Mozart From Luxembourg, joined Aug 2003, 2015 posts, RR: 14 Posted (9 years 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2994 times:
It was somehow hard to squeeze my question into the subject box, but here's my question: which airport, that is not the "residence" or hub of a Star Alliance carrier has the most coverage by Star Alliance, in terms of number of airlines flying there or in terms of number of flights or in termns of destinations served?
In my mind it is LHR, unless you count LHR as the base for BD. Otherwise, it has virtually all Star carriers going there: AC, NZ, NH, OZ, OS, BD, LO, LH, SK, SQ, TG, SA)">UA, RG. Only Spanair and US are missing. ALso future Star member SA goes there. Most of these airlines have a "Heavy coverage", i.e. many flights and many destinations served.
After that it would be Paris CDG, with AC, NH, OS, BD, LO, LH, SK, SQ, TG, SA)">UA, US and RG, as well as future member SA. Missing: NZ, OZ. But since the airlines serving CDG do not have as many flights into Paris as they have into London LHR, CDG is less of a Star airport than LHR.
Another candidate would be HKG: AC, NZ, NH, LH, SQ, TG, SA)">UA
What strikes me is that despite the high volume of traffic among Star carriers at these airports there seems to be very little coordination or cooperation among Star carriers, for instance in terms of using the same terminal or sharing lounges (which they do at HKG, ZRH and DXB). ANd what strikes even more is that Star does not capitalise on these airports as transfer hubs.
Does anyone know whether Star will shuffle terminals and move its carriers closer together with the construction that is going in at LHR and CDG?
UNITED777300 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 131 posts, RR: 1 Reply 1, posted (9 years 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2883 times:
As an answer to your question about the 'all airlines under one roof' idea, I believe that they are trying to get T3 (or T2, can't remember), which would be much better than the current arrangement!
StarFlyer From Germany, joined Sep 2002, 987 posts, RR: 1 Reply 2, posted (9 years 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2764 times:
I heard a while back that CDG T1 would become a Star Alliance terminal? Obviously Star would need to invest a lot of money to refurbish that terminal, which dates back to the 60's and has not undergone major refurbishments since then...
ScottysAir From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 3, posted (9 years 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2700 times:
Is that still anything else about Star alliances into the new terminals or something else? I will think about construction new concourse J very soon and will used with their carrier into the new concourse J of AC, RG, LH, UA and other airlines will join with new concourse J.
FraT From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 1101 posts, RR: 1 Reply 5, posted (9 years 1 week 3 days ago) and read 2552 times:
What about JFK. Most Star carriers serve it. Not sure how many domestic flights UA and US operate from there.
Another airport with quite some domestic flights from UA and US should be MIA.
EddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7179 posts, RR: 45 Reply 6, posted (9 years 1 week 3 days ago) and read 2525 times:
Very interesting topic. Can LHR be considered BD's hub? If so, then it would not be one of the candidates. I guess CDG and JFK are runner-ups. ZRH also seems to get a lot of Star Alliance service. How about HKG?
Al From Australia, joined Jun 1999, 593 posts, RR: 2 Reply 7, posted (9 years 1 week 3 days ago) and read 2525 times:
This is the top 5 list - and yes, while it does include some fortress hubs, it gives an idea. There are a multitude of airports with 7 or 8 * carriers.
* carriers serving an airport:
AB) (FRA / FRF / EDDF), Germany">FRA & LHR - 13 (London has 14 if you count US at LGW)
CDG - 12
NRT - 11
PEK JFK & LAX - 10
KIX CPH MAD - 9
The rest have 8 or less.
(I would count BD as having a hub at LHR - it's where most of their Euro flights connect to UK flights, after all ! ).
EddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7179 posts, RR: 45 Reply 8, posted (9 years 1 week 3 days ago) and read 2463 times:
So there we go. CDG is the non-Star Alliance hub with the most Star Alliance carriers. It would be interesting to see if CDG is also the airport with the most Star Alliance weekly seats or if JFK gets that honor.
EddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7179 posts, RR: 45 Reply 13, posted (9 years 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2390 times:
Well, quoting our friend AI, it is where most of BD's European flights connect to BD's U.K. flights. I don't really know first hand but I would assume it is a major airport for BD, if not the most important.
Al From Australia, joined Jun 1999, 593 posts, RR: 2 Reply 15, posted (9 years 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 2298 times:
Can LHR really be considered a hub for BD?
They hold 14% of all LHR slots - it's a hub for sure!
Selected Star Alliance Members' Operating Statistics
Airline: bmi british midland
Total Revenue: $920 million
Annual Passengers: 6 million
Number of Employees: 6,309
Number of Destinations: 31
Revenue Passenger Miles: 1.9 billion
Major Hubs: London Heathrow, Manchester
Daily Departures/Countries Served/Fleet: 306;12; 60 aircraft
What about AMS?
AC, OS, BD, LO, LH, SK, SQ, UA, US and RG go there. That's ten.
Mea Culpa - my figures haven't been updated with LO and US. Humble apologies.
what about PVG? OZ,NH,TG,SQ,SK,LH,UA,OS,AC,also 9
OS and SK have crept in there somewhere - not sure when they started flights, but yes, PVG has got the 9 now.
HlywdCatft From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5321 posts, RR: 7 Reply 18, posted (9 years 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2155 times:
I thought I remember hearing in the past that they were going to build a terminal for Star Alliance at MIA which is really odd since MIA is a One World Hub
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