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Will VS Start A 2nd Daily Flight Between HKG&LHR?  
User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 8792 posts, RR: 17
Posted (9 years 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2134 times:

As you may know, Virgin Atlantic will start service between Hong Kong and Sydney in September 2004. Its already on the Hong Kong Airport Authority website.

Will they simply put an extra aircraft in Hong Kong? How are they going to rotate it back to London?

One more thing, any chance of a 2nd daily flight which they have been interested in for a while I think?

I honestly believe that there is a market for a 2nd flight. BA will be doing triple daily and CX is already doing that. Also QF might start daily flight in 2005. So.......

Comments?

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User currently offlineAirchabum From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 769 posts, RR: 12
Reply 1, posted (9 years 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2117 times:

The plan is for a 2nd daily VS LHR-HKG-LHR to start in conjunction with the launch of flights to SYD but the exact date is still 'to be confirmed', ie awaiting various regulatory approvals. I expect it to slip from Sept 04 to later in the year or maybe 2005.

Cheers


Biggidy biggidy bong
User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 8792 posts, RR: 17
Reply 2, posted (9 years 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2072 times:

What aircraft will they be using? Branson once said B 747-400 but later I heard that its ganna be an A 340-600.

User currently offlineBacxboys From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2003, 42 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (9 years 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 2045 times:

The whole VS extra service to Hong Kong and onto SYD will not at the moment be starting in September the way things are going.

Here at CX we are also waiting for our licence for LHR-JFK and the matter seems to be going on and on.

We have as far as we know been awarded a slot for the above which is set for 0830 in the morning.

To keep the Slot Live CX may have to start a 4th Daily Hong Kong service in the meantime.

We are also hoping in London to see the End of our A340-300 operations on the Daily CX253/CX254 as customer feedback is poor on Airbus equipment.

The new LON/JFK when started will be operated by the A340-600 (Cant Wait).

So once VS and CX sort out the final problems IE:BMI making a formal complaint.

I know all staff at VS AND CX are waiting in anticipation for the day when we can start these exciting new services.

User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 8792 posts, RR: 17
Reply 4, posted (9 years 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 2029 times:

I wonder why CX will not put a B 747-400 between LHR and JFK. BA is doing it 7 times daily with B 747-400s (Correctly me if I am wrong)

So what do they plan to use on CX 253/254??

And what will VS deploy on the HKG-SYD route? Also Dragonair in the future?

User currently offlineBacxboys From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2003, 42 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (9 years 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 2014 times:

CX plan to use B747-400 on CX253/254 so London-Hong Kong will be all B747 flights.

The New LON-JFK also has option of B747 depending on loads.



User currently offlineFlyingKangaroo From Australia, joined Apr 2004, 532 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (9 years 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 1991 times:

I heard VS will operate an A340-600 for the SYD route, and this will be one of the routes that will have "priority" for the A380. Can soemone tell me, does VS already serve HKG? I read that the SYD flight will be something like 3 times a week continuation of the LHR-HKG route. Is this true?

flyingKangaroo


QANTAS-- The Spirit of Australia
User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 8792 posts, RR: 17
Reply 7, posted (9 years 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 1959 times:

Heard that it will go daily........ HKG-SYD I mean.

Yes VS flies one daily A 340-600 flight from LHR to HKG. They used the B 747-400 for a while, didn't work too well and they switched back to Airbus.

User currently offlineChilledflyer From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 114 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (9 years 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 1941 times:

United Airline:
Do you know why the 744 didnt work too well for VS as the load was often full of these flights? I remebered, correct me if I'm wrong, that VS operated 744 pre-911 for a while, so I only presumed that they switched to a smaller capacity metal (i.e. 343) to cope with the economic downturn? Or is there actually some operational problems with 744?? (even though CX/BA both operate the type to/from HKG/LHR)

--Chilledflyer--


Justice delayed, Justice denied
User currently offlineAirchabum From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 769 posts, RR: 12
Reply 9, posted (9 years 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1905 times:

The plans AFAIK are for 2x daily LHR-HKG with A340-600 with one of the services carrying on to SYD (ie daily HKG-SYD). Eventually the plan is to use the A380 on LHR-HKG-SYD.

United Airline

It wasn't so much that the 744 wasn't successful on the HKG route, it was more that post-9/11 there wasn't much need for capacity on US routes so 744s were switched to other routes, eg HKG and JNB until pax figures on US routes picked up again. The 346 carries as many Upper Class passengers and a good deal more cargo than a 744 so is a good a/c for the route.

Bacxboys

As a VS employee I echo your comments...the SYD flights can't start soon enough!  Big thumbs up


Biggidy biggidy bong
User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 8792 posts, RR: 17
Reply 10, posted (9 years 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1880 times:

I don't think VS ever operated B 747-400s except after 9.11.



User currently offlineCx123 From Australia, joined May 2004, 695 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (9 years 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 1796 times:

BAcxboys,

I am actually one of the person who compalined about the A340 service from HKG-LHR.
I mean going from HKG-LHR not a problem as it is always a 744 service in the evening service (which I prefer and most people prefer) But on the way back, If I want to take the latest flight it is always a 340!
The F Class cabin on 340 is just not the same as a 744. I prefer the 744 as it give you more room to move around.

I don't think the deal is fair where VS can goto SYD and CX only get give 1 slot to do the JFK-LHR route!

I just want to know how will this work as the CX888 or what ever the new number will be for the HKG-JFK will be on a 346. Will this SAME aircraft goto LHR? If so then what aircraft will there be to do the JFK-HKG?

Also how about the LHR-HKG service?

I think also CX should consider the J Class in the upper deck of 744 (especially the exit row and make it recline 180 and totally FLAT. And only assign it to MPO members like myself!! haaha. It was comfortable but I just saw this wasted room in front of me not ultilised!

User currently offlineJrMafia90 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 216 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (9 years 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 1794 times:

I heard they might. Hopefully they will.

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