 9 turned off (bummer) so I am out of the loop. Captain just said one more hour until our next update (making it 2 hours from when we started to taxi). He said ATC cannot make up their mind and has gone all over the board from 1 more hour to 4 more hours in terms of our wheels up time. As long as the laptop battery holds out I'll manage! Does dominos deliver to taxi-way alpha in EWR?

-Mike


User currently offlineMikeM2648 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 102 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3687 times:

OPNLguy,
Is there anyway to get status updates on which arrivals are opened / closed or new wheels up times for flights on the internet ..or does that require a scanner in ORD? Thanks,

-Mike


User currently offlineScottysAir From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3630 times:

I can tell you something, Guys!! We were in ORD from last year of July 2003. It is very long delayed because with events of the weather. It is nothing wrong with those weather in ORD. I saw alot of those airplanes in ORD. It is terrible for us. I did miss with my B767-400 flight to FLL and they did make me for my next flight to FLL on the B767-300 at 6:55pm.

User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3630 times:

The ATCSCC website will give general info on ground stops, and (sometimes) what arrivals may be open/closed but airline-specific info on wheels-up times comes into the airline itself, and I'm not aware of of any place it's available on the net. DTW is getting hammered too...

Where are you connecting to?


User currently offlinePilottim747 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1607 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3627 times:

That's too bad that the capitain turned off channel 9 on you. My best in-aircraft delay was a 2 hour delay on the Scenic Hold Pad at ORD waiting for a thunderstorms to clear. The captain had channel 9 on the whole time and time flew by. It was so interesting hearing the controlers and aircraft that night.

pilottim747



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User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7711 posts, RR: 27
Reply 7, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3600 times:

Central PA is covered in T-storms which I'm sure is affecting traffic into the NYC and PHL area. Usually most westbound traffic in and out of NYC flies over this year. I'm sure New York Center is loving it.

By the way, get used to it, I have a feeling ORD is going to be horrendous this summer in terms of delays, something we haven't seen in the past 2-3 summers. The number of flights at ORD is up to where it was in 2000, although many more RJ flights than before. This means, whenever the weather craps out, traffic delays into ORD will certainly bottleneck. Throw some wind in the mix, and ORD goes down to 2 runways, then it becomes a real mess. I got to experience that a few weeks ago. When connecting avoid ORD simply due to the delay factor.


User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3562 times:

If your laptop battery still has juice and you get this, they now have storms SW of the ORD/MDW areas moving NE, and they expect wx at the airport within the hour...so, more delays...

I hope you have your pajamas in your carry-on bag--you may need them....  Big grin


User currently offlineUnited_Fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7522 posts, RR: 7
Reply 9, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3541 times:

Sounds like when I flew LAS-ORD on UA last July. 4 hours waiting on the ground (in 110 degree heat) before ground-stop into ORD was lifted. Not fun!


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User currently offlineSHUPirate1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3670 posts, RR: 16
Reply 10, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3536 times:

Good god...according to UA's website, they are estimating arrival into ORD at 10:14 PM CDT...which I'm assuming means you'll have an hour or so at least until wheels-up...


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User currently offlineLEO777 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 112 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3532 times:

The weather at ORD was great, it was about 93 Fahrenheit or 32 Celsius with sunny skies until about 6:30 pm, we are now expecting thunderstorms and Im looking out my window and it looks like we might get a couple of tornadoes also... I hope you make it to ORD but I see your chances of making it here very, very slim. Weather is turning really bad.


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User currently offlineSHUPirate1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3670 posts, RR: 16
Reply 12, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3526 times:

Sweet jesus...LGA, EWR, PHL, ATL, DTW, MDW, ORD, MSP all have some sort of traffic management program in place...good thing I didn't go anywhere this weekend for work...


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User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3526 times:

You'll also be thrilled to know that once they do cut 661 EWR-ORD loose, it appears that you'll be coming into ORD via SSM and TVC, so enjoy the "polar" route...  Big grin



User currently offlineSHUPirate1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3670 posts, RR: 16
Reply 14, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3516 times:

REQUESTING
PROVIDING
RESTRICTION
START TIME
STOP TIME

ZAU
ZID
DTW VHP 20MIT JETS RALT 2230-0045 ZAU/ZID
05/09/2004 2230
05/10/2004 0045

ZAU
ZID
ORD FWA 30MIT JETS 2010-0100 ZAU/ZID
05/09/2004 2010
05/10/2004 0100

ZAU
ZID
ORD OKK 15MIT JETS 2010-0100 ZAU/ZID
05/09/2004 2010
05/10/2004 0100

ZAU
ZID/ZOB
MDW BVT/FWA/J60/LFD 25MIT PER ROUTE/RALT 2100-0100 ZAU/ZID/ZOB
05/09/2004 2100
05/10/2004 0100

ZAU
ZKC
ORD BDF 20MIT JETS (2 x 20) EXCL: NO CAP PNT 2000-0100 ZAU/ZKC
05/09/2004 2000
05/10/2004 0100

ZAU
ZOB
DTW DUNKS 30MIT AOA FL200 EXCL: ORD MKE LTFC EXEMPT 2300-0130 ZAU/ZOB
05/09/2004 2300
05/10/2004 0130

ZAU
ZOB
ORD OXI 30MIT 2010-0100 ZAU/ZOB
05/09/2004 2010
05/10/2004 0100

ZOB
ZAU
DTW FWA 30MIT JETS 2245-0100 ZOB/ZAU
05/09/2004 2245
05/10/2004 0100

ZOB
ZAU
DTW POLAR 20MIT JETS 2245-0100 ZOB/ZAU
05/09/2004 2245
05/10/2004 0100

Figured I'd simply post all of the restrictions referring to ZAU (Chicago Center ATC)...OPNLguy, please decipher these...



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User currently offlineLEO777 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 112 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3499 times:

I just checked Weahter Scan Channel and its calling the delays at ORD for 240 minutes!


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User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3473 times:

>>>OPNLguy, please decipher these...

Not an ATC person, mind you, but basically, the ATC facilities that are all getting whacked by the weather are all specifying what kind of miles-in-trail (MIT) separation they want between aircraft. The normal 5-10 miles is up to 25-30 miles, and it's to account for aircraft deviating around weather.


User currently offlineSHUPirate1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3670 posts, RR: 16
Reply 17, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3461 times:

Your flight to LAN, it appears, is taking off at 10:15...I hate to tell you this, but you might want to get your pajamas out of your carry-on...


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User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 3408 times:

For those still interested in MikeM2648's saga, his flight 661 EWR-ORD is now actually airborne, but he's taking the long way around the weather via Sault St. Marie and Traverse City Michigan, about 3 hours enroute...

Will he make his connection, or will he be stranded with 57,000 other misconnected passengers?

(Maybe he'll tell us, eventually....)  Big grin


User currently offlineSHUPirate1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3670 posts, RR: 16
Reply 19, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 3384 times:

Good news for MikeM2648: flight 661 is estimated by UA to arrive at gate C26 at 10:31, and flight 7690 is estimated to depart from gate F-12 at 11:00...he'll have to do the long walk between terminals at ORD, but he could be alright if he high-tails it...


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User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 3367 times:

My ASD shows UA661 into ORD at 0348Z/2248C, based on the re-route via northern Michigan. They could theoretically cut the corner around the end of the weather at Alpena MI, and get in a tad earlier, but it's hard to say if that will happen due to all the traffic. It's still also possible than his ORD-LAN flight will be delayed beyond what is posted.

Ooooh, the drama....  Big grin


User currently offlineSHUPirate1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3670 posts, RR: 16
Reply 21, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 3355 times:

OPNLguy-for his sake, could you get us an update on Blue Ridge 690?


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User currently offlineMojo89 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 123 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 3354 times:

MikeM2648... Take the new express bus at C-9. It will drop you at E-3 and save 10-15 minutes. Not that he'll see this, but it is good info for the rest of us.


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User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 3328 times:

>>>could you get us an update on Blue Ridge 690?

I tried ACA690 but didn't get anything displayed, but I'm not sure if that's their three-letter code... Know what points 690 operates between?








User currently offlineSHUPirate1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3670 posts, RR: 16
Reply 24, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 3310 times:

It's BLR690...it's his ORD-LAN flight...


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25 OPNLguy : Don't show it, but then again, it's still an hour from the most current departure time... Too bad we don't know what BLR flight is turning out as 690.
26 SHUPirate1 : According to my detective work, the flight that represents BLR (Atlantic Coast) 690 is Blue Ridge 557 from Jacksonville...according to UA's website, g
27 OPNLguy : My ASD shows BLR557 on a re-route via STL MAGOO BDF and into ORD from the SW, eta 2241c, so that's close to UA661, and ghe may make it yet...
28 Post contains images OPNLguy : Just noticed that UAL661 got to cut the corner at Alpena, and didn't have to go all the way to SSM. As a result, his ETA is now :10 earlier at 0338Z,
29 Trvlr : I was on American 66 DFW-ORD today (777!), and we almost got stuck in a holding pattern. Luckily (for me, at least), it seems like most of the delays
30 Post contains images OPNLguy : MikeM2648, If you read this, let us know if you made it...
31 *HighFlyah* : Looks like EWR-ORD UA 661 made it in at 10:25pm and his connection ORD-LAN on UA 7690 didn't depart until 11:33pm partially because the inbound aircra
32 MikeM2648 : I made it!! When We landed in Ohare at C8 at 10:30 the boards were showing 10:40 for the lansing flight from F11 so I ran. I think i deserve a medal!
33 Post contains images *HighFlyah* : Good to hear you got back safe and sound - looks like UA's EasyUpdate worked well and despite all the ATC/Weather issues, your bags didn't get lost...
34 Jsnww81 : I arrived into ORD yesterday at about 4:30pm on American 041 from Paris-CDG. There were storms out over the lake to the east and southeast, so instead
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