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User currently offlineErj170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6784 posts, RR: 17
Posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 1742 times:

With US deciding to make LGA a focus city, will they upgrade flights from RJ to mainline? If so, how will this affect delays. I know that LGA is seriously prone to delays. And arent there restrictions at LGA? What's the deal?


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User currently offlineJfkYYZ From Canada, joined May 2004, 109 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1687 times:

LGA seriously prone to delays?! Could you please expand on that? We're starting flights to LGA in June -- so this bothers me.

Cheers!
j.



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User currently offlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6784 posts, RR: 17
Reply 2, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1677 times:

Well, let me restate that... in the past when I have flown through LGA (which was probably at least 2 years ago), to fly USAirways through LGA was to expect to be delayed for some amount of time. I was just wondering if it has changed? Some Yanks should be able to let me know that..

Only reason I ask was because 2 days last week I was at RDU and flights to LGA were holding due to delays at LGA.



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User currently offlineJBLUA320 From United States of America, joined May 2002, 3179 posts, RR: 19
Reply 3, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1657 times:
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I dont think making LGA will increase delays at the airport. The delays have been dramatically reduced now that LGA is a wee bit more "slot controlled" and, really, they are no more prone to delays then anyone/where else. So even if US steps up some RJ flights to mainline, the separation between takeoffs and landings is roughly the same.

Flights in and out of NYC (JFK, LGA and EWR) get ground holds all the time...and that is because all 3 airports share the same airspace and work rigorous patterns to separate planes. If JFK is using a certain runway, then the other two airports have to configure themselves as to keep their planes away. It's kind of like a jigsaw puzzle..

Its commonplace to get groundholds at NYC for those reasons, and a lot of it is traffic related. It comes with the territory-- what do you expect for such a busy (among hte most busy) airports in the country?

LGA, on the whole, will barely feel the difference.

JBLU


User currently offlineMark777300 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 388 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1597 times:

LGA is notorious for delays out of the three major airports in NYC, but it hasn't really been related to traffic congestion since after 9/11. The weather is what has a tendency to create havoc for operations at LGA. During bad weather such as snow, rain, and fog often create delays of up to 2 hours or more and even cancellations. On the other hand, during this past winter JFK managed to not only remain open, but with minimal delays. I often wondered why that is the case every winter?

User currently offlineCancidas From Poland, joined Jul 2003, 4112 posts, RR: 11
Reply 5, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1595 times:

Only reason I ask was because 2 days last week I was at RDU and flights to LGA were holding due to delays at LGA.

i was chatting with pilots about to go out to RDU and they told me the opposite actually.


On the other hand, during this past winter JFK managed to not only remain open, but with minimal delays.

not exactly true. bad wx will criple all three airports around here.



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User currently offlineSA7700 From South Africa, joined Dec 2003, 3431 posts, RR: 26
Reply 6, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1566 times:
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"not exactly true. bad wx will criple all three airports around here"

Had my first visit to the States in early December 2003. I was supposed to fly DCA-LGA, but all NYC-bound flights were cancelled due to heavy snow in the area.

How common is this and how often does it really happen? How quickly are they (JFK, EWR & LGA) usually to clear the runways and get the airports up and running again?



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User currently offlineVSLover From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1897 posts, RR: 22
Reply 7, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1557 times:

Well, the winter storms that were experienced were VERY uncommon for the period.

Winter storms as were experienced this past winter season are not SO amazing to warrant the shutdown of the major airports in NYC.

Yes, out of LGA/JFK/EWR, LGA is the worst off, and is more prone to traffic delays because of its limited space...but wx does not necessarily cripple ALL three airports. after all, jfk was never shut down as were lga and ewr.

i mean think about it, would your airport stay operational with 18inches of snow in a 24 hour period?

(den done answer)


User currently offlineBigOrange From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 2375 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1500 times:

VSLover

JFK was closed down completely on a couple of occasions this past winter, albeit for short periods of time.

I was listening to JFK tower online one night and they were having a hard time keeping the runways clear, due to how fast the snow was falling.

The ground controllers were doing a great job handling all the flights when the airport re-opened, they would have had an easier job if some of the pilots quit with their "I want priority" attitude, and others had a better command of the English language to understand what they were being told to do.


User currently offlineMark777300 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 388 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1449 times:

Airports are usually shut down for a short time to allow the airport to clean the runways, I'm not sure if this is true, but I once heard someone tell me that under severe cases, they keep only a certain amount of runways open to provide quicker clearing instead of going from one runway to the next and to the next one after that> Well, unless the TV channels had it wrong here, at no point during any of this past winter storms did JFk close, experiencing only delays of 45minutes or less. LGA didn't fair that well when it came to delays. Granted flights may be canceled here and there, but the airports stayed open.

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