Aussie747 From Australia, joined Aug 2003, 1169 posts, RR: 0 Posted (11 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 19741 times:
Do not shoot the messenger!! (as I usually source all my info)
However have heard from my Uncle (senior engineering role in QF), QF will be placing an order for an unspecified number of A340's model unknown at this time next week. Expect further information down the track I guess.
Can any body else further substantiate on this at this point in time?? (or did I get a "bum steer")
Startknob From Germany, joined May 2004, 156 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (11 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 18646 times:
If this is true, it´s really great news
LHR-Perth is the sole theme of one of the early promotion videos of Airbus for the 345 ("tonight we fly"). The 345 IS flying today and seemingly SQ and Emirates operate them without major flaws AKL-SYD-DXB, SIN-LAX and more routes to come.
While the projected 772LR still would not be able to do London-Sydney nonstop when it arrives in years to come it makes a lot of sense for QF to get the plane able to do Perth today - the Airbus.
Additionally they can counter this way the Airbus-entry of both LAN Chiles and Emirates in Australia and their enlargement plans in Down Under.
Other routes probably possible with a QF 345 Perhaps could be SYD-SCL nonstop or SYD-AKL-EZE or SYD-"USA_not_LAX_or_SFO".
And they get another piece of commonality when the A34?s join the 332 MRTTs QF will maintain for the RAAF.
Bingo. Great news, indeed - if true. We'll see.
When playing cat and mice it's imperative to know, who's the cat.
JGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (11 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 18467 times:
Let's hope QF follow SQ's lead and give the poor pax some room ! PER-LHR has got to be at least 20-21 hours nonstop - squodged into a normal QF economy seat, they won't need a jetbridge to offload the DVT corpses, they'll need a pitchfork.
Lyzzard From Singapore, joined Nov 2003, 404 posts, RR: 13
Reply 13, posted (11 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 18268 times:
My longest A345 flight was 19hrs 31mins. I cannot imagine sitting in a seat for much longer than that and that was super tiresome, I must have finished 5 full length movies and there was still time to spare. No ordinary passenger is going to stay put for 20 hours. It's like Tsan said, more like 18 hours PER - LHR.
Kaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12956 posts, RR: 34
Reply 14, posted (11 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 18193 times:
Personally, I can see 345s as a likely option for QF. There are quite a few routes which are too thin for the 744, but where other carriers, particularly EK, can sweep up. A smaller airliner, such as the 345, could (a) allow new routes to be added, (b) frequencies on certain existing 744 routes to be increased, making them more business friendly, (c) add new ultra long haul routes, such as SYD-DFW and PER-LHR.
Some people have, in the past, pooh-poohed PER-LHR but, as all Blackadder fans know, you never ignore a pooh-pooh, so let's look at it this way: PER is already served by several airlines, such as SIN (3 daily), CX (3 wkly), EK (dly), TG and MH, among others. Now, I would think a pretty high proportion of this traffic is bound for the UK and Ireland, so by bypassing the en route stops, QF could gain an advantage and since it avoids the heavily travelled route over India, Pakistan and Russia, it wouldn't be subjected to that congestion, which can often keep airliners at relatively low FLs, with resultant high fuel costs.
This has been rumoured before, but I think a very strong case can be made for it. However, I think it's also fair to say that QF could, in the interim, make good use of its 332s by flying them from BKK to Europe. Most of Europe, particularly MAN, DUB and GLA - potentially lucrative new services - are within range from BKK and it perhaps something QF could do as an interim measure. After all, with all due respect to QF, they don't seem terribly sure of what they should be doing with their 332s anyway.
Gigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 80
Reply 21, posted (11 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 17669 times:
Maybe its an order for A346s to replace its B743s?
I dunno. It'd have to be a fairly good deal, I would guess, especially with the misgivings of a few airlines in that region regarding that plane.
The reason I say this is because they just refurbed almost all if not all of their 743s. Granted, it'd be a few years before they could get an airframe from Airbus, but that was still a large investment.
If it is true, as was mentioned before, its a big vote for how they actually do like the 330, despite its unsuitability for the routes they selected. It would be a very mature decision on QF's part.
I like to ask this, and its off topic, but does anyone know if QF is uprating the CF6-80Es on their 330s before redeploying them to regional routes?