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Day In The Life Of A WN 737. WOW!  
User currently offlineSWA TPA From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 1559 posts, RR: 35
Posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 12568 times:


Ok, so I was working the gate the other day and bored out of my mind. I decided to follow one our 737-300's around the country, via our intranet/ OTIS, to see where he went.

Here is what I found:

He started his day in DAL @ 6:30am-

DAL-MSY
MSY-BHM
BHM-BWI
BWI-SDF
SDF-STL
STL-TPA
TPA-FLL
FLL-TPA
TPA-BWI

Ending his day in BWI @ 11:50pm.
As for the loads, he could potentially have carried 1233 pax if he was full on every flight. His actual total bookings for that day ended up @ 880 pax.
Wow, you just dont realize how many butts have been in those seats before you throughout the day  Smile

SWA TPA


I believe I can fly.....
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User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 12473 times:

Two years ago I was doing a utility study of various airlines for a client and came up with the following month (January 2002) in the life of N770SA, a 737-700 for Southwest.


(DEPT ORG-FLT#-DES ARVL)


1-Jan 0655 BWI-0499-SLC 0937 1015 SLC-0499-OAK 1105 1200 OAK-1957-SLC 1429 1455 SLC-1957-BWI 2045 2202 BWI-2358-IND 2342
2-Jan 0755 IND-0651-STL 0752 0825 STL-0651-MCI 0918 0945 MCI-0651-PHX 1121 1205 PHX-0198-ELP 1315 1345 ELP-0181-DAL 1608 1636 DAL-1679-LBB 1737 1755 LBB-0118-DAL 1847 1913 DAL-2104-AMA 2019 2035 AMA-0417-ABQ 2038 2100 ABQ-0417-PHX 2211
3-Jan 0750 PHX-0342-SAT 1039 1125 SAT-0342-MCO 1502 1542 MCO-0649-STL 1655 1742 STL-0649-OMA 1855 1935 OMA-1470-STL 2045 2107 STL-1470-MCO 2354
4-Jan 0702 MCO-1877-HOU 0836 0910 HOU-1877-LAS 1014 1044 LAS-1877-RNO 1151 1220 RNO-1388-LAS 1325 1400 LAS-1388-HOU 1840 1915 HOU-1388-MCO-2152
5-Jan 0900 MCO-2377-PVD 1134 1212 PVD-0171-MDW 1330 1419 MDW-0171-MCI 1543 1610 MCI-0171-LAX 1723 1813 LAX-1884-MCI 2318
6-Jan 1152 MCI-0158-PHX 1330 1400 PHX-1533-PDX 1557 1637 PDX-1613-LAS 1823 1900 LAS-1613-SAN 1957 2030 SAN-1146-OAK 2150 2220 OAK-0497-PHX 0055+1
7-Jan 0730 PHX-0123-HOU 1050 1128 HOU-0123-JAN 1239 1303 JAN-0123-MDW 1455 1533 MDW-1544-LAS 1708 1745 LAS-1544-OAK 1903 1932 OAK-2215-BUR 2030 2045 BUR-1088-SJC 2139 2210 SJC-1091-LAX 2307
8-Jan 0755 LAX-0450-MCI 1300 1330 MCI-0450-MDW 1445 1523 MDW-0450-PVD 1828 1850 PVD-2120-MCO 2119
9-Jan 0650 MCO-1124-FLL 0731 0810 FLL-1253-MCO 0908 0930 MCO-1253-IND 1148 1215 IND-1253-MDW 1200 1235 MDW-1760-RDU 1504 1545 RDU-2958-BNA 1612 1640 BNA-2958-HOU 1827 1915 HOU-1885-STL 2048 2135 STL-1885-IND 2321
10-Jan 0750 IND-0361-BWI 0910 0945 BWI-0361-BUF 1058 1120 BUF-0703-PHX 1410 1446 PHX-0703-OAK 1528 1605 OAK-1758-LAS 1725 1755 LAS-1758-MDW 2316
11-Jan 0730 MDW-1546-STL 0821 0905 STL-1546-HOU 1116 1155 HOU-1640-BNA 1330 1355 BNA-1640-ISP 1649 1725 ISP-1953-BWI 1824 1900 BWI-1953-MSY 2040 2120 MSY-2432-DAL 2226
12-Jan
13-Jan 0930 DAL-0011-HOU 1025 1050 HOU-0011-HRL 1141 1210 HRL-0030-HOU 1300 1330 HOU-0030-DAL 1424 1455 DAL-0030-ABQ 1540 1610 ABQ-0385-PHX 1723 1833 PHX-0385-LAX 1844 1931 LAX-0385-OAK 2042 2107 OAK-0385-SEA 2252
14-Jan 0620 SEA-2200-BOI 0828 0900 BOI-1936-LAS 0929 1000 LAS-1936-PHX 1205 1240 PHX-1936-STL 1648 1700 STL-1936-MDW 1800 1830 MDW-1936-BWI 2112 2215 BWI-1868-BDL 2310
15-Jan 0645 BDL-0481-MDW 0823 0853 MDW-0481-PHX 1155 1224 PHX-0481-SAN 1224 1252 SAN-1524-AUS 1710 1750 AUS-1524-RDU 2118
16-Jan 0830 RDU-0315-BWI 0927 1000 BWI-0315-ABQ 1250 1316 ABQ-0315-SAN 1416 1441 SAN-1208-BNA 1947 2020 BNA-1208-MHT 2212
17-Jan 0645 MHT-0749-BWI 0806 0835 BWI-0749-SAT 1135 1206 SAT-0809-BWI 1556 1640 BWI-0809-BUF 1740 1820 BUF-0454-BWI 1928 2000 BWI-0454-HOU 2239 2259 HOU-0183-MSY 2355
18-Jan 0700 MSY-0376-MCO 0930 0955 MCO-1079-BWI 1150 1230 BWI-0476-RDU 1331 1355 RDU-0476-MCO 1532 1600 MCO-1409-BNA 1654 1720 BNA-1409-DTW 1953 2025 DTW-0706-MDW 2028 2055 MDW-0706-TPA 0018+1
19-Jan 0700 TPA-1659-MSY 0735 0805 MSY-1735-MCO 1027 1105 MCO-1735-FLL 1153 1235 FLL-2520-MCO 1321 1355 MCO-2520-BNA 1435 1520 BNA-2520-MCI 1655 1720 MCI-1398-BNA 1836 1915 BNA-1398-TPA 2146
20-Jan 1110 TPA-0827-BNA 1152 1230 BNA-0827-LAX 1513 1542 LAX-0827-OAK 1646 1728 OAK-0827-PDX 1856 1928 PDX-1665-RNO 2029 2054 RNO-1665-LAS 2155 2225 LAS-1896-SLC 0038+1
21-Jan 0705 SLC-1742-OAK 0755 0830 OAK-2143-LAX 0932 1020 LAX-1672-SJC 1122 1200 SJC-0382-MCI 1710 1755 MCI-0382-RDU 2055
22-Jan 0800 RDU-1570-AUS 1023 1100 AUS-1570-SAN 1208 1235 SAN-1365-OAK 1355 1423 OAK-1365-BOI 1645 1705 BOI-0987-OAK 1730 1805 OAK-0987-SAN 1923 1950 SAN-1670-OAK 2115
23-Jan 0715 OAK-2537-ONT 0821 0855 ONT-2537-LAS 0950 1015 LAS-2537-MCI 1448 1530 MCI-2537-STL 1626 1735 STL-0523-TUL 1855 1915 TUL-0523-PHX 2040 2130 PHX-0523-OAK 2222
24-Jan 0715 OAK-2537-ONT 0818 0855 ONT-2537-LAS 0950 1015 LAS-2537-MCI 1453 1530 MCI-2537-STL 1630 1655 STL-1257-PHX 1900 2000 PHX-1257-LAX 1957 2955 LAX-1517-SLC 2333
25-Jan 0630 SLC-2036-LAX 0717 0750 LAX-0366-LAS 0850 0920 LAS-0366-CMH 1601 1635 CMH-1591-LAS 1745 1840 LAS-1591-LAX 1945 2030 LAX-2186-PHX-2243 2305 PHX-1512-LAS 2307
26-Jan 1130 LAS-2441-ELP 1359 1435 ELP-2441-AUS 1650 1720 AUS-0902-ELP 1738 1820 ELP-0902-ABQ 1904 1935 ABQ-0902-LAS 2001
27-Jan 0830 LAS-2408-BNA 1341 1425 BNA-2408-DTW 1642 1720 DTW-1407-BNA 1742 1825 BNA-1407-OAK 2123
28-Jan 0715 OAK-1501-SAN 0837 0902 SAN-1501-PHX 1059 1135 PHX-1501-MDW 1518 1625 MDW-2230-HOU 1859 1930 HOU-1870-MCO 2225
29-Jan 0700 MCO-0245-MCI 0855 0930 MCI-0245-SEA 1121 1200 SEA-1732-PHX 1542 1625 PHX-1732-BWI 2202
30-Jan 0655 BWI-0499-SLC 1000 1020 SLC-0499-OAK 1105 1145 OAK-1957-SLC 1418 1455 SLC-1957-BWI 2023
31-Jan 0745 BWI-2097-MCO 0958 1040 MCO-0483-BUF 1403 1500 BUF-1011-LAS 1712 1750 LAS-1128-BUF 0045+1


User currently offlinePIA777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1738 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 12287 times:

Wow, That is amazing. How many differnt pilots flew the SWA 737-300 that day?

PIA777



GO CUBS!!
User currently offline767-332ER From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 2030 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 12254 times:


And there again, figure the regular life-span of these machines is about 25-30 yrs...goes to show you what wonderful machines airplanes really are...of course, like everything, proper maintenance has to be performed.
Regards



Twinjets...if one fails, work the other one twice as hard!!!
User currently offlineSWA TPA From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 1559 posts, RR: 35
Reply 4, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 12177 times:


I was wondering about the crew changes myself. I dont really have access to that. Maybe OPNLguy would know that one. This was N357 (I am pretty certain) just this past Thursday.

SWA TPA



I believe I can fly.....
User currently offlineOkie From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2850 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 12087 times:

That is a lot of cycles on the airframe per day. While I know you can't keep that pace up forever due to scheduling and Mx it generates some interesting numbers to play with in anycase.

9 cycles per day X 7 days = 63 cycles per week
63 cycles per week X 52 weeks = 3,276 cycles per year
3,276 cycles per year X 15 years = 49,140 cycles

I think the airframes are either near the end of their life or major Mx after about 50,000 cycles

Okie


User currently offlineATAIndy From United States of America, joined May 2004, 584 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 12083 times:

I think it's simply amazing how many cycles those birds take each day, and how many miles they fly in a day. It just goes to show you how the system can bottleneck with just one delay.


Boiler up!
User currently offlineInnocuousFox From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2805 posts, RR: 15
Reply 7, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 11980 times:

Using data from the 1st Quarter of 2002 and thd 737-300/700 aircraft. First number is block hours per day, 2nd is flight hours per day:

F9 - 10.9 - 9.5
WN - 10.8 - 9.2
US - 8.8 - 6.7
CO - 8.0 - 6.6
HP - 7.5 - 6.1
DL - 7.4 - 6.0
UA - 6.9 - 5.6

Also, notice the difference in the ratio between block hours and flight hours. WNs is 87% flight hours. US is 76%. Talk about some serious utilization for Southwest!



Dave Mark - Intrinsic Algorithm - Reducing the world to mathematical equations!
User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19097 posts, RR: 53
Reply 8, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 11839 times:

"And there again, figure the regular life-span of these machines is about 25-30 yrs...goes to show you what wonderful machines airplanes really are...of course, like everything, proper maintenance has to be performed."

Thankfully maintenance at WN is very important indeed, evidenced by the sheer determination of all its maintenance staff and also by the fact that, on average, there will be 1 fatal crash per 2 million flights in the USA, but WN has flown over 9 million flights and has not had a fatal crash.



"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineSpeedbirdHeavy From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 427 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 11746 times:

This truly is one of the most interesting threads I've seen in this forum in quite awhile. I have often wondered about the daily travels of any aircraft. When I get off a plane, I always make it a point to look behind me to see where that aircraft is going next as I exit the gate area.

I'm sure if you look harder, you'll find even more amazing mileages covered. That particular 737 happened to stay in just a couple of sectors of the US. I'm sure there are planes that start flying around the East coast and eventually wind up on the West coast. All in a 16 hour span! Amazing!

I will never know how dispatchers keep track of all the aircraft either.



China Airlines...Come fry with us!
User currently offlineVaporlock From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 11675 times:

SpeedbirdHeavy, I agree with you on that this is one of the most interesting posts in quite some time!!!  Big thumbs up

SWA TPA, way to go!!! You've got my attention ~~ early on a Saturday morning!!!! Hope all is well with you!!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

I only wish I were on that plane every time it took off and landed!!! I love the feeling!!!!!!!!!  Big thumbs up

Phyllis


User currently offlineINNflight From Austria, joined Apr 2004, 3765 posts, RR: 60
Reply 11, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 11639 times:

Truly amazing! Thanks for telling us!

So, this was just a single WN B737... Imagine all the work to coordinate the whole fleet  Nuts

Those guys have my respect!

regards, Florian



Jet Visuals
User currently offlineInnocuousFox From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2805 posts, RR: 15
Reply 12, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 11477 times:

"I will never know how dispatchers keep track of all the aircraft either."

Computers.  Big grin

"So, this was just a single WN B737... Imagine all the work to coordinate the whole fleet"

Actually, it's not that tough to assign tail numbers to flights. As part of the artificial intelligence routines for our game, I had to do exactly that. The AI can take the fleet's current locations and aircraft types and match it with the schedule very easily. It will do it for hundreds of aircraft on thousands of daily flights in only a few moments. (Creating a balanced schedule was actually the hard part!)

Parts of the same routine can be used to recalculate assignments when there is a delay. It will find the most efficient way of reassigning aircraft to get the maximum utilization with the mimimum delay. If I can do it for a game, I'm quite sure the airlines have systems that do the same thing! It's not like the dispatchers are sitting there with index cards and a cork board!



Dave Mark - Intrinsic Algorithm - Reducing the world to mathematical equations!
User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 11444 times:

>>>I will never know how dispatchers keep track of all the aircraft either.

Computers, my boy, computers...  Big grin

There's an article in the May/June issue of Airliners on dispatchers written by a couple of cohorts at Delta, and in the pix you can see a little bit of their computers.

In years past, in the "Dark Ages" before computers, most airline dispatch offices used a proverbial "big board" with horizontally-oriented thin strips of posterboard cut to the length of the trip length. At common points, "swaps" could be made to change an aircraft's rount for whatever reason. At one airline I worked for, we actually had three of these big boards, the previous day's operation on the left, the current day in the middle, and the next day on the right. At the end of the day, all the boards (on rollers) would get moved to the left, except for the far left one which would get moved all the way to the right.



User currently offlineKohflot From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 11369 times:

....and then there are the days you feel like you're tapping out your releases to the stations with morse code when technology fails....STOP

User currently offlineSWA TPA From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 1559 posts, RR: 35
Reply 15, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 11240 times:


Yesterday I followed our flight 616 that starts out in TPA and goes to LAS. From there it ends up criss crossing the country to BWI and I believe back. It also makes a number of short hops around the west coast. I wish I could find the info I wrote down on it. It really impressed me.
Those planes really WORK during the day.

SWA TPA



I believe I can fly.....
User currently offlineWidgetBoi From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 1432 posts, RR: 20
Reply 16, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 11241 times:

This may be a stupid question, but how much time does Southwest provide to turn an aircraft?

jeremy


User currently offlineSWA TPA From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 1559 posts, RR: 35
Reply 17, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 11230 times:


WidgetBoi-

Not stupid at all! Our ground times are usually about 20-25 minutes.

SWA TPA



I believe I can fly.....
User currently offlineWidgetBoi From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 1432 posts, RR: 20
Reply 18, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 11208 times:

That's just what I figured.

Thanks for the help SWA! Big grin

jeremy



User currently offlineSpeedbirdHeavy From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 427 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 11007 times:

Actually, it's not that tough to assign tail numbers to flights. As part of the artificial intelligence routines for our game, I had to do exactly that. The AI can take the fleet's current locations and aircraft types and match it with the schedule very easily. It will do it for hundreds of aircraft on thousands of daily flights in only a few moments

Ah yes, but then there are the "unforeseen circumstances" that can throw things out of whack. Like broken equipment and weather delays and such. When an aircraft needs to go out of service for some reason, that must really cause some headaches.



China Airlines...Come fry with us!
User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 10944 times:

>>>Ah yes, but then there are the "unforeseen circumstances" that can throw things out of whack.

None the least of which is when all the last flights of the night are inbound to a MX base, and then said MX base goes below minimums.. Huge pain in the arse...


User currently offlineAtrude777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5686 posts, RR: 52
Reply 21, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 10855 times:

Ahhhh yes I remember doinmg that.


I was tracking a WN flght after I got off. it started the day in LAS, and flew to PHX, where it picked me up to take me home to STL...so then I got off and was curious to see where else it went..

LAS-PHX-STL-MDW-JAX-MCO-FLL-MSY-HOU-DAL That was in one day.
Then the next day it flew...
DAL-OKC-MCI-MDW-CLE-STL-HOU-DAL this was shorter IM guessing, and then after that I lost track....

Alex



Good things come to those who wait, better things come to those who go AFTER it!
User currently offlineStar_world From Ireland, joined Jun 2001, 1234 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 10711 times:

Here's a map showing that one-day routing:



pretty impressive...!  Smile


User currently offlineSpyglass From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 109 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 10556 times:

Tell ya what....this is one of the best, most informative threads I've seen here in a long time...everyone contributed a little and some asked the good questions for it to be really interesting. None of the infantile Airbus vs Boeing playground rock-throwing or I-hate-Xairline-orYairline...kudos to all contributors and hope your examples rub off on the bellyachers who seem to infest this site
chow


User currently offlineOzzie From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 338 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 10523 times:

I have experienced this myself. I have been onboard a WN 737 when the FAs will say something like "For those of you continuing on to *** and then *** and then ***.

At least they get good use out of there airplanes, and not one crash yet.


25 Atrude777 : It truly is amazing the workload that the Southwest 737's go through every day and its amazing how they do it w/o a single crash..::knock on wood: I h
26 PROSA : Using data from the 1st Quarter of 2002 and thd 737-300/700 aircraft. First number is block hours per day, 2nd is flight hours per day: F9 - 10.9 - 9.
27 InnocuousFox : "It truly is amazing the workload that the Southwest 737's go through every day and its amazing how they do it w/o a single crash" Uh... it's not THAT
28 Theflcowboy : Not to piss on anybodys parade, but what about the WN that overran the end of the runway in Burbank? Or are we talking fatal crashes?
29 Okie : WN has not been without a few accidents or incidents BUR being one of them but no fatalities. Says a lot about Mx, pilot proficiency (4-5 landings per
30 Atrude777 : For Southwest safety records, its second behind QANTAS, and America West is 3rd I believe. InnocuousFox-Name one other Major airline in the US that ha
31 Post contains links OPNLguy : >>>It has had 3 disrupted landings.....ONT ( left gear failed i believe) BUR over shot runway and SAN I believe or SJC where it over ran the runway du
32 Atrude777 : It was some southern california airport, LAX, ONT, SNA, or SAN or SJC. it coudl have been SMF But I thought it was SAN. Basically there was heavy floo
33 Post contains images OPNLguy : >>>It was some southern california airport, LAX, ONT, SNA, or SAN or SJC. it coudl have been SMF I must have been off that day....
34 Planespotting : it's gotta be a lot more interesting being a Southwest pilot then working at a different carrier, the hub and spoke system can get pretty mundane.....
35 Tbear815 : I do agree that this topic is truly interesting. Now, what about the routings of International A/C that have long airborne times? Example: A UA 744 OR
36 InnocuousFox : "InnocuousFox-Name one other Major airline in the US that has NEVER had a crash... [snip] so obviously WN is the only major to NEVER have a crash. so
37 Post contains images InnocuousFox : "the hub and spoke system can get pretty mundane" I have to agree with that, although UA is starting to do a bit more wandering with their aircraft. Y
38 Bruce : Now take those numbers and imagine applying them to a -2H4 that was delivered in 1982.......22 years of this schedule!!!!! I can see why when they are
39 Post contains images Atrude777 : Here is a schedule of 732 service over Texas....quite alot, now pultiply it by over 30 states!!!! Alex THERES SOMEBODY ELSE UP THERE THAT LOVES YOU
40 Bruce : This might be a technical question in the civil forum.....but which is harder on an aircraft: continuous long haul flights or numerous short hops like
41 Cactus739 : On a WN flight last month from PHX-MCI, I had a few minutes to talk with one of the flight attendants. They had started their day in PHX then to LAS,
42 Steveswa737 : I am a BWI based FA for WN. My next trip looks like this: EQP 700 BWI-MHT 0645-0800 700 MHT-MCI 0825-1150 700 MCI-LAX 1215-1555 Layover LAX 16 hours 5
43 Flyboy80 : I have a question for you WN F/As...is it procedure that when the aircraft arrives at the gate, that you slightly open or "crack" specific doors on th
44 737doctor : How great is this? I fly to Austin to see my daughter this morning and then come home to a LUVfest for our MX department. I just want to say that my f
45 Cloudy : This might be a technical question in the civil forum.....but which is harder on an aircraft: continuous long haul flights or numerous short hops like
46 Av8trxx : "I have a question for you WN F/As...is it procedure that when the aircraft arrives at the gate, that you slightly open or "crack" specific doors on t
47 Swardu : Good job SWA TPA. What amazes me though, is how the Schedule Planning Dept can put all this together with the maintanence lines, 737-200 lines, the SN
48 Post contains images SWA TPA : Hi Swardu! Nice to have you on A.net! Also great to have another WN CSA around here This thread has really got some interesting info in it! Thanks ev
49 7Seas : Hate to burst anyone's bubble but someone further back in the thread said WN turn times are usually 20-25 minutes. Many in the company and media still
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