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Have AA ever operated 747s?  
User currently offlineBristolFlyer From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 2312 posts, RR: 0
Posted (10 years 7 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 10519 times:

Have AA ever operated 747s? I think I saw a picture of 747 recently in AA colours and I was wondering if it was a some sort of marketing thing or the real deal.

BF


Fortune favours the brave
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User currently offlineConcord977 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1261 posts, RR: 25
Reply 1, posted (10 years 7 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 10433 times:

This has been asked a few times.

AA operated a few 747-100s in the 70's. Two of those planes went to NASA to carry the Shuttle back and forth.

The also operated two 747SPs from 1987 through 1992. They used these primarily from DFW to Tokyo. I flew that run quite a few times, and it was excellent!



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User currently offlineWilco From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 355 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (10 years 7 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 10396 times:

yes, they have:
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User currently offlineCXA340 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 51 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (10 years 7 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 10206 times:

Don't forget, one of those 747-100's went on to star in two of the sequels to "Airport".

You can see that happy ex-AA 747-100 in "Airport 75"
Imagine a cross-eyed Karen Black, coping with the sexism of the 1970's and still managing to keep her hair looking fabulous, as she tries to land a cripled 747-100 in SLC while knowing nothing about how an airplane even flies, all the while Helen Reddy dons a habit and guitar and sings to an ailing Linda Blair (exorcist fame). And yes, Charleton Heston actualy flew the 747-100 around the rockies himself for those scenic shots.

But, this plane went on for more...."Airport 77"
As if this poor AA 747-100 had not been through enough, it is now subjected to the horror of Jimmy Stuart and Jack Lemmon as it sinks below the Bermuda Triangle with 50 passengers aboard, one of which being a drunk Olivia DeHavilland, while the oxygen runs thin, and the plot even thinner.


I really hope these movies are not what AA had in mind when they sold the plane, no beautiful aircraft should have to suffer like that, Airplanes have rights too!


User currently offlineNomadic From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 444 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (10 years 7 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 10091 times:

AA made public relations with their 747s in the early 1970s, they were the airline that introduced the 'Coach Lounge' Their loads were rather poor so AA turned the aft cabin into a living room with sofas, stand up bar and later an electric piano. I believe that this was also the time that they started calling the big planes the '747 Luxury Liner'

User currently offlineIflyatldl From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1936 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (10 years 7 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 10000 times:

Nomadic: You are so correct! I flew on AA's 747-100's three times in the 70's on LAX-JFK. Great teenage memories! Big grin


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User currently offlineCitationJet From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 2469 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (10 years 7 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 9999 times:

If you do a search of photos on the home page, using 747 and American Airlines you will find almost 100 photos of various American Airlines 747 aircraft.


Boeing Flown: 701,702,703;717;720;721,722;731,732,733,734,735,737,738,739;741,742,743,744,747SP;752,753;762,763;772,773.
User currently offlinePalwaukee From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 8 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (10 years 7 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 9981 times:

When the first Braniff went belly up, AA took over the DFW-LGW route with a 747-100, maybe the ex-Braniff "fat albert". That was in the early 80s and I had to drive past LGW on my way to work. It was the first 747 in flight I ever saw, and I nearly crashed the car.

User currently offlineTexdravid From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1365 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (10 years 7 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 9734 times:

Thanks for the memories, guys!

I, like many airliner fans, have never ridden a AA 747.

I have way, way too much experience with those god-awful AA MD-80's!!



Tort reform now. Throw lawyers in jail later.
User currently offlineRoberta From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (10 years 7 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 9583 times:

You lot are all idiots AA have a massive 744 fleet.



User currently offlineMakeMinesLax From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 566 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (10 years 7 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 9577 times:

In the late 70s at LAX, I recall one would arrive from JFK around 2:30PM and head back at 10PM. The once-a-day Delta 747 pretty much did the same thing, albeit to/from ATL (with a stop in DFW in one direction, IIRC).

User currently offlineBristolFlyer From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 2312 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (10 years 7 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 9459 times:

Roberta, perhaps your comment should have been that they HAD a massive 747 fleet as I'm pretty sure that they don't operate any now. And I'm not sure all a.net members appreciate being called idiots (correct me if I'm wrong someone).

BF



Fortune favours the brave
User currently offlineKevin752 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 729 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (10 years 7 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 9421 times:

AA had a ew 747's but they flew people for a few years and then some of them were made in to freighter planes and the rest vanished.
Kevin752



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User currently offlineRoberta From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (10 years 7 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 9418 times:

hehe, i think you missed that one Bristol

PS: MakeMinesLax, Roberta (typo) is a he.

[Edited 2004-05-18 00:56:32]

User currently offlineMakeMinesLax From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 566 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (10 years 7 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 9391 times:

Re: "The massive fleet"

Roberta's post was meant to be tongue-in-cheek (although she didn't indicate such). That's a faked photo - AA never had -400s


User currently offlineFlymia From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7273 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (10 years 7 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 9392 times:

BristolFlyer: Dont worry it is just a joke they never flew 747-400. Only 747-100 years ago. That is a fake repaint of a 747.


"It was just four of us on the flight deck, trying to do our job" (Captain Al Haynes)
User currently offlineJrlander From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 1106 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (10 years 7 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 9350 times:

I remember flying them LAX-HNL at one point in the early 80's, like 1982. I also remember seeing at least a few parked next to each other a LAX.

User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40066 posts, RR: 74
Reply 17, posted (10 years 7 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 9249 times:

CXA340:
Excellent post!  Big thumbs up

I love those old Airport movies.
I have all 4 on VHS. I also have the soundtrack to Airport and Airport 1975 on LP and the 8track tape of Airport 1975.

Airport '77 inspired my intrest in aviation all together. So I do give those movies some credit.
I wish movies today were still made like that.


Movies today center too much around the main start of the movie. In Airport 1975 and 1977, the airplane itself was the main star of the movie.



Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineMakeMinesLax From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 566 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (10 years 7 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 9203 times:

Roberta (typo) is a he

Apologies - "shoulda" read the profile. I guess you hood-winked two of us today! Maybe you can get a hat-trick if somebody asks you about the weather in Micronesia  Big grin


User currently offlineSpacepope From Vatican City, joined Dec 1999, 2980 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (10 years 7 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 9139 times:

Don't forget, the NASA shuttle carriers are both 747-123s too.


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User currently offlineWidgetBoi From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 1432 posts, RR: 19
Reply 20, posted (10 years 7 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 9115 times:

American's 747SPs came from TWA, along with the airline's Heathrow slots, right?

jeremy


User currently offlineBristolFlyer From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 2312 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (10 years 7 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 8973 times:

Ok, I'm new to the forum so I'm not yet up there with the jokes!

Flymia: 'Only 747-100 years ago. That is a fake repaint of a 747.'

Didn't realise they made the 747 100 years ago.

(Looks like I'm getting there with the gags...)

BF

PS Can someone educate me with your aircraft model numbering, when you refer to a 744 I take it this is a 747-400?



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User currently offlineMakeMinesLax From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 566 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (10 years 7 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 8969 times:

AA's two SPs did indeed come from TW, although I can't say if the slots were part of the package.

User currently offlineRoberta From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (10 years 7 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 8918 times:

PS Can someone educate me with your aircraft model numbering, when you refer to a 744 I take it this is a 747-400?

737 =737-100
732 = 737-200
733 = 737-300
734 = 737-400
735 = 737-500
736 = 737-600
73G = 737-700
738 = 737-800
739 = 737-900

741 = 747-100
742 = 747-200
743 = 747-300
744 = 747-400

752 = 757-200
753 = 757-300

762 = 767-200
763 = 767-300
764 = 767-400

772 = 777-200
773 = 777-300

A306 = A300-600

A312 = A310-200
A313 = A310-300

A332 = A330-200
A333 = A330-300

A342 = A340-200
A343 = A340-300
A345 = A340-500
A346 = A340-600

A388 = A380-800

Im sure you're beginning to notice a pattern


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40066 posts, RR: 74
Reply 24, posted (10 years 7 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 8908 times:

BristolFlyer:
Pop quiz; what would a AA 722 be?  Smile



Bring back the Concorde
25 MakeMinesLax : Re: Aircraft codes I haven't looked at an OAG (Official Airline Guide) in a while, but I thought the convention was to refer the original (unstretched
26 Post contains images Airways6max : Yes, AA did operate fifteen Boeing 747-100s from 1970 to 1984. The 747 was operated on their long-haul routes, such as JFK-LAX or ORD-LAX or JFK-SFO o
27 Post contains images Aloha717200 : I have a 1979 ad for AA's 747 flights to Hawaii, with the slogan "AAloha". [Edited 2004-05-18 02:35:11]
28 Post contains images Superfly : I think the 747-100 looked best in American Airlines colors. Anyone else agree?
29 Roberta : maybe in the OAG (Official Airline Guide) but in OAG (Official Airliners.Net Guide) people tend to write 772 741 ect
30 BristolFlyer : Superfly, really don't know!
31 Post contains images Superfly : BristolFlyer: Ok now. If a 732 is a 737-200 and a 742 is a 747-200, that means a 722 is a 727-200. Ya see?
32 ARCJET : American did not fly to Honolulu in 1979. Service was revived in December 1980 from LAX and DFW. American Flew to Hawaii from 1969 to 1974 as part of
33 COEWR2587 : I wish we could have back the good old days when airlines like PanAm, Delta and American fly 747's transcon from NY to LA.
34 Flybynight : I gotta ask since it was brought up. Am I the only one who liked Airport 77? I think it is time for Airport '04. Tom Cruise can play the gay pilot who
35 Post contains images Superfly : Flybynight: Scroll up to my post #17.
36 Flybynight : Superfly - The best airplane movie is still Airplane. I can NEVER get enough. But, I agree, the Airport movies are a big part of my love of airplanes.
37 TradewindL1011 : Two of those planes went to NASA to carry the Shuttle back and forth. Don't forget, the NASA shuttle carriers are both 747-123s too. -NASA only operat
38 Post contains images FlagshipAZ : Oh yeah, another favorite topic of mine...AA's 747s. American flew 20 various 747s over the years. 2 -121s, 16 -123s & 2 -SP31s. One -123 is now the p
39 BristolFlyer : Superfly - I guess it follows! I'm a bit of a novice when it comes to a/c so treat me gently! BF
40 Cx123 : I really think AA should re-consider some 744 in their fleet. A380 would be too big for them but just 3-5 744 will do the job nicely (on routes such a
41 Roberta : As nice as it would be to see AA using 744's the aircraft is simply not competitive enough anymore for AA to consider. The 773 or even the A346 would
42 Post contains images StevenUhl777 : I gotta ask since it was brought up. Am I the only one who liked Airport 77? Nope...I love it, too! Classic! The cornerstone of the Airport series...
43 Post contains images IMissPiedmont : Tradewind and Flagship, ya'll took the fun out of my evening. I was going to take the time to post the entire list of AA 747s, but I won't now. Unless
44 IMissPiedmont : Oh hell, I have no life. In order of msn they are: N740PA 19647/16 a -121A N743PA 19650/24 a -121A N9661 20100/46 a -123 N9662 20101/57 a -123 N9663 2
45 Bobs89irocz : AA's not really the large aircraft type? Hmmm if i remember right AA is the largest wide body operator in the world. A300.........59 767-200.....? 767
46 Planespotting : The original airport does rule. Dean Martin is fan-fucking tastic as Captain Vern Demorest. This is by far my favorite airplane movie. If i ever want
47 Flynavy : Actually, a 737-200 (whether it's /ADV or not) is (USUALLY) referred to as a 73S (and NOT 732) in scheduling and in ATC. Since, for the most part, all
48 Post contains images Roberta : Bobs 89 since when was a 772 anywhere near the size of a 744. and since when did widebody mean large. Do you know the 762 is smaller than the 753. goo
49 FlagshipAZ : IMissPiedmont, a friendly correction for you on your great list. You have the 747s appearing in Airport '75 and '77 backwards. It was N9675 that playe
50 Bobs89irocz : Roberta- Is a widebody not a large airplane? Yes, i was aware the 753 can hold more then the 762. However the 753 is a large aircraft as well. You sai
51 Roberta : so if a widebody like the 767 is large, then a 772 is would have to be extra large, a 744 super large and an A380 ultra large now we have this Small (
52 Tjwgrr : I flew on two AA 747's: LAX-HNL (continuation of JFK-LAX-HNL) AA flt #1 if I recall, and HNL-DFW back in the spring of 1982. Spring break trip to Maui
53 Post contains images Thrust : Tjwgrr, I envy you. AA 747-100s were extinct by the time I was born (1986). They had been out of the fleet for two or three years. I would've killed t
54 IMissPiedmont : FlagshipAZ, do I indeed have the 2 Airport aircraft backward? I do not doubt it but I have no dreamm that I'd be able to find my hard copy after so ma
55 Gigneil : A306 = A300-600 A312 = A310-200 A313 = A310-300 Just to clear this up. AB6= A300-600R AB3= A310-300 A300.........59 34 N
56 Post contains images VSXA380X800 : Can someone tell me the real use of a B747SP I am not a Boeing Basher or whatever you want to call it. It is just a simple question. Not directed in a
57 Superfly : Isn't it true that one of those Airport movie 747s are now with UPS? Correct me if I am wrong.
58 FlagshipAZ : To Superfly...yep, N9675 was the star of Airport '75, and is now part of UPS fleet as N675UP. It been with UPS officially since early 1985. I don't kn
59 IMissPiedmont : N9667 was leased to Braniff, National, Air Afrique, Cargolux (with sub leases to Air Inter and Iran Air), then leased and sold to United. It was broke
60 September11 : Eastern once operated 747s that was leased to AA and then gave back the 747s to EA
61 DC-10inLB : I love this old airplane movie nostagia stuff....hehehe. I saw Airport 75 not so long ago....Laughed my ass off. Crosseyed Karen Black, and Eric Estra
62 Post contains images Superfly : IMissPiedmont: N9667 was leased to Braniff, National, Air Afrique, Cargolux (with sub leases to Air Inter and Iran Air), then leased and sold to Unite
63 Post contains images KaiGywer : Small (CRJ,80pax) Medium (A320,140pax) Large (763,200Pax) Extra Large (772,300pax) Super Large (744,400pax) Ultra Large (A380,550pax) Roberta, you for
64 FlagshipAZ : Superfly, if you would share the details of your UA 747 flights, then maybe I can find something for you, altho I'll make no guarantees here. Septembe
65 Post contains images IMissPiedmont : "Willis from the TV show Different Strokes?" Well I guess I should have said Willis Lease Finance. But both N160UA and N165UA are possibles Superfly.
66 Superfly : FlagshipAZ & IMissPiedmont: I'll try to find the flight number when I get home. At the time of the flight, I didn't think to get the registration num
67 FlagshipAZ : Superfly, UA had 9 742s in mid-1999...2 -222s & 7 -238s. So you could have flown on an original & rare UA 742, or an ex-Qantas 742. Regards.
68 EMBQA : Can someone tell me the real use of a B747SP..? As in what was it designed for...? I guess you can call it the 747-400 of its day. ULTRA long range. T
69 Superfly : FlagshipAZ: Do you know ILUV767? He doesn't post here much but he is an United Airlines expert. His father works for UA. He mentioned that it was a ex
70 KL642 : My first ever 747 flight was on AA way back in 1972 from JFK-SFO and returning from LAX-JFK. I remember being totally in awe. My first trans Atlantic
71 Superfly : IMissPiedmont & FlagshipAZ: My flight number was 67, May 29th, 2000. The return flight to SFO was flight 60, June 9th, 2000. Does that help?
72 Post contains links and images AV757 : We here at Avianca Colombia inherited from American Airlines a Boeing 747-123, c/n 20103, l/n 65 back in 1985 on short term lease. Since the airplane
73 Oznznut : Just a minor correction irt the NASA shuttle carrier aircraft. The first one, N905NA (mfgr s/n 26107) is indeed a 747-123 ex AA. The second one N911NA
74 Reddevl442 : For anyone looking for the Airport series on DVD, look for the Airport Terminal Pack. It includes all four films in the series on two discs. I got min
75 FlagshipAZ : To Superfly..... Got some answers for ya...per the Bureau of Transportation Statistics website. UA Flt #67 from SFO to HNL 5/29/00 was a 747-238 N160U
76 Post contains images Superfly : FlagshipAZ: WOW! Thanks a lot man! I'll ad that site to my favorites!
77 United Airline : UA had 7 B 747-238s in June 2000. They were retired in 12/2000. Yes they were from QF. A pity that AA doesn't have any B 747-400s. Wish they do.
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