MikeM2648 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 102 posts, RR: 0 Posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3325 times:
It is a bad day for Ohare travelers! I'm sitting on UA661 on the taxiway in EWR right now and have been for about 50 mins. Captain is saying potentially 2hrs more before we depart. Is the weather in ORD really that bad today? Is it normal to keep pax on the plane for such a long delay? Eco plus isn't bad but the lack of food is going to be an issue! I've resigned myself to the fact that I'll be missing my connection and overnighting in ORD .
OPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 1, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3293 times:
>>>I've resigned myself to the fact that I'll be missing my connection and overnighting in ORD
Not an absolute certainty here, but just something to keep in mind, but it's entirely possible that the flight that you were going to connect to at ORD is -also- late, so you might make it.
The weather isn't so much in the ORD area proper, it's basically in the NE quadrant from ORD, and the Pullman (PMM) arrival is the problem, since the weather has it pretty much covered up. All the traffic that would normally use PMM is having to come in from the SE, along with all the other traffic that normally comes in that way. (The proverbial 2x demand versus 1x capacity).
MikeM2648 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 102 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3262 times:
Thanks for the inside scoop The captain has channel 9 turned off (bummer) so I am out of the loop. Captain just said one more hour until our next update (making it 2 hours from when we started to taxi). He said ATC cannot make up their mind and has gone all over the board from 1 more hour to 4 more hours in terms of our wheels up time. As long as the laptop battery holds out I'll manage! Does dominos deliver to taxi-way alpha in EWR?
ScottysAir From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 4, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3170 times:
I can tell you something, Guys!! We were in ORD from last year of July 2003. It is very long delayed because with events of the weather. It is nothing wrong with those weather in ORD. I saw alot of those airplanes in ORD. It is terrible for us. I did miss with my B767-400 flight to FLL and they did make me for my next flight to FLL on the B767-300 at 6:55pm.
OPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 5, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3170 times:
The ATCSCC website will give general info on ground stops, and (sometimes) what arrivals may be open/closed but airline-specific info on wheels-up times comes into the airline itself, and I'm not aware of of any place it's available on the net. DTW is getting hammered too...
Pilottim747 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1607 posts, RR: 5 Reply 6, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3167 times:
That's too bad that the capitain turned off channel 9 on you. My best in-aircraft delay was a 2 hour delay on the Scenic Hold Pad at ORD waiting for a thunderstorms to clear. The captain had channel 9 on the whole time and time flew by. It was so interesting hearing the controlers and aircraft that night.
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PSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7185 posts, RR: 29 Reply 7, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3140 times:
Central PA is covered in T-storms which I'm sure is affecting traffic into the NYC and PHL area. Usually most westbound traffic in and out of NYC flies over this year. I'm sure New York Center is loving it.
By the way, get used to it, I have a feeling ORD is going to be horrendous this summer in terms of delays, something we haven't seen in the past 2-3 summers. The number of flights at ORD is up to where it was in 2000, although many more RJ flights than before. This means, whenever the weather craps out, traffic delays into ORD will certainly bottleneck. Throw some wind in the mix, and ORD goes down to 2 runways, then it becomes a real mess. I got to experience that a few weeks ago. When connecting avoid ORD simply due to the delay factor.
LEO777 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 107 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3072 times:
The weather at ORD was great, it was about 93 Fahrenheit or 32 Celsius with sunny skies until about 6:30 pm, we are now expecting thunderstorms and Im looking out my window and it looks like we might get a couple of tornadoes also... I hope you make it to ORD but I see your chances of making it here very, very slim. Weather is turning really bad.
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OPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 16, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3013 times:
>>>OPNLguy, please decipher these...
Not an ATC person, mind you, but basically, the ATC facilities that are all getting whacked by the weather are all specifying what kind of miles-in-trail (MIT) separation they want between aircraft. The normal 5-10 miles is up to 25-30 miles, and it's to account for aircraft deviating around weather.
OPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 18, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2948 times:
For those still interested in MikeM2648's saga, his flight 661 EWR-ORD is now actually airborne, but he's taking the long way around the weather via Sault St. Marie and Traverse City Michigan, about 3 hours enroute...
Will he make his connection, or will he be stranded with 57,000 other misconnected passengers?
SHUPirate1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3670 posts, RR: 18 Reply 19, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2924 times:
Good news for MikeM2648: flight 661 is estimated by UA to arrive at gate C26 at 10:31, and flight 7690 is estimated to depart from gate F-12 at 11:00...he'll have to do the long walk between terminals at ORD, but he could be alright if he high-tails it...
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OPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 20, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2907 times:
My ASD shows UA661 into ORD at 0348Z/2248C, based on the re-route via northern Michigan. They could theoretically cut the corner around the end of the weather at Alpena MI, and get in a tad earlier, but it's hard to say if that will happen due to all the traffic. It's still also possible than his ORD-LAN flight will be delayed beyond what is posted.