Ua777222 From United States, joined Dec 2003, 2836 posts, RR: 15 Posted (5 years 2 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1349 times:
When speaking to an AA 767-300ER capt. who used to be a 777 capt. (before they made cuts and the ch. 11 goodness) he said that AA will become the largest operator of the 777 but not for a while b/c all orders have been placed on hold. Why is this and what current orders are on hold?
AAJAXFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 1, posted (5 years 2 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1270 times:
They don't need the capacity perhaps?
They have some aircraft already parked. I believe the last few widebodies were going straight to being spare aircraft in the schedule, though this may have changed now as it's been since about August.
PSU.DTW.SCE From United States, joined Jan 2002, 4751 posts, RR: 29 Reply 2, posted (5 years 2 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1220 times:
AA wanted to deffer all new deliveries post-9/11 as they didn't need the additional capacity, nor wanted to pay for them.
Thus AA took delivery of the balance of their 757 order in late 2001/early 2002.
-Deffered their 738 order by having Qautas take their immediate delivery slots and then deffering the remainder of the order to now resume in June 2006 where they still have 40 some 738's on order from 2006-2010.
-Could not deffered their outstanding 763's, thus taking delivery of 9 new ones in 2003
-Took delivery of 2 777's in 2003, and deffered the remaining 7-9 aircraft until 2006 and beyond.
Thus no new deliveries in 2004 or 2005 other than ERJ's and CR7's.
Cx123 From Australia, joined May 2004, 695 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (5 years 2 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1061 times:
If AA replaced all their A300 and 767 by the 777 thn this will definitely improve the overall image and hopefully new product offerings (New F Class and J Class)
Leskova From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 6075 posts, RR: 83 Reply 5, posted (5 years 2 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1014 times:
Cx123, if AA replaced all their A300s and B767s with B777s, then they'd be wasting huge amounts of money! Why fly a B777 on a route that does not need the range, capacity or an intercontinental Business- and First-Class?
There's a reason why AA hasn't replaced their A300s with B767s or B777s yet - and even though I don't have that in writing from AA, I seriously suspect that they're making money on those routes that they deploy the A300s on - and that they think that they could not sustantially improve the earnings by deploying B777s on those...
FlagshipAZ From United States, joined Jan 2001, 3408 posts, RR: 16 Reply 8, posted (5 years 2 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 859 times:
Just wanted to add & clarify here that only the 762s are being phased out. AA has 29 of them, and 14 have already been parked, never to fly for AA again. The 58 763s are staying around for quite awhile yet. Also the last of the F100s will be gone later this year. Speculation on my part only, but I think the next type to go will be the A300 fleet. If things gets worse for AA, and that is not happening at the moment, AA can surrender 24 A300s on 30 days notice. It would be cool to see 10 A300Fs for AA if they should wish to get back into the freighter game. Just my humble opinion only. Regards.
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PSU.DTW.SCE From United States, joined Jan 2002, 4751 posts, RR: 29 Reply 9, posted (5 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 707 times:
FlagshipAZ,
As it stands the A300's will be around until leases expire between 2008 and 2012. I don't know if that 30-day turn-back still stands, I wouldn't be the least bit surprise if that was only valid up until a set date, not likely 15 years later.
Only the 762's, and a few of the 762ER's were retired, the ones that were immediately parked post 9/11. The others will remain for a while as they fill AA's lucrative 3-class trans-con routes.
As for AA parting with the A300's early, not likely, at least not until they get more widebody aircraft which will not occur until they take more 777's in the later part of the decade. As the fleet stands now AA doesn't have an additional 30 widebodies to deploy on A300 routes. If they were to go, so would a substancial number of routes.
American762 From United States, joined Apr 2004, 162 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (5 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 676 times:
CX123, you are obviously completely naive and ignorant. AA has a reason for not replacing their AA A300's. They obviously dont feel the need to spend billions on a new 7673-7674 or 777 fleet for their Caribbean routes. The Airbus A300 is still Americans largest people mover. It holds a few more than their 772 does on its international routes. The A300 also allows for a huge amount of cargo to be placed on board along with passengers. The A300 transports very large amounts of goods and mail to the Caribbean. And the A300's may not be the new millenium all glass cockpit jets but they are tried and true. They may not be the slender A340 but they get the job done, and I think that anybody who says that calls a multi million dollar aircraft "old and disgusting" and gives AA the reputation of a "dis-respectable" carrier needs to be educated.
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