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CGN Is Planning Low-Cost Flights To The USA  
User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 3957 times:

The airport Cologne/Bonn is planning low-cost flights to the United States. Michael Garvens (general manager of the airport) told the German magazine "Der Spiegel" that he is currently talking with well-known US airlines.

The destination of the new route is probably a city in the Middle West of the United States, already existing low-cost airlines from Germany like Germanwings and Hapag-Lloyd Express could operate feeder flights from German as well as European cities.

The oneway fares will start at 100 EUR, tickets should be bookable via the internet only. Amenities like lounges or frequent flyer programs will be not available to save costs.

The full article (unfortunately only in German) can be found here:

http://de.news.yahoo.com/040424/336/3zzce.html

Patrick

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User currently offlineLonghaulheavy From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 402 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 3923 times:

MKE please!

(Hey, one can dream, right? Big grin )


User currently offlineUshermittwoch From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 2963 posts, RR: 16
Reply 2, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 3919 times:

Can you say ATA?!

I am surprised that this topic hasn't been posted earlier.
I had read about this two weeks ago or so.
Just didn't have time myself.
 Big grin



Where have all the tri-jets gone...
User currently offlineDelta777Jet From Germany, joined Jun 2000, 1198 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 3919 times:

I think they work together with ATA (American Trans Air)!


Fly easyJet
User currently offlineUshermittwoch From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 2963 posts, RR: 16
Reply 4, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 3897 times:

For personal reasons I'd love it to be MKE, too but I have a feeling it will be IND.


Where have all the tri-jets gone...
User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 3874 times:

Oh, I just saw that the article is from April 24th Embarrassment. Anyway, I heard it in the radio news today (on WDR 2) but I didn't find anything on the WDR homepage, so I searched via the Yahoo news search, then I got this article.

Patrick

Edit because of a typo.

[Edited 2004-05-11 18:54:43]

User currently offlineGSPSPOT From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 2968 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 3848 times:

COOL! I wonder what ATA's inflight service on a Transatlantic flight might be like....


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User currently offlineUshermittwoch From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 2963 posts, RR: 16
Reply 7, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 3820 times:

I am just hoping for the L-1011!
That would cut a hole in my budget but it'd be worth it.

I wish it were still as easy as it used to be to fly with those birds.



Where have all the tri-jets gone...
User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 3789 times:

I am just hoping for the L-1011!

That would be great, if the flight will be operated by a L1011, I will book it because I never flew on this aircraft type and that would be the easiest way to get it.

Patrick


User currently offline7E72004 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3587 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 3777 times:

If they do use any L1011s for the overseas flights it will be for a short time considering the L1011 is pretty much out of the picture for many airlines.


The next generation of aircraft is just around the corner!
User currently offlineAirsicknessbag From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 4723 posts, RR: 34
Reply 10, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 3687 times:

This is such a joke (to quote a favourite phrase of of one of the above guys  Big grin  Laugh out loud ) :

100 EUR o/w + tax means 250 EUR rtn including tax - a fare which can be routinely found on almost all normal carriers. Just someone out for cheap publicity...

Daniel Smile


User currently offlineLN-MOW From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 1907 posts, RR: 14
Reply 11, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 3677 times:

Interesting.
However don't expect to see a 1011. The company has already stated that services will be operated with 752's, should this become a reality.

The inflight service? It will be good. Like it is on our Hawaii-services.




- I am LN-MOW, and I approve this message.
User currently offlineUshermittwoch From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 2963 posts, RR: 16
Reply 12, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 3647 times:

Well, I haven't routinely seen any 250? return flights for the last 4-5 years on Transatlantic flights...


Where have all the tri-jets gone...
User currently offlineTimberwolf24 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 574 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 3615 times:

Look for 757 service from Chicago Midway with a tech stop in Bangor ME or Gander then on to points in Europe.  Big grin


Living in LA, ORD/MDW will always be home!
User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 3605 times:

100 EUR o/w + tax means 250 EUR rtn including tax - a fare which can be routinely found on almost all normal carriers.

You are correct, last year I paid 277 EUR for DUS-CDG-JFK-CDG-DUS on AF incl. lots of miles.

Patrick


User currently offlineTs-ior From Tunisia, joined Oct 2001, 3416 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 3605 times:


CGN-BOS is most probable with 752s !!!


User currently offlineINNflight From Austria, joined Apr 2004, 3765 posts, RR: 60
Reply 16, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 3549 times:

Well, so it is not low cost, isn't it?  Insane Too bad, 100 euros would have been worth a trip just to fly a good old L1011!

regards, Florian



Jet Visuals
User currently offlineUshermittwoch From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 2963 posts, RR: 16
Reply 17, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 3512 times:

Well if they have those fares year round, I'd for sure call it low cost.
Since it's half of what you pay on a regular restricted ticket in the low season, when you don't get a super special offer and a quarter than you'd pay between July and October this year.



Where have all the tri-jets gone...
User currently offlineTriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4692 posts, RR: 43
Reply 18, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 3455 times:

Please keep it calm guys, this is not a revolutionary new concept, it is just what long-range charter flights with high-density configured aircraft are today. Only the seats won't be sold by brokers and tour operators, but directly to the customers.

And I am also pretty sure that we will see several renowned European airlines match their fare with similar offers, but also including frequent flyer miles and "full frills" onboard service.

Don't take me wrong, more competition means more choices and better fares for us customers. It is just not a very definitive plan yet and certainly not such a totally kick-ass new concept if you think about it.  Smile



Homer: Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!
User currently onlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19098 posts, RR: 53
Reply 19, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 3445 times:

While not directly related to Germany, there's little or no point operating a low-cost airline between the UK and USA, as airfares are already low during the off-season - even 180.00 pounds return sometimes. However, there is probably a need for low-cost travel from the UK to the USA during the summer, when fares soar considerably - it's not unusual to see fares for 400-500 or more to NYC from LHR and even more to the west. So it would be good to have cheap fares during the summer. You could acquire a couple of old 747-200s or DC-10s, but two major problems would exist: a) what would you do with the aircraft during the off-season when they're not needed; and b) what would you do with the staff you have hired?


"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineGSPSPOT From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 2968 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 3408 times:

LN-MOW, will Transatlantic 752's have the new Business Class they're installing on domestic birds?


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