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News -Iberia A320 Loses Engine Cover In Mid-flight  
User currently offlineTxiki1uk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 5547 times:

Source, El mundo Newspaper

http://www.elmundo.es/elmundo/2004/05/11/madrid/1084265405.html

Text in Spanish.

Rough translation, Flight IB 432, an A320 - not sure which one at the moment - lost the engine cowl in flight about 15 minutes after takeoff around 7 this morning. It returned safely to Madrid where the passengers were put aboard another aircraft and sent on their way, albeit a couple of hours late.

Anyone in Madrid got any other news?

Andy


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User currently offline7E72004 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3587 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 5512 times:

or the other question is...anyone find an engine cover in their backyard?


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User currently offlineINNflight From Austria, joined Apr 2004, 3765 posts, RR: 60
Reply 2, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 5502 times:

Hmm, how can this happen  Insane Sounds weird.

regards, Florian



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User currently offlineHirisk From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 223 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 5464 times:

i'm sure somebody will find it and sell it on ebay Smile/happy/getting dizzy.i'm sure losing the cowl in flight unnerved the pax just a little bit!


happy contrails
User currently offlineMerC From Sweden, joined Dec 2003, 590 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 5390 times:

Hope no one got it in the head..

I wouldn't mind finding an engine cowl in my backyard though.  Wink/being sarcastic



It's Scandinavian
User currently offlineGreasespot From Canada, joined Apr 2004, 3078 posts, RR: 20
Reply 5, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 5376 times:

The A320 CFM engine cowls are notorious for coming off in flight. They look fastened but are not. I know AC has lost a couple over the years.

I know AC had at one time a special sign off for cowls closed properly when they were opened. I do not know if they still have this.

GS



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User currently offlineTxiki1uk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 5229 times:

According to my spanish sources, the a/c in question is EC-HTD, c/n 1550 delivered september 01.

User currently offlineBullpitt From Spain, joined Mar 2004, 871 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 5084 times:

It was the MAD-BIO flight, and I also hope no one got hit on the head.


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User currently offlineFly727 From Mexico, joined Jul 2003, 1789 posts, RR: 19
Reply 8, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 4804 times:

Hmm, how can this happen Sounds weird.
regards, Florian


The A320 CFM engine cowls are notorious for coming off in flight. They look fastened but are not. I know AC has lost a couple over the years.

Correct; and so has Mexicana I think back in 1992 or so.

RM  Smile



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User currently offlineChilledflyer From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 115 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 4712 times:

Here's a couple of pics I found of the mishap!


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User currently offlineOlli From Mexico, joined Mar 2001, 339 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 4590 times:



Fly727:

Mexicana has never had any A320 with CFM engines as far as im concerned, only the 319's but of course the were not around back in 1992.


Regards,





User currently offlineTxiki1uk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 4496 times:

I think the most unusual thing about this incident is that it was not just one engine, but the covers of both engines!

Either a mechanic has been very naughty and not correctly secured the covers after checking, or this is a very freaky incident.

A


User currently offlineSAS-A321 From Denmark, joined Mar 2002, 401 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 4424 times:

I also find it strange that the covers of both engines fell or flew off!


It's Scandinavian
User currently offlineN79969 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 4371 times:

The fact that both cowlings came undone indicates that a single mechanic probably worked on both engines and made the same mistake on both sides.

Luckily it looks like the "liberated" cowling did not strike or do any damage to the wing or fuselage.


User currently offlineHenpol747 From Mexico, joined Jun 2001, 588 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 4222 times:

N79969, actually the right cowling hit the tail on the right side, but with no serious damage to it


Vive la France! ¡Viva México!
User currently offlineHenpol747 From Mexico, joined Jun 2001, 588 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 4211 times:

If you look closely to the bottom photo in reply 9, the damage is clearly visible just above the B of Iberia in the tail.

Cheers,

Henpol747



Vive la France! ¡Viva México!
User currently offlineFly727 From Mexico, joined Jul 2003, 1789 posts, RR: 19
Reply 16, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 4088 times:

Fly727:
Mexicana has never had any A320 with CFM engines as far as im concerned, only the 319's but of course the were not around back in 1992.


Correct. But I was not implying that it was a CFM-powered aircraft. Actually it was one with VAE2500s; sorry I didn't make my self clear enough.

RM  Smile



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User currently offline744 From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 448 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 3968 times:

I had flown on this particular aircraft. It was very noisy, especially the engines. The take-off was really scary, the whole plne shook, and when it landed, I thought the wings blew out. But while in air I didn't feel anything.


User currently offlineStefandotde From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 3885 times:

@744, in Europe we have very restrictive rules concerning aircraft noise , esp. for take off and landing. I am sure the manifacturer is doing a good job in this. And the best aircraft of the world is not that noisy? lllolll

User currently offlineQqflyboy From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 2266 posts, RR: 13
Reply 19, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 3796 times:

Fly727... funny you mention the VAE2500s. At Reno Air we had an MD-90 (which also uses the V2500s) enroute from ORD to RNO lose an access panel cover on the number one engine. Nobody knew it until ATC at RNO informed the cockpit they were missing a piece of their engine. Who knows where it flew off! It's probably sitting in some farm in the midwest!

If you look closely at the picture below, just aft of the MD-90 decal on the engine their are two small access panel covers, one in front of the other. It was one of these that was lost during the flight. Obviously there was no ill affect since the pilots weren't aware of it until ATC in RNO made notice.


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