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QF To Order A340's Very Soon  
User currently offlineAussie747 From Australia, joined Aug 2003, 1163 posts, RR: 0
Posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 19089 times:

Do not shoot the messenger!! (as I usually source all my info)

However have heard from my Uncle (senior engineering role in QF), QF will be placing an order for an unspecified number of A340's model unknown at this time next week. Expect further information down the track I guess.
Can any body else further substantiate on this at this point in time?? (or did I get a "bum steer")





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User currently offlineNa From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10736 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 18701 times:

Now that would be great! I hope for A340-500s.

User currently offlineSolnabo From Sweden, joined Jan 2008, 852 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 18491 times:

If its true.........JIPPIIIIEEEE!!! Way to go, QF  Big thumbs up

Michael



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User currently offline9V-SVC From Singapore, joined Oct 2001, 1797 posts, RR: 10
Reply 3, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 18469 times:

Well, guess they must be happy with the 330s Big grin


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User currently offlineAnxebla From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 18344 times:

Really??? This is a very good news!!!  Smile QF & A340

User currently offlineEZYAirbus From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 2460 posts, RR: 52
Reply 5, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 18226 times:

I have heard a rumour floating about that QF will choose the A345 to do Perth-Heathrow on a non-stopper, dont know how true this is, be awesome if it is true though!

Glenn



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User currently offlineAnxebla From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 18117 times:

Yes,it can be true, The A345's CAN do London-Perth non-stop.

User currently offlineIBERIA747 From Spain, joined Aug 2003, 1831 posts, RR: 58
Reply 7, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 18060 times:

It would be very good news if it´s true.


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User currently offlineStartknob From Germany, joined May 2004, 156 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 17994 times:

If this is true, it´s really great news  Wink/being sarcastic

LHR-Perth is the sole theme of one of the early promotion videos of Airbus for the 345 ("tonight we fly"). The 345 IS flying today and seemingly SQ and Emirates operate them without major flaws AKL-SYD-DXB, SIN-LAX and more routes to come.

While the projected 772LR still would not be able to do London-Sydney nonstop when it arrives in years to come it makes a lot of sense for QF to get the plane able to do Perth today - the Airbus.

Additionally they can counter this way the Airbus-entry of both LAN Chiles and Emirates in Australia and their enlargement plans in Down Under.

Other routes probably possible with a QF 345 Perhaps could be SYD-SCL nonstop or SYD-AKL-EZE or SYD-"USA_not_LAX_or_SFO".

And they get another piece of commonality when the A34?s join the 332 MRTTs QF will maintain for the RAAF.

Bingo. Great news, indeed - if true. We'll see.

Best Regards,
Kojak



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User currently offlineHkg_clk From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 999 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 17954 times:

How long is LHR-Perth? It certainly sounds like a very long route. But are there enough premium passengers to fill an A345?

But nevertheless, it would be great if QF did get some of them, and maybe some 346s!

hkg_clk



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User currently offlineRoberta From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 17832 times:

If this is true i cannot wait to see those A345's flying in and out of LHR. And to think that they will have come all the way from Perth is astonishing, what an age we live in.

Nethertheless, i will save my smug grin until a firm source has arisen.


User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 17815 times:

Let's hope QF follow SQ's lead and give the poor pax some room ! PER-LHR has got to be at least 20-21 hours nonstop - squodged into a normal QF economy seat, they won't need a jetbridge to offload the DVT corpses, they'll need a pitchfork.

User currently offlineTsentsan From Singapore, joined Jan 2002, 2016 posts, RR: 15
Reply 12, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 17775 times:

PER-LHR wld probably be less than 18 hours...

Its 5 hrs PER/SIN, 13 hrs SIN/LHR... so thats 18hrs, and i'm sure flying direct wld have its benefits Big grin




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User currently offlineLyzzard From Singapore, joined Nov 2003, 404 posts, RR: 13
Reply 13, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 17616 times:

My longest A345 flight was 19hrs 31mins. I cannot imagine sitting in a seat for much longer than that and that was super tiresome, I must have finished 5 full length movies and there was still time to spare. No ordinary passenger is going to stay put for 20 hours. It's like Tsan said, more like 18 hours PER - LHR.

User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12476 posts, RR: 37
Reply 14, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 17541 times:

Personally, I can see 345s as a likely option for QF. There are quite a few routes which are too thin for the 744, but where other carriers, particularly EK, can sweep up. A smaller airliner, such as the 345, could (a) allow new routes to be added, (b) frequencies on certain existing 744 routes to be increased, making them more business friendly, (c) add new ultra long haul routes, such as SYD-DFW and PER-LHR.

Some people have, in the past, pooh-poohed PER-LHR but, as all Blackadder fans know, you never ignore a pooh-pooh, so let's look at it this way: PER is already served by several airlines, such as SIN (3 daily), CX (3 wkly), EK (dly), TG and MH, among others. Now, I would think a pretty high proportion of this traffic is bound for the UK and Ireland, so by bypassing the en route stops, QF could gain an advantage and since it avoids the heavily travelled route over India, Pakistan and Russia, it wouldn't be subjected to that congestion, which can often keep airliners at relatively low FLs, with resultant high fuel costs.

This has been rumoured before, but I think a very strong case can be made for it. However, I think it's also fair to say that QF could, in the interim, make good use of its 332s by flying them from BKK to Europe. Most of Europe, particularly MAN, DUB and GLA - potentially lucrative new services - are within range from BKK and it perhaps something QF could do as an interim measure. After all, with all due respect to QF, they don't seem terribly sure of what they should be doing with their 332s anyway.


User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 17439 times:

What sad news; but like Roberta, I'll believe it the day the contraptions are on the apron.


Anywho, if it does turn out to be true; can at least give props to Airbus for a major coup in less than 5 years.


User currently offlineSolnabo From Sweden, joined Jan 2008, 852 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 17258 times:

"Contraption"?
Is that what you call an aircraft,even a US made one, C-boy?

Michael//SE  Big grin



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User currently offlineUA744KSFO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 17174 times:

Does it have the range to do SYD-ORD? I think this might actually be a better idea for QF than SYD-DFW.

User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 84
Reply 18, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 17105 times:

Does it have the range to do SYD-ORD? I think this might actually be a better idea for QF than SYD-DFW.

It has the range for both routes, yes.

I can't speak intelligently as to which route makes sense.

N


User currently offlineStartknob From Germany, joined May 2004, 156 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 17081 times:

the following link leads on the GCM to the following airport pairs:

SYD-ORD
ORD-AKL
AKL-SYD
SYD-PER
PER-LHR
as discussed in this threat

and
SIN-EWR as of SQ from June 28th on with A345
DXB-SFO as of Emirates plans with A 345


http://gc.kls2.com/cgi-bin/gc?PATH=SYD-ORD%0D%0AORD-AKL%0D%0AAKL-SYD%0D%0ASYD-PER%0D%0ADXB-SFO%0D%0ASIN-EWR%0D%0APER-LHR%0D%0A&RANGE=&PATH-COLOR=red&PATH-UNITS=mi&SPEED-GROUND=&SPEED-UNITS=kts&RANGE-STYLE=best&RANGE-COLOR=navy&MAP-STYLE=&ETOPS=120

Therefore, SYD-ORD should be possible, too  Wink/being sarcastic



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User currently offlineAsianguy767 From Singapore, joined Oct 2003, 263 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 17068 times:

Maybe its an order for A346s to replace its B743s?

User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 84
Reply 21, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 17017 times:

Maybe its an order for A346s to replace its B743s?

I dunno. It'd have to be a fairly good deal, I would guess, especially with the misgivings of a few airlines in that region regarding that plane.

The reason I say this is because they just refurbed almost all if not all of their 743s. Granted, it'd be a few years before they could get an airframe from Airbus, but that was still a large investment.

If it is true, as was mentioned before, its a big vote for how they actually do like the 330, despite its unsuitability for the routes they selected. It would be a very mature decision on QF's part.

I like to ask this, and its off topic, but does anyone know if QF is uprating the CF6-80Es on their 330s before redeploying them to regional routes?

N


User currently offlineBobs89irocz From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 632 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 16983 times:

Asianguy767- This is what i was thinking.....either the A346 or the A345 but either way it will be to replace the 743. Good to see if QF does get the A340's. Should look great in that paint.

User currently offlineMischadee From Sweden, joined Apr 2004, 271 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 16949 times:

Good for them  Big thumbs up

Nice to see those beautiful birds spread their wings down below. Now if only Air New Zealand would follow in their steps.

Mischa.



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User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 16903 times:

Does it have the range to do SYD-ORD?

In theory it does... in most practicality/probability, it does not.


25 RT514 : Very interesting news! As for the range required for SYD-ORD, there is nothing to suggest that the A345 wouldn't be able to handle this task handily.
26 FlyingKangaroo : I agree, it would be GREAT for QF to operates PER-LHR, however, in the original message, it states they will order a unknown model. This means QF coul
27 Ktliem@yvr : Re. A345 range Flight international mentioned in a recent issue that Airbus will offer a HGW version of the A345 with a range exceeding that of the 77
28 Fido73 : Way to go Kangaroo-tails! A345 is a great airplane and I would love to see it gaining new operators. Maybe they will go for a joint A345/346 order to
29 Econojetter : SQ's A345s are configured with only 181 seats. Had the actual seating capacity been around 270, there would be quite a number of fuel stops each year
30 Roberta : Does it have the range to do SYD-ORD? In theory it does... in most practicality/probability, it does not. If SQ are going to begin flying SIN-EWR at 8
31 ConcordeBoy : there should be no reason why it cannot fly the 8022nm's SYD-ORD A desire for more than 181 pax perhaps.....?
32 Roberta : Ahh come on the A345 could ace it SYD-ORD with at least 300 pax.
33 RT514 : Again, there is no objective evidence at this point to indicate that SYD-ORD is beyond the capabilities of the A345.
34 Greg : Possibility of any -300's in the order? Just curious.
35 ConcordeBoy : Again, never said it couldnt... ...what I said was the practicality of 260odd negated nm probably doesn't justify 120+ more pax, plus cargo.... rememb
36 Uaord : I love how this thread is dominated by non-americans. It is nice to see such an international response to the topic. I am not partial to Boeing as mos
37 Dynkrisolo : Don't confuse still-air range with actual range. The 744 has a still-air range of 7,260nm, but once a while, airlines have to make refueling stops fro
38 RT514 : ...what I said was the practicality of 260odd negated nm probably doesn't justify 120+ more pax, plus cargo.... remember QF would actually need some i
39 Aussie747 : "I like to ask this, and its off topic, but does anyone know if QF is uprating the CF6-80Es on their 330s before redeploying them to regional routes?
40 Motorhussy : With a fleet of A340-500's, QF could turn PER into the Australian gateway to Europe. Not just daily flights to LHR, but less frequent ones to FRA, CDG
41 GREATANSETT : This is certainly good news. Why didn't Qantas ever take advantage of the 777 on Asian routes? Never the less the A340's will look great in the QF sch
42 JetJock : It would be nice to see Qantas a340's!
43 Aussie_ : Qantas have a board meeting in Toulouse very soon. This is where an announcement will be made
44 ZK-NBT : Quite sure if this is indeed true that QF will order A345's! Mainly to operate to more US ports plus the likes of PER-LHR, and maybe non-stop SYD-Sout
45 Post contains images Q330 : I would love to see A345s in QF colours! This has come up before but maybe this time it's really not a false alarm. -Q
46 YUL332LX : It is not a surprise since Airbus and QF have been negotiating for months now. It was only a matter of time before it happened. Btw, they were discuss
47 Aussie747 : Well it seems the A330's were to prepare not for the A380 but for the A345!! So it seems though the board meeting will be for the announcement. I thin
48 Andrewtang : It's going to be a great thing if QFA gets the A340-541 to fly PER-LHR. Not too sure if the A340-642 would be ordered but apparently the B747-438s are
49 Post contains images DfwRevolution : Long live my Toyota...it will outlive me. Amen.. '92 Camry... still goin strong , I am the Northwest Airlines of car ownership Qantas have a board mee
50 Tsentsan : Just some food for thought..... why would Qantas hold a board meeting at Toulouse and its' headquartered at Sydney???
51 Trekster : good on ya qantas. .
52 Post contains images Frugalqxnwa : Sheesh, QF must really be suffering from acute Airbussicitis if they are carrying their "defection" this far. So much for a 777 order! (Although, I mu
53 Post contains images ConcordeBoy : So much for a 777 order! Amusing some of the posts here... ...particularly since there's barely a shred of tangible evidence to support anything in t
54 Bullpitt : Hope they do, LHR-PER direct will make going to my parents much easier.
55 Gigneil : On one hand, consolidating all their european flights from PER gives QF some advantages, especially keeping these flights in-country, and would do won
56 ANstar : When do QF have to excericse their A330 options that they placed in 2000? Could the board meeting Toulouse be an update on A380 progress and merely an
57 Aaron747 : They'll be pining for the 777LR and/or 773ER in no time - we all know how happy CX has been with the A346. These A345s are just a stopgap - passengers
58 Rjpieces : and the economics of a 777LR over the A345 just can't be beat. You are confusing that with the 773ER over A346. Since no 772LR has been buit yet, it i
59 Donder10 : Does PER have much business traffic though?Even LHR-SYD is not too hot in the front cabibs.
60 Post contains images Fido73 : Aaron747, I´m just wondering if you are talking about surveys done by Boeing? I can not see how anyone would prefer the 777 seating arrangement to th
61 Udo : Survey after survey? Could you please name some sources? I'd really be interested in reading these surveys. Fact is that most passengers just don't re
62 Horus : major airlines have shown they can live without B777s...Virgin... Even though you are very right when you said that, Virgin are actually still ponderi
63 Post contains images Fido73 : Ditto, Horus. It´s all about the money in the end isn´t it? And hey, let´s not get too sentimental about this . We love all airplanes, well, maybe
64 Post contains images VH-BZF : The Qantas board were to travel back to Australia on the first A330-300 International in a couple of weeks, after their meeting in Toulouse! My source
65 Motorhussy : Fido73 What have you got against the Saab 340? And on other news... Perhaps QF are converting their A330 options by exercising them on A340's? MH
66 PC12Driver : Udo wrote: It was once more again Airbus's innovation which provoked Boeing to react. We have often seen that - A300, A310, A320, A340 - Airbus was al
67 Motorhussy : PCDriver Ahem... speaking of revisionist history... The A320 was more of a strategic move to secure the void in the marketplace left by the retiring 7
68 Rjpieces : The A345 might be a stopgap at SIA - but probably not for others. Many major airlines have shown they can live without B777s. Lufthansa, Air Canada, I
69 YUL332LX : And the Cathay story is old. CX is in talk with ILFC for a few773ER to replace the A346. Doesn't smell good for CX's A346... Most people don't share y
70 ANstar : I thought the 773er's were for growth not to replace the A346's at CX?
71 Dynkrisolo : The 767-200 was a direct reaction to the A300, but designed smaller to give a point of difference and market niche. What Boeing did better and earlie
72 Post contains images Solnabo : Q330: That picture of A345 in QF c/s looks better that Mona Lisa to me Cheers Michael//SE
73 Rjpieces : No offence, but most people might disagree with yours as well. You left out NW, AC and SA All three of those are definitly up there; however would you
74 Fido73 : Motorhussy, Well, the SF340 is noisy, cramped, unreliable and requires a lot of maintenance. It also goes out of balance when full or empty, either re
75 Aaron747 : LOL Fido - can't disagree with you on the SF340 - *always* a roller coaster IN ANY SEAT.
76 Gigneil : My sources tell me that this may NOT happen as planned due to the fact that Qantas is in dispute with Rockwell Collins who make the video system for t
77 Post contains images YUL332LX : All three of those are definitly up there; however would you put them in the same league as BA,AF,LH,SQ,CX? Close, but they don't measure up in my my
78 Post contains images ConcordeBoy : I can not see how anyone would prefer the 777 seating arrangement to that of A340, or would feel comfortable crossing an ocean in a two-engine plane
79 Greg : Can everybody stop refering the new ER/LR models of the 777 as NG. It's not an NG aircraft. Same for the 500/600 series of the 340. Just seems kind of
80 Roberta : Even though you are very right when you said that, Virgin are actually still pondering a deal for the 773ER. Even though its obvious they will go for
81 Motorhussy : Dyrinksolo Thank you! You might consider putting me on your respected users list. Fido73 It's humorous what you said about the Saab 340. I thought it
82 Buckfifty : The leases on the A346s expire relatively soon, and CX has shown no desire whatsoever to renew them. I don't know what forum you got this off from, bu
83 EAL757 : DfwRevolution: I've got you beat with a 91 Honda, 214,000 miles as of now! Anyway, re: the 747-300 refurbishment--let me get off on a tangent: how man
84 RT514 : Amusing some of the posts here... ...particularly since there's barely a shred of tangible evidence to support anything in this thread! The leases on
85 Mark777300 : Things always get out of hand on every thread. But first off: The whole subject of seating arrangements regarding the A340 with that of the 777, In tr
86 Fuffla : This is a bit off the subject, but isn't Thai Airways quite keen to put an order in for a version of the A340? Correct me if I am wrong but I believe
87 ClassicLover : Mark777300, for that you make my respected users list. Absolutely 100% agree with you - very well said!! Trent.
88 Post contains images Manzoori : Looks pretty good in these colours eh? Cheers! Rez
89 Aussie747 : Yes Manzoori it does look good!! TG has already ordered the A340-500 and there were reports it wants the aircraft sooner rather than later. I remember
90 Post contains images ConcordeBoy : I don't know what forum you got this off from, but it isn't necessarily true. ...and yet, you spent the remainder of your even more pointless posting
91 Roberta : That QF 777 looks like an A332 on steroids, although i dont think the fake photo has done it any justice.
92 Post contains images ConcordeBoy : Hmm, might have some'in to do with being compressed for this forum...?
93 RT514 : Then pray tell, are you dense-- or just plain stupid? ...it's not that difficult of a concept No, neither dense nor stupid. There was just an incredib
94 ConcordeBoy : Your response to this position simply does not embody anything of value to debunk this ...only problem [and point you seem to be missing] is-- it wasn
95 Buckfifty : ...and yet, you spent the remainder of your even more pointless posting reiterating what I'd just said. Hmmmm Eh? How have I reiterated what you've ju
96 Aussie_ : Latest on this is that they will order A340-600s not -500s
97 Roberta : Ohh i guess no more dream of an LHR-PER service. At least for now.
98 Gigneil : I'm interested in seeing a list of potential routes for the 346. Do they intend to serve Europe via Singapore with these aircraft, and then regional r
99 RT514 : I'm very interested in what routes the 346 would serve as well, and how the Australian Airlines scheme may or may not work into this whole equation. I
100 Beno : I doubt the 743s will go anytime soon considering QF have spent big $$$ upgrading them. The A346s may be used on thiner European routes to replace 744
101 Aussie747 : "The A346s may be used on thiner European routes to replace 744s such as Paris" They will not do that unless QF get extra capacity on the route. QF ha
102 Dalecary : I think there is a very good chance this is all a lot of bollocks and we will see QF order zero A345/6. That's my guess and I s'pose we'll find out so
103 Sydscott : " think there is a very good chance this is all a lot of bollocks and we will see QF order zero A345/6" Hallelujah brother, I was just about to point
104 Buckfifty : I don't know, but I do think Qantas do have a need for long range aircraft other than the 744. They do require additional longhaul capacity, and unles
105 ConcordeBoy : I think there is a very good chance this is all a lot of bollocks and we will see QF order zero A345/6. Couldnt agree with you more
106 The Coachman : Aussie747, if they get the A340-600 to fly to CDG (all pie in the sky at the moment obviously) if they are limited to 3 x weekly B747-400 services on
107 TBCITDG : I wouldn't be surprised to see QF back in South America. After all they are paying LAN a whole heap of $$ to operate these routes, so I would suspect
108 Unicorn : They are not actually paying LAN. LAN is a One World alliance customer, and code shares with Qantas from Sydney to Santiago, and from there on to othe
109 V Jet : Unicorn if the flt was that profitable for LAN they would use the majority of the seats on the flts but they dont. QF has most of them.
110 Unicorn : The seats may be booked by Qantas but the money goes to LAN, thats the beauty of code share. Qantas feeds people to Sydney on QF domestic, then LAN ca
111 Qantas077 : QF chief test pilot flew the A340 last week in France, not sure which variant but i am pretty certain it won't be the A346. just curious from a techni
112 Gigneil : However a 340 or 777 is a beast of a different colour, and QF's analysis suggests that with a 345 they could do Rio, BA, Santiago, and Lima. Same with
113 Roberta : The 773ER could likely fly the route with minor restrictions. Neither the 345 nor 772LR would suffer any difficulties serving major South America dest
114 Oz777 : DaleCary and Sydscott. Never a truer word spoken in jest!!. It is amazing that a flight by a chief pilot (one of the perks of the job) in a new airfra
115 VHTAE : Why don't Qantas hand over all six 747-300's to subsidiary Australian Airlines?
116 Dalecary : OZ777 all I can say is that you know your stuff mate. Spot-on analysis. Dale
117 ZK-NBT : I was going to say the same that has already been said above, but I think this A340 thing is totally untrue at this stage, however I will believe it I
118 QF744 : VH-TAE, Would be a great idea, but won't happen for a few years, if at all. Australian seem keen to stick with the 763s for the moment and most likely
119 Ken777 : PER-LHR, even SYD-PER-LHR would obviously look great and fill planes. The pax most happy with the PER-LHR segment are the ones buying RTW tickets. PER
120 RayChuang : I want to know why does QF want to buy the A340-500/600 series. While the planes have the range for what QF wants the airline is probably far more int
121 TBCITDG : Sorry Unicorn, but management here at QF tell us that the flight is operated by LAN on behalf of QF, hence the high percentage of seats that are sold
122 Unicorn : Hi guys, Some of the media are starting to carry this story, the latest being Avmark, which is reporting that the number will be five A340-500's. Init
123 Post contains links and images Startknob : Thank you, Unicorn, for the Info. 5 A345? IF this will become for real, then with Regards to Reply 8: CHECK OUT THIS VIDEO - Seemingly it will get rea
124 QF744 : Unicorn, Where is Avmark reporting that QF is in fact interested in 345s? QF744
125 QF744 : This may not be speculation after all - The Australian newspaper reported almost 2 months ago that QF were looking at the A340-500. So, expect the pos
126 Bartond : So is LHR-PER the main focus point for QF right now in purchasing these new longer range planes, and my SYD-DFW flight is to take the back seat? Gasp.
127 Post contains images VH-BZF : Gigneil wrote: The actuality is that they're achieving certification for the CF6-80E1A3 on the 333, which has delayed the delivery of that aircraft to
128 Dalecary : BZF, weren't you the one to announce a while ago that QF would be ordering 345s??? I suppose that won't happen now???
129 Aussie747 : "The actuality is that they're achieving certification for the CF6-80E1A3 on the 333, which has delayed the delivery of that aircraft to Nov 2004." "
130 Dalecary : guess QF then is taking 3 of those 8 SQ 744's that are on sale while KA has already taken 5 to convert to freighters. No, the other 3 are going to CX
131 QF744 : BZF, Where does this mail come from? I very much doubt QF will buy any more 744s at any stage soon. Obviously they are not from SQ, so, again, where i
132 ZK-NBT : QF744 QF were looking at upto 10 additional 744's a while back! Problem with SQ is that means they would have 3 different engines on the 744 fleet!
133 Thadocta : One thing which hasn't been addressed - as far as I can see, in a thread with over 100 replies - is that airlines need high-yield SLC (self-loading ca
134 Oz777 : Surprising that there is a deathly silence emanating from Toulouse, and the Boardroom at QCA appears to have lost the phone number of the media But we
135 BOEING747-700 : It would be a good Idea, the pilots who fly the A330 are Type Rated to fly the A340 so training costs should be kept to a min.
136 Post contains images QF744 : Oz777, I was going to say has there been any news from Toulouse yet to indicate there may be a further order - be it more 330s, 380s, 320s or 345s? I'
137 United Airline : If Boeing builds a new B 747, I am sure QF will order some. The problem with BA is..... They might not want to offload that many B 747-400s.
138 QF744 : I am still doubtful that QF would want another 10 744s! That seems like an extraordinary amount to boost the fleet.. 3 or 4 - i can see that happening
139 Gigneil : The problem with BA is..... They might not want to offload that many B 747-400s. They definitely do. They've been trying to offload a fair number of 7
140 Na : Gigneil, you´re wrong. CX tried to get a number of RR-powered 744s for their SF-program, but BA (the only possible source) didn´t want to sell them
141 Gigneil : Perhaps you're right, I may be misinformed on the topic. N
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